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Archive 1 (December 2011 – )

I've set up an archive for you. Archiving is as simple as cutting an item from your talk page, and pasting it into the archive sub page. Let me know if you have any trouble with this. Schwede66 17:37, 5 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Many thanks - I will use the archive for completed talk that I wish to retain. Bridgetfox (talk) 19:47, 6 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

On 8 February 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article William Orange, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the New Zealand Anglican clergyman William Orange amassed a library of 15,000 titles during his life? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Orange.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:04, 8 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you so much for reinstating the only interesting part of the Alexander Montagu article. I shall back you up if needs be. Keep up your great editing. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 01:00, 21 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you! 80.87.25.164 (talk) 19:14, 21 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yawn. Tis kicking off again :( Gareth E Kegg (talk) 16:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

In recognition of all the work you’ve done lately! 66.87.0.36 (talk) 18:58, 1 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi. I've suggested some very minor content additions to the Viscount Weymouth article, which are included on the article discussion page [1]. Could you give me feedback as to whether my suggestions are ok? Thanks Vjdigital (talk) 14:50, 17 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please make sure to include an edit summary. Please provide one before saving your changes to an article, as the summaries are quite helpful to people browsing an article's history. Thanks! asnac (talk) 07:18, 6 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I came across an edit you did to the article Francis Bacon. It is against guidance to place external links into the article text see WP:ELPOINTS in Wikipedia:external links. I also noticed that you made a similar edit to Morrice James, Baron St Brides, so please go through you edits and revet out any edit that has placed an external link in the body of an article. If you think the fact needs supporting with an external link then please add it as a standard citation.

Also Darryl Lund's website The Peerage.com (the one you cited) is not a reliable source (it is self-published by an amateur). However he usually cites reliable sources, so you can use his site and make the citation more reliable, by citing the source he cites (See WP:SAYWEHERYOUREADIT) eg in the case of you addition to "Francis Bacon, 1st Viscount St. Alban" becomes:

• Francis Bacon, 1st Viscount St. Alban<ref>((cite web |last=Lundy |first=Darryl |url=http://www.thepeerage.com/p12827.htm#i128270 |title=Francis Bacon, 1st and last Viscount Saint Alban |publisher=[http://www.thepeerage.com thepeerage.com])) cites: ((cite book|editor-first=George Edward |editor-last=Cokayne |title=The Complete Baronetage, (5 volumes)|origyear=c. 1900|edition=reprint |location=Gloucester, U.K.|publisher=Alan Sutton Publishing |year=1983 |volume=I | page=1)) </ref></nowiki>
• Francis Bacon, 1st Viscount St. Alban<ref>Lundy, Darryl. "Francis Bacon, 1st and last Viscount Saint Alban". thepeerage.com. ((cite web)): External link in |publisher= (help) cites: Cokayne, George Edward, ed. (1983) [c. 1900]. The Complete Baronetage, (5 volumes). Vol. I (reprint ed.). Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing. p. 1.</ref>

-- PBS (talk) 15:55, 24 August 2012 (UTC) Thanks for the tip, I'll try to follow that in future. Bridgetfox (talk) 21:35, 26 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why do you cite Tatler so frequently? It appears that you used to work for them. If that's true, that may create a problem - see WP:SPAMLINKS.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:49, 30 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Anonymous! No, I have never worked for Tatler. Tatler have recently updated their profiles, leading to an opportunity to update related Wikipedia articles, that's all. Bridgetfox (talk) 23:00, 30 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I have reverted your edit for Kirkwhelpington. The reference for that paragraph about the market town is quite clear that the place never became a market town so it cannot be called a 'former' market town. The correct term is abortive. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:20, 23 February 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Twiceupontime! I accept your point but do feel that there should be more appropriate term than abortive in this context. One talks of abortive attempts but not abortive towns. I will strive to think of a better term. Bridgetfox (talk) 13:51, 23 February 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you so much for finding that! I had no idea about that page! WhisperToMe (talk) 06:16, 17 July 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi. You added "Pondfield House on Clifton Gardens was formerly a Metropolitan Police section house". I'm just wondering what's notable about police section houses. Should we be having articles on all police section houses, hospital nurses' homes, etc, etc? Is there any citation or anything else noteworthy about Pondfield House? Regards, Bjenks (talk) 03:13, 8 May 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

