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Hi! Thanks for cleanup work at Capidava. Any reason for removing links to certain years, centuries? Thanks and regards.--Codrin.B (talk) 20:42, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello Chris, ive been working on these lists alot lately, and i noticed today that you have removed alot of titles everywhere. I have two concerns with this and i would like to hear your rationale.
You removed alot links to ruler titles, but there doesnt seem to be any pattern in it - you removed the 'List of Byzantine Emperors' link, but not the 'Tsar of Bulgaria' link, you removed the 'King of Georgia' link, but not the 'King of Armenia'. You removed the 'Duke of Saxony', 'Duke of Swabia', 'King of Hungary' links, but not the 'Count Palatinate of Lotharingia' or 'Duke of Upper Lotharingia' links. What is going on? Why are some titles removed and others are not?
But title-links on the other hand, i find very useful. I have to make a note here however, that it is not so much information about the title itself, as the list of rulers that is being linked. I do not think it is true people only reach these pages because they are looking for information on one specific year; i think most people are actually researching either a period or a specific region. In both cases, predecessors and successors of the ruler that is shown would also be relevant to that person's interest, therefore the link to a list of rulers of a specific territory is highly useful. Furthermore, there are still issues that you havent answered yet; there are often multiple rulers associated with a territory. Titles are simply required to make it clear what their actual positions are. The distinction between a Regent and an actual rulers specifically would be lost, causing confusion. The link to a ruler list also provides context for those rulers that do not have a page on wikipedia yet. By removing the title there, it becomes harder to find info about they have no pages of their own.
Also, the pattern you are following in which [[yyy, Duke of xxxx], Duke of xxxx becomes yyy, Duke of xxxx actually causes great inconsistency, because there is no consistency on the actual wikipedia pages on these rulers - some have their title included into their name, others do not.
Now, the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Leaders_by_year CLEARLY states the following:
"Articles are to be formatted as follows. Continent
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As you can see, the wikiproject for these pages itself says that Office should be included. You still have not told me where the decision was made to make this substantial alteration to the way these pages are written. This project is over 2000 pages large. You shouldnt suddenly introduce a significant change without discussing it. So i am asking you again, please stop removing titles from the pages for now. Omegastar (talk) 23:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)