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SD template itself

Add SD to Infobox templates

Create a template for list pages — which then adds a SD

Start RfC re ((List page)) to set SD via ((List page short description)) ?

Scripts for SD admin

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Post to Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)

Article for Deletion is too aggressive

The standard AFD banner attached to the article starts something like this (faked so the bot does not get excited):

 
This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy.
Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for deletion page.
Feel free to improve the article, but the article must not be blanked, and this notice must not be removed, ...

The red bar and the headline This article is being considered for deletion... implies that the default action and the motivation for the banner is just to delete the article.

While established editors may know what the AFD process is trying to do and point out the word considered, the new editor can easily see that their shiny new article has had a "Not worthy! Delete it!" message stuck on it.

We should change the AFD template to be less aggressive.

We could even change the "article for deletion" branding to be something like "article needing improvement" - where the implied default is that the article will be improved.

Expect push-back along lines of "Editors need to get over it", "If they don't like it, they can always leave".

Talk pages

Richer talk pages. Allowing replies to reference a specific post etc.

Pending changes would probably kill TalkHelper

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