:Hello, thanks for the comment. I find it an interesting part of the changing nature of Little Venice and the back history of its buildings. I'm fascinated to trace the changing use of institutional buildings over time but of course it is up to others whether they agree or not. Bridgetfox (talk) 13:20, 9 May 2018 (UTC) BridgetReply[reply]

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Hello Bridget Fox,

Thanks for adding the heading for Estates in the Parton page. Can I just say that Hensol House is at Mossdale in Balmaghie on the other side of Loch Ken, not at Parton. Sir Nigel and Lady Henderson have an entry in Balmaghie (churchyard). Jamie Stuart 20:05, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Jamie I will correct that. Bridget Bridgetfox (talk) 01:23, 10 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi for your information, I've opened a discussion at Talk:Middelgrundsfortet#Requested move 26 August 2019 to move Middelgrundsfortet to new title Ungdomsøen. Bogger (talk) 15:54, 26 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Thank you! I love history (my degree subject) and sharing the nuggets I find.

Hi Bridgetfox, thanks for your efforts to improve this article. However, it's already tagged as needing more citations. Your uncited additions are ... not making the situation any better. I'd be very grateful if you could provide some sources, both for your new material and indeed for the surrounding materials. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:27, 18 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you! Noted and I will do on my next Wikipedia spree.

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Dear Bridgetfox. Thank you so very much for your very interesting contribution to the article Honora Burke regarding the money she inherited from her father. I wonder whether you should not have been more explicit. I have trouble to understand.

The timeline of the events regarding that inheritance is:

1. 1687 Her father died and she inherited,
2. 1689 She married Sarsfield,
3. 1691 Sarsfield was forfeited,
4. 1693 Sarsfield was slain in the Battle of Landen,
5. 1695 She married Berwick,
6. 1696 Richard Coote petitioned to take over the King's claim.

What I do not understand is how Coote could hope to recover the money. She probably got that money in 1687 in cash. In 1689 the money, if she had not spent it, became property of her husband (I think such was the law at the time). Sarsfield was forfeited. Sarsfield went to France, was killed in a battle in 1693, probably died pennyless. She married Berwick. Did Coote ask Berwick for the money? Why would Berwick pay? Did Berwick still own property in England and he could menace confiscation?

You probably saw that I replaced your cite web with a reference to the printed book. I thought that was preferable in Wikipedia. I hope you agree. With many thanks, Johannes Schade (talk) 10:32, 29 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

On the explanation, it could use some more context I guess if people are unfamiliar with the English Civil War context. The crown took the money from Honora Burke because of her guilt by association with her husband, Sarsfield. The fact that Richard Coote asked for the money to be awarded to him was nothing to do with Honora Burke. Coote wanted compensation for his losses during the Irish rebellion. The Crown took money from rebels and gave it to loyalists. I am disappointed that you changed the reference. It makes it harder for people to check the original documents and read the context. The British History Online project is designed to make it easier for people to access these historic documents: your change has made that harder.

Dear Bridgetfox. On your protestation I brought back your reference to the website. I thought that books should be preferred over websites, but I lack sufficient Wikipedia experience to be able to be sure. Besides, I also left the book reference. Comparing the two references, I find that I reach the relevant passage faster in the book since the click opens directly the concerned page, whereas on the website one has to page down repeatedly to find it. Perhaps try it yourself. The book has survived 100 years. Will the website live that long? I do not believe the king or Colonel Richard Coote ever recovered the money. That was the point of my dates. I suppose these £3,500 were for her dowry, but that is just a guess and we cannot write this without proof. Best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 12:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello again, I have not researched whether Richard Coote received the money as he is not part of Honora's story. The situation is a bit like a modern Government fining an offender and then using those funds to compensate a victim of a different crime. The money was NOT for Honora's dowry, it was her inheritance from her family. In England at the time, noble women and gentlewomen could inherit and retain estates of land and property in their own right with the Crown's consent although common women had no property rights until the Married Women's Property Act in the 19th century. It's a fascinating but complicated topic: for Honora's bit of it, the relevant element is that she lost her inheritance because of her husband's treason.

