Thank you for your edits to Lutheranism. When I originally change the word "are" to "become" was to avoid the assumption that this is the case at the time they are placed on the alter. Your edit "the consecrated elements of bread and wine are the true body and blood of Christ "in, with, and under the form" of bread and wine for all those who eat and drink it" is much better. Thank you. Dbiel ^(Talk) 20:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. It seems like much hinges on one word, a word that is heavily attested in ancient eucharistic liturgy ("that they may become for us the body and blood of Christ"), but for Lutherans "become" is Transubstantiation language.--Drboisclair 20:13, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The Shakespeare Wikiproject is starting another collaboration to bring Romeo and Juliet to GA status. Our last collaboration on William Shakespeare is still in progress, but in the copyedit stage. If you have strong copyedit skills, you may wish to continue the work on that article. Members with skills in other areas are now moving on. Improving Romeo and Juliet article will set a standard for all other Shakespeare plays, so we look forward to seeing everyone there. Thanks for all your help with the project. Wrad 20:42, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I, of course, welcome constructive commentary and criticism about my essay. However, your comment was not particularly helpful and has been removed. If you'd like to say something more substantive, please feel free to do so. --Eyrian 18:05, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Removing comments from talk pages is bad form here. It squelches the free interchange of ideas here in a place where it should be kept.--Drboisclair 18:11, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Shakespeare project's first collaboration has ended in success, with William Shakespeare reaching FA status! Congrats to all who chipped in! We also had success in our second collaboration Romeo and Juliet, which is now a GA. Our next step is deciding which article to collaborate on next. Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Shakespeare#Next Collaboration to help us choose. Thanks. Wrad 04:03, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Shakespeare Project's new collaboration is now to bring Hamlet to GA status. Wrad 00:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There has been a big debate over this policy. I think you have valuable experience that makes you an important interlocutor on this matter. I suggest you forst go here for a very concise account, and then depending on how much time you have read over the WP:NOR policy and the edit conflicts that led to its being protected, or the last talk to be archived ... or just go straight to the talk page. Slrubenstein | Talk 16:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for alerting me to these matters: I appreciate your valuing my input on this website, cordially, --Drboisclair 17:21, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome - whatever your input, I know it will be thoughtful. I think the discussion could benefit from editors who have worked on controversial articles and who also understand the range of sources one might rely on in research, and the challenges different kinds present. Slrubenstein | Talk 17:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey there. I miss you. What have you been up to lately? Arch O. La ^{Grigory Deepdelver} 18:10, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For me the problem of polytonic characters in Wikipedia has been solved today. Though I appealed to two people, at least one of whom has the rank of Administrator, to do something about the display problem, the change may have nothing to do with them. I think it is more likely that it came about because of my updating today to Internet Explorer version 7. (I should have done so months ago.) For me, polytonic text now displays perfectly on Wikipedia. It does so even without adding "((polytonic|))". (This will spare me a lot of labour.) The characters displayed are no longer in Palatino Linotype, as before, but appear just like Greek letters not placed within the polytonic template. I am curious to know whether you still have a problem with viewing Greek polytonic characters on Wikipedia. Try looking up Nicene Creed. Lima 15:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for confirming that the change that I have found is related with the change of (free) Internet browser. As for the Apostles' Creed in Greek, I simply do not know. I think you are better placed than I am to find out whether the Greek text is only a translation of the Latin text. I think the present Latin text is said to be the relatively late result of a long development; well then, if the Greek text is exactly the same as the present Latin text - as I remember it, it is exactly the same - then I suspect it is in fact just a translation, and no more significant than a translation into English. But, as I said, I am leaving the study of it to you. Lima 19:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On my Talk page you will find Csernica's explanation of why the polytonic template was not working for us since last December, and how to remedy the problem that since then has affected the IE6 browser. Lima 09:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I hope I have addressed these concerns.--Drboisclair 02:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As Halloween is my favorite holiday, I just wanted to wish my twenty favorite fellow Wikipedians a Happy Halloween! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 04:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Greetings. Super job on the plot and expanding the intro section. I had run out of resources and I believe the film is difficult to locate. I'm glad I found a screenshot of the film. Warm regards, Luigibob (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 00:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I just want to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Merry Christmas! Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 21:45, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry that it has taken so long to get back to you. As they say, "My bad."

Thank you VERY MUCH for the gesture re Brotherhood of the Bell. It is very thoughtful of you. Yes, I accept your kind offer. I will send you my addy via email. I've been busy adding film noir and cinematographer articles, including a foreign film here and there. Have a super New Year!!!

