Behold: Nevermind. Right now I've completely restructured the article, added a "Background" section, and filled out the "Recording" section. I've got a few more things to add to "Recording" so that'll be my focus for the time being. I think "Background" could be better, but I just wanted to get the main points written down. Obviously we need more info on what happened after the album was released. I'm not sure if you have any sources I don't (I own Come As You Are, the Classic Albums DVD, and a bunch of Guitar World issues that talk about the band) so let me know if there anything cool you have to add. One last thing: any suggestions for additional soundclips? WesleyDodds 06:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
The article Doolittle (album) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Doolittle (album) for things needed to be addressed. M3tal H3ad 12:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I've noticed that you're interested in the video game articles. You might be interested in adding your opinion to the discussion currently taking place on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Final Fantasy#Banning spoiler warnings completely. Kariteh 22:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
In a 20th anniversary interview for Spin, an interviewer asks Robert Smith of The Cure "What music has most excited you during the past 20 years?" to which Robert Smith responded "Dinosaur Jr. and Pixies." (Spitz, Marc. "Robert Smith." Spin. November 2005) If you want to include that bit in the "Legacy" section go ahead; I couldn't find an opportune area to place it. WesleyDodds 08:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
While searching for "Bam Thwok" reviews on Google, I found this article: [1]. I find it amusing because I was at the actual Pixies concert that they reference in the first two paragraphs. I actually thought they messed up intentionally as an excuse to throw out some witty stage banter. Everyone in the audience was yelling at them to keep on playing. WesleyDodds 00:23, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Congrats! WesleyDodds 02:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, but after the FAC I did for The Smashing Pumpkins I want to fix up any objections that might exist before then. I'll make things (hopefully) smoother for all parties involved. By the way, you mentioned that magazine issue you had about Nirvana. Is there anything you think is interesting or informative you can add to the article from it? WesleyDodds
I was looking at "Teen Spirit" on AcclaimedMusic.net right now. What do you think about adding one of those charts like you've added at Surfer Rosa? I think it might be useful, but given the number of lists, it might be unwieldy. Possibly more important is that according to the site's ranking system "Smells like Teen Spirit" is the fourth-most acclaimed song ever. Now that's insane. WesleyDodds 12:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Shucks, thanks, though I still haven't learned to spell. Your cranking out great articles lately, its heart warming to see so many Pixies FAs! Just two things on the Bam Thwok article: the sentence "Bam Thwok" was recorded in a Dreamworks-funded demo session, funded by" is incomplete; and the Horhaus, listentome.net, and Hannah Harper refs are not WP:RS - the first two are blogs, the last is a user contributed review. Hopefully, they're easily replaced. Other than that the article is in rude health. Ceoil 18:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
That became FA real quick. Congrats! WesleyDodds 07:25, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
You might want to post the magazine issue details on both the Alternative Wikiproject and main Music Wikiproject source list pages; I purposefully listed only the articles in each magazine issue relevant to alternative rock, thus excluding hip-hop, pop, and metal-related features, among other genres. I can fill out the articles information for the issues I own for the main Music Wikiproject later, but I think the more specific listings would still be helpful on the Alternative WikiProject source list, especially since people there might be looking for smaller pieces on particular bands within the project's scope. WesleyDodds 12:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
A thought occured to me: do you own this DVD? I didn't see it cited in the Pixies articles. Aside from containing all the videos, it also contains a documentary on the band. Very useful, as among other things you see Frank Black discussing the band's history while driving around as well as hear praise directly from people like David Bowie, Radiohead, PJ Harvey, and others. WesleyDodds 00:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey there. Got your message and I looked at the page. It seems to me though that you have nothing but print sources listed there. I know a good source that isn't print, but I don't know how to add it, you may have heard of it. It's a radio series carried on CFNY-FM called The Ongoing History of New Music, hosted by Alan Cross. It's been running since 1993, and there's an online library of nearly 200 of the episodes. Hope you can add this to your list of sources, because I've listened to quite a few episodes, and there are many interesting facts and detailed content. Cheers. -- Reaper X 20:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I finally got a chance to finish updating the article based on your suggestions from the Peer Review. So I wouldn't mind if you could take a moment and look over it again, as your advice was helpful the first time around. Thanks. Kaiser matias 02:11, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
