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Many holiday pages are lacking links to the primary source texts for those holidays. For example 4th of July does not have a link to the declaration of independence on wikisource. Many other cases. This could be ameliorated by reminding editors in the infobox to include it with the {wikisource} template. For example:

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Wikisource has original text related to this article:

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So the decision to have a standardized yet arbitrary coloring based on the holiday type dates to 2006 because it seems editors were adding custom colors to every holiday infobox. I don't think we should continue this practice.

• The logic is quite limited in scope. It requires incredibly specific values that miss a lot of valid uses. For example, Juneteenth has no coloring because the value is "Federal", when it should get light purple I guess since it's a national American holiday.
• The selection of categories is not so universal either. We have colors for the world's major religions, and what do the rest get? Pagan? Ethnic? Shintoism, which is only local to Japan, gets a special color, but the international Baháʼí Faith with nearly 5 million adherents does not? And only some of the East Asian religions have their own colors, not all.
• The secular color doesn't make a lot of sense, given that most commercial, cultural, national, etc., holidays are secular in nature, too.
• This is a way to disseminate information that only editors (or absolute diehard readers) will understand. Readers will need to visit a lot of holiday articles before they can come to the conclusion that yellow represents a commercial holiday, lavender represents a Christian one, etc.
• Finally, this consensus is just really old, established at a time when apparently 90% of infoboxes have a defined set of colors. This is not the case anymore; color is not used at all in major infoboxes, such as Person and Film, and to a much lesser degree in infoboxes that still use custom shading.

I don't think colors should be used in this infobox anymore. Thrakkx (talk) 20:43, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many of the holidays are religious. In line with Template:Infobox deity/doc, it easier to distinguish festivals with colours. Reverted the WP:BOLD move and restored long term consensus for colours. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 16:18, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone please tell me why the date for National Memorial Service for War Dead appears linked, while Independence Day (United States) does not?

The former is a violation of MOS:OVERLINK, but I can't figure out how to unlink the date.

Thanks! 1980fast (talk) 00:58, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This template takes a duration parameter, but never displays anything because of it. It looks like this used to be used for some categorization that no longer exists. Should we remove this parameter? Display it in the infobox? Something else?LittlePuppers (talk) 22:42, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]