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Well that is a bit of a surprise. As under User:SimonTrew I was blocked several years ago, for making legal threats. I wasn't making any legal threats even at that time, but pointing out that since I was using my real name ("Simon Trew") some remarks made to me (not by User:Tavix who has blocked me now) were personal attacks, not just on Wikipedia but in real life. My name is not unique, but very rare and it is unique in Hungary, I am the only Simon Trew in Hungary, as "Trew" is not a surname here. So very easily anyone could find out who i was and where I lived, and I was getting threats like that, so I switched to IP editing. As it happens, my IP address is very stable (if you click through the lookup it says "Probably static", and I imagine it is, since I don't even need a password on my modem so it's not doing a DHCP request to connect). I have not pretended to be anyone other than me, but I was getting personal attacks and threats on the User:SimonTrew account and for some time just abandoned WIkipedia. I do occasionally edit from my mobile phone, while it is in the house it connects to my WiFi and those will be under the same IP address, but I don't edit much from it. Were I trying to evade a ban I could easily switch to using its 4G internet connection – for a while. My point is that I have not been going around switching IP addresses to evade a ban. The ban was unjust in the first place. The thing I dislike with these blocks is no valid reason is really given. I'm technically evading a block – so what? Have I made the Wikipedia better or worse? Look through my edits – yes I make slips and am hasty, but all have been made in good faith. Look at Draft:SIC (journal), I said it would take me a few days to translate that in bits and pieces, and it has done, but once I move that over I'll just copy-paste it, so the long edit history is for my benefit while drafting. Look at Template talk:Requested move, where I have found a serious bug in Module:Requested move. That conversation, like many others, I was firm I don't always say pretty please etc, but conducted in good faith by good editors on all sides, nobody was "blaming" anyone. Over the last few days I have had personal attacks from User:Redrafting and then that person using an IP address. I do not know why they picked on me, since I never saw that user at any page I ever visited, but they kept mucking arouond with the this page. I know technically I don't "own" this page but it's fairly well established what one can and cannot do at others' talk pages. Even if I made a mistake four or five years ago, an "indefinite" ban was way too harsh. It is very difficult – practically impossible – to appeal it. If you deny the unblock, bang goes any form of appeal from me, so basically I am damned in eternity. That is not how Wikipedia "the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit", is supposed to work. I appreciate tht is not carte blanche to edit it badly – and leaving aside slips I do with every edit try to make it better – but as I said five years ago, what it means nowadays in practice is "the encyclopaedia that some people can edit". And that's a pity. I live in Hungary, so I have a lot better knowledge of many Hungarian topics than other editors. I don't edit Hungarian articles much, but often they are written by Hungarians and the wording is not very natural. So I have a special privilege – and obligation – to inform about language differences and so on, as I've done at the discussion about titles with diacritics, Talk:Sobibór_(village)#Requested_move_30_September_2021, again a discussion carried out with respect by all editors contributing to it, as it should be: I ssaid so there, it is a pleasure to see it. Because I speak several languages and am an "immigrant" it also informs me, indirectly, about how to keep WP:NPOV. Because I hear three or four languages daily, I'm perhaps more attuned to common mistakes or where the English will confuse someone who has English as a second or third language, and where people make common errors in trying to speak English. I don't insult them for it, I am very proud that people want to learn my first language, and it makes them proud that I am trying to learn Hungarian. It's mutual respect. As Wikipedia should be. Oh I see User:Tamzin has struck anything I wrote there. To be fair that user has not actually deleted it, only struck it. That user is wrong that I am a sockpuppet. I moved to an IP address because of personal attacks. I do try to make it reasonably clear, in subtle ways, I am the same editor – indeed if I didn't you wouldn't have found me. I cannot be a sockpuppet of myself. The only reason I don't use my real name, which I use quite happily in real life without any problems, is that I get personal attacks on Wikipedia when I do. That's Wikipedia's problem, not mine. It was perhaps naive to think I could use my real name here, but it is my name, and apart from Simon Trew a military historian at Sandhurst, who has published many books (and is mentioned at our article 59th_(Staffordshire)_Infantry_Division]], but not referenced there), I am very identifiable just from my name. I think it is reasonable then that I don't use my real name. Most users don't. I'm the opposite of a sockpuppet in that I make it as clear as possible who I am while trying not to get