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PamD 09:45, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
Re your post at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Companies#Change_name_of_Wikipedia_page_from_Big_Six_(law_firms)_to_Top_Tier_(law_firms): Please see WP:Requested moves for how to suggest a page move. Thanks. PamD 09:46, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi user:AustralianLawMan. Do you mind if we discuss your proposed changes? I think you made some good points in your edits of 18 Apr 2021, and your preferred page may indeed be better. However, perhaps your edit summary "Restored version due to unverified user removing previous version[a] without appropriate [b] reason",[c] [emphasis added] when reverting my restoration is a little unfair: After all, I wrote several paragraphs on my reasoning, and gave an extensive edit summary. The fact that I am an IP user is neither here-nor-there. Please take it to the talk page and / or request a 3O. I do not think I have ever given anyone on WP a reason to think that I would not positively engage in discussions or consensus building on articles, even if I am "an unverified user". Look forward to hearing from you on the Talk page. Thanks. 49.177.64.138 (talk) 03:55, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Notes
Hello,
Your edits look very similar to those of another Wikipedia user, User:AustralianLegalRankings. Please be aware that the use of multiple accounts on Wikipedia is generally prohibited, please see this page for more information. It's important that you are clearly accountable for your edits under one username. If you do in fact operate the account AustralianLegalRankings, please ensure that from now on you only edit on one of these two accounts. If I have made a mistake, feel free to let me know. But please be aware that if you continue to operate multiple accounts, you will risk being blocked from Wikipedia.
Local Variable (talk) 15:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello
We are not the same user. I admit that I had used their name for inspiration though lol (I am a woman so it would be a bit hard to be the same person!). The edits are similar because I suspect we both work in the legal industry and both hold the mainstream view of the division of the Australian legal market. There was another user that did not remove the updates made by me and ALR, so that is two independent people. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by AustralianLegalRankings (talk • contribs)
Hello again,
Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for your attempts at improving articles.
I noticed you've edited the articles of several law firms describing them as 'top tier' firms. Even if sourced, this term looks like a 'peacock term'. I think it is inappropriate in the lead sentence of the article. Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view, which requires - as far as possible - articles be written with an unbiased tone. Describing a firm as 'top tier' seems to me to violate this principle, even if it is sourced, since it suggests Wikipedia considers the firm to be better than others. It may be possible to include this elsewhere in the article, perhaps phrased a bit more objectively.
In the meantime, I'm going to go ahead and revert those changes.
Thanks
Local Variable (talk) 16:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello
The term top tier is used to indicate the position in the market (and types of clients) which those firms operate. The term is not used as a peacock term; the term indicates the reflects of the Australian market. The term is not used in the media and industry as a peacock term, rather in accordance to the said division of the legal market. It is a term widespread by various and independent sources - from recruitment websites to newspapers to blogs. Firms also describe themselves as mid tier, which does not bring the implication of a lesser firm but instead a firm with mid level specialisation and clients. I think the change should be reverted. Thanks
I have reverted the change. I don’t think it should be changed again unless sufficient reason is provided. Hate to play the majority card, but two other people than I have a similar view. I also note that your change has not added recent citations (which was why the page should be changed and was changed in the first place, presumably).
I should also mention the name of the article itself, the Big Six, by the logic of the user would be a peacock term. I don’t think the user’s view against top tier is sound.
UPDATE: Local Variable removed “top tier” from numerous law firms but retained it on rival law firm Clayton Utz. Potential manipulation to boost Clayton Utz at the expense of other firms based on flawed claim of peacock term. User should be warned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AustralianLegalRankings (talk • contribs)
((unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~))
. GeneralNotability (talk) 23:19, 14 May 2021 (UTC)