England Template‑class

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This template was considered for deletion on 2006 July 10. The result of the discussion was "keep".

I would vote for this to go, or at least to be changed considerably in content. The topics verge on offensive caricature; they certainly present a very lopsided view of England. If it is to be kept, I think some thought should be given to the purpose the navbox is supposed to serve. (Also Yanks should be debarred from adding anything to it....) 212.219.56.214 14:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC) beckham was born in 1444 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.33.23.186 (talk) 22:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I do not whether I missed anything in the discussion, but I really dislike the new design of this template, which I believe ought to be kept in the same design as all of the other templates for the home nations of the United Kingdom. As well as providing continuity, the design is also a nicer layout and I would prefer that this be restored.

For example:

Home Nations

Scotland, Wales, N Ireland:

v t e Wales articles
List of topics
History	Timeline Bibliography Prehistory Roman Era Anglo-Welsh Wars Early Middle Ages Kingdom of Gwynedd Kingdom of Powys Deheubarth Medieval Welsh law Norman invasion Edwardian conquest Late Middle Ages Statute of Rhuddlan Glyndŵr rebellion Laws in Wales Acts 1535 and 1542 Colonies
Geography	Biodiversity Fauna Flora Climate Geology Islands Lakes Mountains and hills Protected areas National parks AONBs Rivers Wales–England border Waterfalls
Politics	Government Politics Devolution Elections First Minister Government Local government History Cities Mayors Local rulers Nationalism Political parties Republicanism Secretary of State Senedd Unionism Wales Office Law Counsel General Courts Modern Welsh law Police forces British Armed Forces
Economy	Agriculture Banking and finance Coal mining Companies Forestry Housing and construction Power stations Slate quarrying Tourism Transport
Society	Culture Art Castles Education Eisteddfod Gorsedd Cymru Literature in Welsh / in English Media Music Museums Scheduled monuments Sports Theatre Demographics Languages Languages Welsh Welsh English British Sign Language People (list) Actors Welsh Americans Architects Artists Women Inventors Musicians Poets Royalty Scientists Women Writers in Welsh Women Health Healthcare Healthcare service Boards Religion Christianity Anglicanism Catholicism Mormonism Presbyterianism Non-Christian belief systems Bahá'ís Buddhism Hinduism Islam Judaism Druidry Sikhism History Saint David Welsh Methodist revival 1904–1905 Welsh revival Welsh Church Act 1914 Symbols Anthem Flags national flag Prince of Wales's feathers Royal Badge Welsh Dragon
Wales portal

and then, England

Lofty 14:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It seems that the change in style was a result of the AfD discussion as the discussion was very recent I'm a bit reluctant to change the format immediately. I have created a possible alternative in my user space, though, just in case:

User:Daduzi/England template

	Topics on England
History	Anglo-Saxon England · The Blitz · Elizabethan era · Civil War · Jacobean era · Kingdom of England · Norman Conquest · English Reformation · English Renaissance · Tudor period · Union with Scotland · Wars of the Roses
Politics	Government of England · Parliament of England · Monarchy of England · National Flag · List of English flags · Royal Arms
Geography	Regions · Counties · Districts · Gardens · Islands · Places · Towns · Parishes
Economy	Bank of England · London Stock Exchange
Demographics	English English · Famous English people · English people
Culture	Castles · Church of England · Education · English cricket team · The Football Association  · Museums · English rugby team · Innovations & discoveries · Roast beef · St George's Day
Symbols	National Flag | List of English flags | Royal Arms

--Daduzi ^talk 12:39, 22 July 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is already a template for topics on Northern Ireland, based on the designs of the topics of all of the Constituent countries. The template was created for use in the Northern Ireland article, the Northern Ireland portal and the Northern Irish Wikipedians' notice board and no notice was given on the template's talk page about any AfD discussion. --Mal 08:49, 11 August 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How is that an "England topic"? I was not aware that we ate any more beef in England than anywhere else. (I'm a vegetarian by the way, so I don't eat any). I'd have thought something like Tea would be slightly better than roast beef... Mahahahaneapneap 13:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I agree, it seems ridiculous to have that in this template. I propose that it is removed. Bob talk 10:20, 9 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You do know that the French call us rosbifs? (Fairs fair, we call them frogs or froggies) if you would expect a reference to snails & frogs legs when discussing french cuisine (& I would) then I think roast beef sould be mentioned when discussing the English. I like it, tongue in cheek & self deprecating. I'm going to re-instate pending further discussion. MGSpiller 22:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm still not convinced that it is notable enough to be in a topic box, especially when it's such a poor page. As the above commentator suggests, there are a number of English dishes and drinks that are culturally important. I have changed the reference to link to British cuisine. Bob talk 10:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That's a better solution than removal, I didn't look at the pages to be honest. Certainly the one you linked to is a better page. MGSpiller 19:03, 11 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wouldn't the History sections of these templates be better served in chronological order instead of alphabetical like the others? --Kitch ^{(Talk : Contrib)} 19:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Shouldn't this template include English law, not least becuase it is one of the most wide-spread models for legal systems in the developed world? Suggest expanding "Government" section to include "Government and Law" Dick G 03:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have added Heraldry under symbols. I can't see it's controversial, it is a well-sized article, very related and England-specific. If there are any views you can say so here. Jarry1250 (talk) 19:42, 9 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Saint Alban was added to the template earlier today with the summary "in 2006 some Church of England clergy suggested that Alban should replace St George as the patron saint of England." While this is true, I wonder if this potentially leaves it open to include several English/British saints - Cuthbert, Swithun, Aidan, etc, which could become a bit unmanagable. What do other people think? Bob talk 23:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would like to modify the "history" section of the navbox; below is the navbox as it would appear with the changes. is this okay?

v t e England articles
History	Overviews Timeline History of England Education Local government Maritime Military English society Ancient Prehistoric Roman Britain Lloegyr Anglo-Saxon England Heptarchy Middle Ages Kingdom of England Norman Conquest Angevin Empire Wars of the Roses Modern Tudor period Stuart period English Renaissance English Reformation Elizabethan era Jacobean era Civil War Union with Scotland Georgian era Regency era Victorian era Edwardian era The Blitz Contemporary Postwar Britain (1945–1979) Political history of the United Kingdom (1979–present) Social history of the United Kingdom (1979–present) Related House of Plantagenet House of Lancaster House of York
Geography	Counties Districts Gardens Islands Parishes Places Regions Towns
Politics	Economy Middle Ages Elizabethan government Independence Monarchy Parliament
Culture	Afternoon tea Anglophilia Art Castles Country clothing Cuisine Cultural icons Demographics Education Folklore Fête Landscape garden Identity Innovations and discoveries English language in England Middle England Museums People list Religion Church of England Science education Sunday Roast Sport Cricket national team Football The Football Association national team Rugby league Rugby Football League national team Rugby union Rugby Football Union national team Wimbledon Symbols Anthem Coat of arms Flags national flag Heraldry Oak tree Royal standards Royal supporters Saint George Saint George's Day Tudor rose
Outline Category Portal

thanks. ---Sm8900 (talk) 🌍 01:00, 19 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]