personal attacks as I did this week from User:Redrafting. This has got a bit out of control now: that new user spent most of his edits in his sandbox, as he should, then for some reason unknown started to attack me. I have no idea why, he said he reverted a page, I checked every history etc and he hadn't, eventually I tracked it down but he had not reverted it, it was a one-word change in an article for grammar or something; sometimes I hit "Random article" and just see what's there and if there are minor typos etc just fix them. It was so trivial were I a registered user I would have marked as minor edit. I shouldn't be the fall guy of his well-intentioned but misguided behaviour. I did my best to point him in the right direction, politely but firmly, as any good Wikipedian would. To come clean, I did create another account, I can't even remember the user name, Spinach2021 or something (Spinach is the name of my toy monkey, named very briefly in the nigel molesworth books) but have never used it; I created it specifically not because I wanted to sockpuppet but because I was getting personal attacks from User:Redrafting and then after he "resigned" from his IP he started to use. See this message at Redrafting's talk page, I really don’t hate my username so changing it is out of the question. Long ago, I changed my username a lot and at the end result, I couldn’t remember my username since I changed it 8 times. I do not want to deal with this problem on a new, fresh account.
. The Redrafting account was created on 29 September this year: perhaps this is trivial but note the bad grammar, no knowledge of MOS:STRAIGHT and so on, saying "8" instead of "eight" (MOS:SPELL09) and so on. This user has stated quite clearly he wanted a new account, has changed it eight times. I've never changed my username, I did create a new account the other day specifically to avoid his personal attacks on me, but I don't think I ever used it, but mention it here as coming with clean hands. I don't think I have ever edited on that account, I don't know the password for it, I created it because I was so angry with the personal attacks I was getting at my talk page. Look through the history of this page: [1] where I had blanked the page so his IP was not known to all and sundry, here where I restored a message from Redrafting that he deleted
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I have not read everything here, but if you want the ban and block removed, you must use WP:UTRS under your account name to make a statement for the community to consider in a discussion, which will be transferred to WP:AN for discussion. No administrator may unilaterally lift the block. 331dot (talk) 08:45, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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here is where User:Redrafting restored my blanked page. To be clear: I frequently blank my talk page as many other editors do as I get talkback cruft etc and it is routine to delete those after responding. That is all there was on the talk page except Redrafting's personal abuse, and his action on this edit was to revert my talk page to put all the talkbacks and his own comments back again. I could have been less subtle and just deleted his personal attacks on me, leaving the talkbacks, I deliberately to save him shame (I'm confident that user is male, and dislike singular they). This whole furore really is the fallout of his ban. I was happily drafting Draft:SIC (journal) which arose from an RfD about SIC, SiC, sic and so on. So because I am not bad at French, I started translating the article from French (which does have the ((translated page))
tag on it, at the bottom, and had from the first draft). I would have been doing a lot quicker with it had I not had the bollox from Redrafting/23.28.64.124. When you get that user adding it back, with the ES Do not delete messages on your talk page.
, patently that well-intentioned but misguided user has lost the plot somewhere. No, I can't or shouldn't delete messages on other's talk pages, I am perfectly entitled to do so on mine, and I bet all of you regularly clean out your talk pages one way or another, whether it's archivnig them or blanking them or whatever. The user completely misunderstood WP:REMOVE that we shouldn't delete messages from other's' talk pages. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 05:04, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
In the diff above I want to tell you that your message was deleted because it was rude. Anyway, I will tell you the edit that looks like a test. Please write a message nicely.
. I replied, I don't write test edits. I make mistakes but it is not a test edit. Can you please tell me which edit it is. This went on for a few days with him not telling me which edit he believed was a test – ultimately he did say,it's not on either User talk:Redrafting or User talk:23.28.64.124 now, so I'll have to trace the history, but several times I asked politely but firmly not to delete or restore things at my talk page. I have at all times been polite, but firm. I have not accused the editor of anything personal, I have stated matter-of-fact where his actions are out of line with policies or guidelines and pointed him to them. I think as experienced editors it is our duty to do so. What I do not expect is to be banned because of another's bad behaviour.