Would you consider contributing to this? Slrubenstein | Talk 01:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great! AAnd it is good to hear from you - Happy New Year! Slrubenstein | Talk 16:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you comment on this discussion? Slrubenstein | Talk 20:16, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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^{${\displaystyle \color {Red}\oplus }$}You should add your explanation at the image deletion discussion here; although, generally speaking, images from an unknown website are also likely to be deleted due to uncertain copyright status. JGHowes ^talk - 20:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked you a question here, about your Wikisource contribution. John Vandenberg (talk) 06:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Just got your DVD. You are such a nice person Thank you..... Since I have your mail, I'll send you something as well.... my best --- Luigibob (talk) 01:19, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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If you have to delete it, delete it.--Drboisclair (talk) 21:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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If you have to delete it, delete it.--Drboisclair (talk) 21:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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We have two candidates for CU on Wikisource, and we need to accumulate 25 votes in favour in order to be approved. While I am one of the candidates, I dont mind whether you vote for or against me; this note is just to ensure that you know that as you are a serious contributor to Wikisource, and we dont have many, your input is desirable at this stage. John Vandenberg (talk) 06:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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No problem! I like to help. This is an encyclopedia, not an outline. Keep up the good work! --Rekleov (talk) 00:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter

The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter! Issue IV - April 2008 Monthly Challenge: Article News Go on over to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity. A lot is going on and your input is needed! Look over the recent changes list for recent improvements to articles, other changes and vandalism. Articles needing improvement can be found in Category:Christianity stubs. Twenty four articles are at FA level and Forty four are GA level articles. You can help by adopting a topic. Christianity Articles by Quality Make visible or invisible by clicking Show or Hide, respectively. Christianity articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA Other ??? Total FA 10 8 35 119 2 1 175 FL 1 14 20 35 FM 199 1 200 A 1 1 2 GA 22 16 194 429 29 690 B 206 235 787 2,105 304 147 3,784 C 347 799 2,285 6,424 2,331 450 12,636 Start 227 222 1,302 18,344 2 10,230 752 31,079 Stub 13 280 14,674 8,303 351 23,621 List 12 38 698 981 2 75 20 1,826 Category 2 4 9 20,835 1,315 22,165 Disambig 12 300 17 329 File 865 30 895 Portal 1 373 1 375 Project 175 11 186 Redirect 6 34 81 686 1,503 524 1 2,835 Template 2 6 11 2,011 108 2,138 NA 1 1 Other 2 128 130 Assessed 832 1,370 5,686 43,817 26,393 23,282 1,722 103,102 Unassessed 8 94 146 248 Total 832 1,370 5,686 43,825 26,393 23,376 1,868 103,350 WikiWork factors (?) ω = 360,549 Ω = 5.01 Project News WikiProject Christianity Coordinators : The project coordinators are generally responsible for maintaining all of the procedural and administrative aspects of the project, and serve as the designated points-of-contact for procedural issues. They are not, however, endowed with any special executive powers, nor with any authority over article content or editor conduct.The Lead Coordinator bears overall responsibility for coordinating the project; the Assistant Coordinators aid the Lead Coordinator and focus on specific areas that require special attention. The nomination period for coordinators is currently ongoing at Election 2008 Nominations for open positions will be open through 23:59 (UTC) on April 30 and project members should vote for any candidates they support by April 11 2008. The election will be conducted using simple approval voting. Any member of the project may support as many of the candidates as they wish. The candidate with the highest number of endorsements will become the Lead Coordinator (provided he or she is willing to assume the post); the next four candidates will become Coordinators. Two new workgroups formed - Indian Christianity and Methodism Portal:Indian Christianity launched. Member News Our membership continues to expand. It is currently at 184 users. 86 new users have joined the WikiProject since last issue. Please make them feel welcomed! Archives of previous newsletters can be found here. To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, add your name here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, let ~ Tinucherian know. This newsletter is automatically delivered by GrooveBot.

