|This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Sociology template.
|WikiProject Sociology||(Rated Template-class)|
I just did a major cleanup of the template. It really got bloated with miscellanea over time, which made it practically useless as a guide to exploring the discipline. Some of the recent changes were good--major subjects were previously missing--but the additions were too many and too disorganized. If you compare the state of the template from right before yesterday's edits  with how it looked about a year ago (see below on the right), it is clear that the more minimal version makes for a much better navigation template. This is because specialists in sociology are unlikely to use this template for much--they already know the layout of the field, and can go directly to the specific topics that concern them. On the other hand, an interested reader who is not versed in the discipline could have used the more minimal version of the template to survey the major areas of the discipline and get a summary of its major contributions. While the newer version was far more comprehensive, it was unclear that anyone would have made use of that fact. My guess is that, while still not useful to specialists, it would have been too foreboding and disorganized to be useful for non-specialists. Had non-specialists attempted using it, however, it would have quickly taken them to some topics that are quite esoteric, as well as to others that have no direct connection to sociology at all. I think they would have quickly given up on using this template altogether.
So, my goal in the cleanup was two-fold: first, I wanted to keep the most useful updates from the newer version of the template. These were key topics such as class and mobility that were missing from the older template. But second, I wanted to return the template to its far more usable (and aesthetically appealing) slimmer format. In the process, I (by necessity) made a number calls about what to keep and what to leave out that fell into a gray area. If you think I kept out anything that could qualify as a key sociological subject, then please put it back in. But please, keep in mind that only an a well-organized and minimal template is useful! Let's work together to keep it from being bloated again.
DarwinPeacock (talk) 03:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
|Portal · History|
|Fields and subfields|
|Categories and lists|
I'd like to update this template to use the standard ((Sidebar with heading backgrounds)) template for formatting. It should come out looking almost identical, but with cleaner markup "under the hood". Any objections/suggestions? Thanks. Quiddity (talk) 20:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Sociology of: childhood · culture
|Categories and lists|
Sociology fr:Modèle:Branches de la sociologie id:Templat:Sosiologi pt:Predefinição:Sociologia
The sidebar, I believe, has been improved significantly since this was last discussed. A number of excellent pages previously missing from the sociology portal let alone the sidebar (Islamic sociology, for example) have now been added, as well as some central terms such as structure or agency and socialisation (I'm not sure we can fit any more than that). The template is already pretty long/wide, however, so please don't enlarge the dimensions any further! The problem is therefore picking what to omit and replace. Please don't replace a significant topic with a lesser one just because you're interested in it!--Tomsega (talk) 00:22, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Does the Image have to be an Network Diagram? SNA is just one part of sociology, albeit recent and rising it is very unfair towards all the other approaches - historically and contemporary - to set an SNA-diagram as an idol for sociology. The Image at  is far better, as the message it depicts goes back to the ethymology of sociology the latin word:  which is the common divisor of sociology in all its flavors. --Axel Kittenberger (talk) 09:04, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
I added this to the bottom of the topics. Get back to me or state your case here if you think I'm being too bold. Bearian (talk) 21:27, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
This nav bar gets used on a whole lot of pages, so it has to be minimal and slim. This means that (a) when new links are added, attention needs to be paid to the formatting, so that the nav bar stays at roughly the same width as before; (b) there should only be links to topics which a user would be unable to locate by clicking other logically related links from the nav bar; and (c) the links should only be to major areas, not specific topics of inquiry, because there are too many topics of inquiry to fit all here.
So, for example, there doesn't need to be a link to "inequality" because the "social class", "mobility" and "stratification" links already cover much of the same area; the reader should be able to easily navigate to the inequality article through one of these. Similarly, there doesn't need to be a "feminist sociology" link because the "sociology of gender" article prominently discusses the topic in its first section, and a reader could easily locate the feminist sociology article via this link.
And there are simply too many topics of investigation to include any but the biggest ones in the list. (Unless we add a collapsing section for them, which may work well though I think it may be a pain to manage.) - Darwin/Peacock [Talk] 23:19, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
I've just seen this template at Power (social and political) and wondered if a "Concepts" section (that included Power) would be worthwhile/possible..? The comment at the start of the code pleads for the template to be kept succinct, so perhaps not; on the other hand, the template could be converted into a ((Sidebar with collapsible lists))..? Sardanaphalus (talk) 11:28, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Is historical sociology not a subfield, rather than a method?
It's method would be "historical analysis", etc.
I think this should be moved into subfields as historical sociology is a particular flavour of sociology that has underpinning methods to undertake it. Jamzze (talk) 11:07, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
The people section of this template offers a great launchpad for readers to see a top-level view of key people within sociology.
However, I think it currently offers limited engagement with figures outside of western fields as well as having an unbalanced focus on men.
I wanted to suggest adding sub-headings within the 'People' section around organising key figures under their main location (e.g. European, North American, etc.). This will help highlight to readers the current focus of the key people and create room to build representation from further areas of the world. Jamzze (talk) 07:03, 22 June 2021 (UTC)