What you can do is lift the indefinite ban on User:SimonTrew. It's been five years or six since I was banned on that name, surely that is enough. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 05:11, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
I swore never to be anonymous in Wikipedia nor other websites, as being anonymous can make lots of confusion, I do not wish to cause any suspicion. People who are Anonymous are known as suspicious people who may cause trouble. In Wikipedia, using IP address is similar to being anonymous since you didn’t verify yourself. This is in my perspective and I’m not trying to encourage people to create a account.In section "Redrafting is not anonymous", I dunno if I can do a section link from a permalink. Immediately below, "Redrafting will never change his username": OK, but edit on an IP address instead, and elsewhere say you have had eight usernames? All the while I kept good faith, but come on, that is pushing it. He personally attacked me exactly because I was the first IP he had seen, I dealt with it. Are you surprised I do not have an account when I get this abuse from a registered editor? Who then goes on to edit anonymously against exactly what he stated at his user page? Who then, which is pure WP:VANDALISM, removes his (no, sorry, the anonymous IP that he said he won't use) comments from my talk page, and when I restore them, removes them again? I told him that Wikipedia keeps a history of every edit, he didn't seem to understand that. I make small edits, and together with another editor we put together the essay WP:OWNFEET and his counter-argument to that, both in good faith (he contributed the picture to my essay) and we both contributed to each other's. For me to be accused of vandalism, being rude, by an editor only registered sixteen days ago, is pushing it. I took that as a personal attack, which it was, and responded politely but firmly. Show me any edit I have made is vandalism. I make typos and mistakes, other editors may disagree, that is WP:BRD. I have never been a vandal here, nor in real life. I don't swear even in real life. I had parents who would wash my mouth out with soap and water if I said a "dirty word". 85.67.32.244 (talk) 05:36, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
There were two Simon Trews in the UK, the first an eminent military historian at Sandhurst, mentioned in many military articles, such as Operation Goodwood#Casualties. As far as I know, he and I were the only two Simon Trews in the UK: I added a lot about Hungarian military history and someone asked me "you're not the Simon Trew are you", of course I replied that I wasn't but that I know how you mean. He is patently notable, sometimes rarely he is on telly on military programmes. I phoned him once, got his secretary, I said "Hello I am Simon Trew, may I speak to Simon Trew please" and she had a double-take :) but that was just to confirm he was who we have at articles, he has published many books in his name, but keeps a low profile, so I was going to do a bio at Simon Trew but really found nothing beyond his published works, which are many. In Hungary, I am the only Simon Trew and I know that as a fact, having had to go through various paperwork to establish my immigrant status. (With Hungarian names I am "Trew Simon", pronounced "Trev Shimon", but I am not Trevor and Simon either.) This whole farrago is because that well-meaning but misguided editor has made my life a misery for a week. I've given you plenty of evidence. I have been using this IP since about June last year, when I moved here to Törökszentmiklós, (which User:Eubot did not get around to making Toeroekszentmiklos, I presume you know the debate about those well-intentioned but misguided mass creation of redirects, assuming every "ö" was a germanic umlaut – this is why I got banned by User:Thryduulf I think for mass listing them at RfD, we had with User:Tavix a discussion about whether we needed a speedy delete criterion for them, and I actually opposed that, said we can handle it: I was wrong, as they're still cropping up now every week or so at RfD).