the duke 3 were never convicted either, but damn are they sure worthy of an article. If it turns out that she is found innocent, it can be altered to reflect that decision. The fajitagate scandal never made it to trial and it has an article. The whole point is i found out of this from reading the paper, off of yahoo news, a global portal with millions of readers. I searched for it on here, it wasnt here so i created it, it really does meet the WP:BIO requirements.T ALK•QRC2006•¢ʘñ†®¡ß§ 20:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi CloudNine, in short yes and hopefully within the next few weeks. I've been deliberately not editing it or looking at it to gain what I've seen called "strategic distance". Then I can the look at it with fresher eyes, particularly for style and flow. I would love your help on this one as I do tend to salt-and-pepper puncutation and construct some very odd sentences. I'll drop you a line in the next week or so; I'm still trying to get hold of one picture - a double decker horse tram in adelaide at good resolution - but may have to settle for newsprint quality on this. Keep up the good work on the Pixies ! Peripitus (Talk) 22:15, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
In relation to your edit of Australia Zoo this article is part of wikiproject zoo, your edits will be reverted, if you wish to discuss edits of this page please do so on the talk page. You are not in a position to remove information. Please explain "PR puffery"? If you wished to have it removed then you should have added it on the talk page and not merely removed it. Regards CheetahKeeper 12:11, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
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Where'd you get the musical score used in "Monkey Gone to Heaven"? Could you possibly obtain one for the opening guitar riff to "Today"? WesleyDodds 16:14, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
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I've been busy the last few days, but in the next two days I plan to sit down and completely fill out and cite the history section, then moving to the musical characteristics section. My high ambition it to have it up for GA nomination by Wednesday or Thursday, which I think is doable given how long it took me to revamp "Smells Like Teen Spirit" for GA nomination. I'll still be busy until tomorrow, but if you want to help citing stuff one of the citations, a link to the Rolling Stone article "Five Against the World", has a pretty thorough history of the band up till 1993. I also think we should take out the paragraph about Kurt Cobain's death; interesting, sure, but really has little to do with Pearl Jam. Also, can you see if you find the 1993 Time feature that the cover used on the page comes from? It's not in the Time.com database right now. WesleyDodds 21:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Why did you revert this to incorrect capitalisation, etc.? --Mel Etitis (Talk) 22:00, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Go ahead and go through Kurt Cobain and (quite boldly) tear out whatever you deem trivial and/or unnecessary (particularly in the early years section) and add cite/fact tags where need be; I'll take care of inserting citations. What are your thoughts on the "suicide dispute" section? To me, that's the most problematic part of the article, so we'll have to work out a proposal for it that we'll then have to post on the article talk page since it causes so much debate there. WesleyDodds 04:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I made some changes according to your suggestions. Let me know if the article needs further work. Thanks. Chubbles 20:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
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To CloudNine, whose patient addressing of "oppose" concerns at FAC were instrumental in Iridion 3D passing the nom. Thanks again. David Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!) 00:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC) |
Pearl Jam: I have passed this GA nomination, it is now listed at WP:GA. Please see my notes in passing it. Good work and keep it up. Quadzilla99 00:54, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I thought we had already put a banner on their talk page. They defintiely belong (being part of the sea of mid-80s American punk bands that became alt-rock, ie. Husker Du, Replacements, Meat Puppets, Saccharine Trust, X, etc.) WesleyDodds 17:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Just a short note that I've brought up the issue of including duplicate links to All Music Guide in album articles, both in the professional reviews section and the external links section, such as in Doolittle (album), at WT:ALBUM#Duplicate links to All Music Guide. Feel free to comment there if you have any comments. Have a nice day. --PEJL 13:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I'm working on what may end up being a full rewrite of the article, and you seem to be its most active steward. I'd like to sound out your views on the changes I intend to make so that we can avoid some potential battles over its content.