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Done!

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Thank you again for your updates to Places of worship in Malvern, Worcestershire. It's one of the many articles about the Malverns that I wrote or greatly expanded over the years. I'm impressed by your industrious edits to an eclectic mix of UK articles. I'm retired and now also largely retired from Wikipedia. Do feel free to update on-the-fly any of the articles in Category:Malvern, Worcestershire, it would be much appreciated. Perhaps you would like to put them on your watchlist. Best, Chris. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:19, 24 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi User:Bridgetfox,

Can I ask about the edits to this article assigning land at Eccles on Sea to the Bacon family? The citation says that Eccles is in the Hundred of Shropham. Hundreds of Norfolk locates Shropham in the south of Norfolk, well away from Eccles-on-Sea.

However, in Shropham is a parish called Eccles. I doubt that there was ever very much to this Eccles, and only the church and Eccles Road railway station get a mention on Wikipedia now. Eccles Hall is marked on old maps. Perhaps that may have been held by Edmund Bacon.

Blomefield names other Bacon property in Garboldisham, Larling and Raveningham. These are all close to Eccles in Shropham and seven miles east of Thetford where Edmund Bacon was MP. Blomefield specifically states of this Eccles - '... it was always distinguished from Eccles by the Sea.'.

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Hi, I'm not sure if you've noticed that we already have an article, Church of Our Lady of Grace & St Edward, Chiswick, for this church, along with articles for four other churches in the area. There are over 75 articles within the family of the top-level article on Chiswick, so it's not at all obvious that we should be adding more detail to the top-level article really: it is only a brief summary of the most important facts, promoted from the subsidiary articles to the top level to provide a brief overview. Additional facts are welcome in the subsidiary articles, but are out of place (undue weight on one sub-sub-topic, additional details of one church within the churches subsection of the Points of interest section) in the top-level article. If you don't mind, I'll move your addition to the church article now. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:52, 22 October 2023 (UTC) Hi User:Chiswick Chap,Reply[reply]

It appears that User:Bridgetfox has made no edit since 2019. It is likely safe to assume that she is no longer an active WP Editor.

Regards RAClarke (talk) 18:36, 22 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, this edit and another a little earlier on Chiswick were made today. Perhaps there was server lag in your part of the world, or something. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello RAClarke - not sure it's safe to assume that! I'm a very active editor just not an active responder on this Talk page. Bridgetfox (talk) 07:32, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How curious. Do you see a response from Bridgetfox on this page in the last four years?

Regards RAClarke (talk) 19:13, 22 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Perfectly fine, always happy to respect others' views. Bridgetfox (talk) 07:34, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Bridgetfox,

my apologies for doubting your continued existence. It's understandable if you have taken refuge from the flood of 'bot' messages above! Hopefully, future respondents (such as Chiswick Chap and myself) will now be clearer about the situation.

You may have seen that I removed information on the Bacon family from Eccles on Sea. I would have transfered it to an article about the southern Eccles - if there was one.

Best wishes RAClarke (talk) 08:51, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes of course, I have no standing to object to changes others may make. Bridgetfox (talk) 10:47, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I saw a decade ago you added a section in the Chwilog article for North Wales. I wanted to bring it to your attention that I expanded the section and took it one step further and created the Talhenbont hall article as of last week. Thanks for your contribution, however, I felt the hall's information wasn't necessary for Chwilog in detail and have replaced the paragraphs with an improved section about the owners of the hall and the surrounding lands of Chwilog. Then, actually I found a Plas Chwilog reference which I've replaced Talhenbont with for the article, this was from using a genealogy book. Please take a moment to read my Talhenbont hall and tell if there's any information I missed or anything else you might want to see in it. Thanks, bye. Cltjames (talk) 17:56, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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