I'm pretty sure my IP is a static IP and so are the WHOIS lookups etc. (They say "Likely static IP"). The modem does not go through DHCP, I can't be entirely sure, neither can the lookups, but it is very likely that my ISP has assigned me a static IP address. I do not think I can be accused of sockpuppetry, since every edit I have made (except for a couple of very minor edits from my mobile phone when I have been passing the time on the train: at home it connects to my WiFi) has been on this address, as WP:ANON says, IPs are not very anonymous. I would happily edit under User:SimonTrew were it not for the stupid ban five years ago, which I remind you says "indefinite", not "infinite". Were I want to be a sockpuppet, I could just use my mobile phone and get a new IP address every time. That is exactly what I don't do. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 05:52, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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with the permalink version numbers for version and insertversion. I could have just copied and pasted it over mainspace SIC (journal) which we discussed at RfD, well not the journal/review (SIC (review) would probably be better but not perfect). Now without any say-so you have deleted my hard work translating a French article, on the basis I am banned. I'm appealing that ban, so restore it. It is evidence of my good faith. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 06:53, 16 October 2021 (UTC)And all my improvements to Wikipedia are being deleted. OK, then, delete my stuff off of WikiMedia comons. I stated this at the 2015 argument, you cannot have it both ways. I release my stuff by CC-SA-3.0. Thet explicitly says I own it, this was the whole business back in 2015 when I was banned for making legal threats. Check the licence. I'm licencing Wikipedia, or the Wikmedia Foundation or whatnot, to use my material, I still have ownership of that material. This is why I got banned for legal threats, for saying exactly what the Wikimedia licence says. I am licensing Wikipedia to use my material, the Wikipedia Foundation does not own it, Jimmy Wales does not own it and has said so explicitly. My original work may come under WP:OR and there's the crux, to make Wikipedia better we must write some words about something. We reference it from WP:RS but we must paraphrase it to make it good English in a running sentence. It's ridiculous to assume that I am not doing the same at the deleted draft for Draft:SIC (journal), it is very much in infancy and that is why it is in draft. Deleting it made Wikipedia worse. My intent was once I had it even vaguely in English raher than French, to move it over Sic (journal) in mainspace. That was not some kind of subversion of WP:AFC, there was a discussion at WP:RFD about "Sic", "SIC", "Sic" etc and I thought WP:BOLD, I'll translate it from FR:WP. The translation right now is shit, which is why I didn't move it into mainspace but kept it in draft. You were wrong to delete, User:Tazmin (a non-admin) was wrong to strike out every contribution, this is "Beat Simon Trew to death day" or what? I use an IP because I got personal attacks at User:Simon Trew, now in the last week I am getting personal attacks from banned User:Redrafting. I have to take the fallout of his nonsense? THat is pure hypocrisy. If you don't like me, say so. Check my edit history, I have done nothing wrong. I encouraged, welcomed, Redrafting into our community. User:Tavix didn't. User:Tamzin didn't. User:Thryduulf didn't. I did. And what is the result? I get banned for his bad behaviour. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 08:02, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
WP:G5 This applies to pages created by banned or blocked users in violation of their ban or block
. Did you read it? I am editing under IP because I had personal attacks from User:Redrafting. I did not edit and never have in violation of the ban or block. The block was for making legal threats, unjust as it happens but somehow I said Wikipedia is ultimately responsible for its actions, and someone on the legal team didn't like it. (It is true, in British law the publisher is resonsible, that is why we have libel tourism). I made a plain point that the Wikimedia Foundation is not above the law, and for some weird reason got banned for it, and when I appealed, i got totally cut off. That is what happens, when you suggest in any way the Wikimedia Foundation is doing an unlawful act in some jurisdiction you get banned. Guilty until proven innocent, and deleting or scrubbing my text – which I can't restore – is just a witch hunt. Wikipedia, the encylopaedia that a few people can edit. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 08:24, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
Review it again. I had personal attacks all last week that prevented me from finishing translating Draft:SIC (journal). I have acted all the while in good faith. Now I am being punished for another editor's bad behaviour. That is not fair. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 08:55, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
created by banned or blocked users in violation of their ban or block. How could I? IP editors cannot create pages. What I have done, is to use my IP address instead of my account, to avoid getting personal attacks from User:Redrafting. That iis not in violation of any WP policy and I am entitled to protect myself againt what I saw as personal threats. They probably weren't, that user has been banned indefintely, but I am the fall guy for his bad behaviour. That's not fair. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 09:15, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
I am very angry now. Other editrices are deleting anything I added, without thought. THat makes the wikipedia worse. Try banning them. I didn't realise that simply by pretty much stating i was User:SimonTrew I would have t his hassle. I use IP because I have had over the last week personal attacks from User:Redrafting later iater as IP ed, and I said so in my nomination. To find my evidence being deleted is just not right, not fair, well I will say in my cockney, a pile of bollocks. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 09:15, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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