My work is strictly at an outline level for now; I have to do a lot of research before I can add proper references. However, the main thrust of what I'd like to do is put a much stronger emphasis on the interrelation between the development of human society and technology throughout the article. I think this is the "big story" of technology: agriculture brought about cities; cities brought about complex societies (and writing, among other things); printing spurred the Renaissance; etc. This should not be confused with the "technology and society" stuff that you just removed (which was rambling, unreferenced, and fixated on modern society).
I don't intend to turn the article into a history of technology either, although the story of technology is bound up in its history. I hope to gain in you a co-author of an article that desperately needs scholarly attention. --Father Goose 19:49, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Let me know if you think there's anything prominently missing from it.--Father Goose 23:24, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
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Re: ((reflist|2)): am I missing something? That edit didn't appear to do anything. Cheers! Robert K S 17:01, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about that, I'd assumed that was a typo. Adam McMaster 09:28, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Did you have any specific songbook or other source that you used for that image? --Brandt Luke Zorn 01:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar! Note that a number of my comments on the Herne Bay nomination apply to your articles, including dates on captions and too much detail in the Notable residents section. Keep the good work up. CloudNine 16:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
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I think all the clips that were deleted were uploaded by the same user (for example, all the Oasis soundclips were deleted, and those were all uploaded because I asked someone to maybe around a year ago). I'm going to see if Ceoil can upload replacements for some of them. WesleyDodds 11:14, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
I would have gladly undeleted for you if you just asked me on my talk page! ;) Do you want me to do that? As long as you add a rationale all is dandy. Riana ⁂ 12:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello CloudNine. I see that you usually manually distribute the WP:ALM newsletter. Would you rather have my bot do it, so it's automatically distributed, and you don't have to manually get every user's talk page and paste the newsletter on? If so, just tell me when it's usually delivered, and if it's subst'ed or not. I'll do the rest with my bot. --R ParlateContribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 18:51, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm willing to help you with Pearl Jam in a supporting role. I've found that working on articles to get them to GA or FA status, I'm very meticulous and slow, and I rewrite my prose several times until I find something I like because my inital attempts can be lacking to my tastes. You work much faster and write more concisely. Also, I don't own any Pearl Jam albums between Vitalogy and Pearl Jam, so we would definitely need to work with others who are more familiar with those works. If you want to take care of the writing and fixing the citations (missing retrieval dates and all) I can look up more references online and possibly in print. The Legacy and Musical Style sections are always the hardest and take the longest because we have to find all these disparate comments by people, but I'll see what I can do. If you want, we can post relevant quotes and weblinks on a temp page or something and then figure out how to work them into the article.
As for "Monkey Gone to Heaven", talk about the basic, obvious things that don't need citation: the key, the differences between sections, the fact that you can hear Kim Deal doing backing vocals, the guitar solo, Black Francis starts screaming when he says "And God is seven!", etc. I think I read an analysis somewhere about the lyrics, particularly the counting part. I also believe there's an Allmusic review of the song; at least, I recall reading one once. WesleyDodds 23:06, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
I finally got the time today to finish including citations from Our Band Could Be Your Life in Grant Hart. Citing the rest of the article I suppose would have to rely on web sources. WesleyDodds 05:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey there. I notice that you review FA nominations. Would you be at all interested in having a look at this one? Possibly you would contribute or add your support? Cheers. Danny InvincibleTalk|Edits 02:03, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
How can I criticize the logo in the article? I know how it was made, why, etc... But, where would I? I also have a source. Xihix 17:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)