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Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXIII - April 2008
Project news Elections are now taking place for coordinators of the project for the next six months. Any editors interested in seeking a coordinator position, or who want a say in who is selected, should indicate as much here. Member news The project has currently 381 members, 69 joined & 0 leavers since the start of March 2008. Other news The project's long-time lead coordinator, Kevinalewis, has announced he is not standing as a candidate for another term in that capacity. We would like to take this opportunity to express our gratitude to him for the extraordinary work he has done for this project. To Kill a Mockingbird and El Señor Presidente were both recently promoted to Featured Article status. This brings the novel FA count to 14! It has been suggested that WikiProject Sword of Truth be merged into WP:NOVELS, perhaps as a task force. Task force news Two inactive projects were converted into task forces, so Chronicles of Narnia task force and Lemony Snicket task force have been created. People interested in the aforementioned subjects are encouraged to support the new task forces. (Thank to Wassupwestcoast for the tip) Novel related news The science fiction author Arthur C. Clarke died on 19 March aged 90. The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Díaz won both the National Book Critics Circle Award and the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction for 2007. Current debates There is a discussion regarding further task forces for other genres of fiction now taking place here.	From the Members Welcome to the Twenty Third issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. We would encourage all members to get more involved and if you are wondering what with, please ask. Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk), Initiating Editor Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is A Farewell to Arms. Newsletter challenge Last month's challenge (South Wind) was completed by member User:Blathnaid with a nice starting stub. The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is Kate Christensen's 2008 PEN/Faulkner award winner The Great Man.
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John Carter (talk) 19:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The image Golem of It!.jpg of which you downloaded is under the wrong license, it should be under TV screenshots not Own work, as you only took a picture of the TV, not made the film. – ThatWikiGuy (talk) 10:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's now under the correct license. – ThatWikiGuy (talk) 11:07, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Drboisclair/Archive07/!

You are cordially invited to participate in WikiProject Christianity The goal of WikiProject Christianity is to improve the quality and quantity of information about Christianity available on Wikipedia. WP:X as a group does not prefer any particular tradition or denominination of Christianity, but prefers that all Christian traditions are fairly and accurately represented.

You are receiving this invitation because you are a member of one of the related Christianity Projects and I thought that you might be interested in this project also - Tinucherian (talk) 06:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Drboisclair/Archive07/! Welcome to Wikiproject Christianity! Thank you for joining. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! - Tinucherian (talk) 17:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC) [reply] Getting Started General • Task for You Wikiproject Talk Page • Templates Useful Links Project Category List of Christian Topics Christianity Portal Miscellaneous Featured Articles • Good Articles Did You Know? • Work Groups Anabaptist • Core Topics • Indian Christianity Iglesia ni Cristo • Jesus • Syriac Christianity Projects Article Requests • Destubbing Campaign Assessment • Articles Needing Clean-up Peer Review • Adopted Topics Similar WikiProjects Anglicanism • Bible • Calvinism Roman Catholicism • Lutheranism

We are the promoters of the Wikipedia in Ancient Greek. we need your help, specially for write NEW ARTICLES and the TRANSLATION OF THE MEDIAWIKI INTERFACE FOR ANCIENT GREEK, for demonstrating, to the language subcommittee, the value of our project.

Thanks a lot for your help. Ἡ Οὐικιπαιδεία needs you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.40.197.5 (talk) 19:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I had added cleanup of the article to my to-do list, and then you did most of the work for me. Thanks, I feel that it's a much better article now. Aylad ['ɑɪlæd] 00:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I think that you have done a good service in looking over the article and refining the ore into sterling.--Drboisclair (talk) 13:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter

The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter! Issue V - May 2008 Article News 49 ( earlier 24) articles are at FA level and 94 (Earlier 44) are GA level articles. You can help by adopting a topic. Articles needing improvement can be found in Category:Christianity stubs. Project News Go on over to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity. A lot is going on and your input is needed! Look over the recent changes list for recent improvements to articles, other changes and vandalism. WikiProject Christianity Coordinators : The project coordinators are generally responsible for maintaining all of the procedural and administrative aspects of the project, and serve as the designated points-of-contact for procedural issues. They are not, however, endowed with any special executive powers, nor with any authority over article content or editor conduct.The Lead Coordinator bears overall responsibility for coordinating the project; the Assistant Coordinators aid the Lead Coordinator and focus on specific areas that require special attention. The following Coordinators were elected after Elections 2008 Lead Coordinator : John Carter Assistant Coordinators : Tinucherian and Secisek Congratulations to the newly elected Project Coordinators. It has been proposed that Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbian Orthodox Church be merged into Wikipedia:WikiProject Eastern Orthodoxy. All opinions are welcome. One new workgroup was formed - Christianity in China Portal:Christianity in China was launched. Portal:Indian Christianity was renamed to Portal:Christianity in India Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian Christianity was renamed to Christianity in India Work Group There is also a discussion regarding whether any new subportals dealing with Christianity should be created here. All inputs are welcome. Bot Assisted Assessment was used for the unassessed project articles. Should you need any manual reassessment , kindly request it here. Member News Our membership continues to expand. It is currently at 223 users. 39 new users have joined the WikiProject in the month of April 2008. Please make them feel welcomed! Christianity Articles by Quality Make visible or invisible by clicking Show or Hide, respectively. Christianity articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA Other ??? Total FA 10 8 35 119 2 1 175 FL 1 14 20 35 FM 199 1 200 A 1 1 2 GA 22 16 194 429 29 690 B 206 235 787 2,105 304 147 3,784 C 347 799 2,285 6,424 2,331 450 12,636 Start 227 222 1,302 18,344 2 10,230 752 31,079 Stub 13 280 14,674 8,303 351 23,621 List 12 38 698 981 2 75 20 1,826 Category 2 4 9 20,835 1,315 22,165 Disambig 12 300 17 329 File 865 30 895 Portal 1 373 1 375 Project 175 11 186 Redirect 6 34 81 686 1,503 524 1 2,835 Template 2 6 11 2,011 108 2,138 NA 1 1 Other 2 128 130 Assessed 832 1,370 5,686 43,817 26,393 23,282 1,722 103,102 Unassessed 8 94 146 248 Total 832 1,370 5,686 43,825 26,393 23,376 1,868 103,350 WikiWork factors (?) ω = 360,549 Ω = 5.01 To do list of the Project Make visible or invisible by clicking Show or Hide, respectively. 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Thanks for the nice note on my talk page!! --Npnunda (talk) 23:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this, don't bother filing a report. I went ahead and semi-protected it for one month. Good to hear from you. Pastordavid (talk) 01:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:WA 53 475.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. SkierRMH (talk) 05:48, 21 May 2008 (UTC) ... as well as the other images in this seriesSkierRMH (talk) 05:48, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete them all since they are from a project that was discontinued long ago. Thank you for letting me know.--Drboisclair (talk) 15:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Golem of It!.jpg looks OK, I added the 2nd article. SkierRMH (talk) 05:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a topic that I am deeply informed about, so I will have to do some reading to catch myself up before I dive into editing. That said, the reliance on one source always worries me, and I would strive to bring in a wider range of sources (not for their own sake, but for the wider perspective). And, at the outset, the merge seems intuitive - unless someone can right quality articles for them seperately (a bridge we can cross later). Well done, as always. Oh, and by the way, since there are far too few of these around, and you definately deserve it ...

		The Barnstar of Indulgence
		In recognition of all of your hard work to improve the wikipedia's coverage of all things Lutheran. Display it with pride (but not too much). Pastordavid (talk) 17:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to say, but I agree with your friends profs. The fact is, our coverage of church history and Christian theology are shoddy at best. There are some great exceptions to this trend out there, but they are too few and far behind. May I offer this work-in-progress collaboration/work group as something that may help. We could sure use your input on it. Pastordavid (talk) 17:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:WA 53 426.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 01:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please delete it without delay because the project for which it was downloaded is defunct.--Drboisclair (talk) 11:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter Issue VI - June 2008 Project news We now have 51 featured articles and 98 good articles, with the recent promotions of Hubert Walter to FA class, and Oswald of Worcester, Papal election, 1292-1294, Pontius Pilate's wife, and Towson United Methodist Church to GA level. Thanks to all those who worked on these articles! Member news The project currently has 233 members, 15 joined & 1 leavers since the start of May 2008. Other news Roman Catholic Church is currently a featured article candidate. Bath Abbey has been nominated for GA status. Related projects news New Projects and/or work groups have been proposed for Christian theology and Christian denomations. Christianity related news Barack Obama leaves Trinity United Church Court ruling on FLDS case From the Members Welcome to the Sixth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. Luckily, you all won't have to see my comments very often, as very little I have to say is really that important. But I would like to take the opportunity to say that I hope everyone finds the new General Forum page useful for discussing ideas relevant to Christianity in general, and feels free to make any additional comments regarding general Christianity there. Also, if any of you feel that you want to place a comment here in the future, please let us know what you want included. We would encourage all members to get more involved and if you are wondering what with, please ask. Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. John Carter (talk), Lead Coordinator Newsletter challenge We are initiating a new feature here. Every month, we will list one misisng article. The first person to start the article will be mentioned by name in the next newsletter, as well as any others should they help get included in the Main Page DYK's section. This month's article is Church of Daniel's Band. To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. This newsletter is automatically delivered by TinucherianBot (talk) 08:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Thought you may find this interesting and want to comment. [1]. --Npnunda (talk) 04:58, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• • An Admin has protected Book of Concord again. Regards. --Npnunda (talk) 23:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to lend your expertise to Martin Luther's views on Mary and Protestant views of Mary. --Flex (talk/contribs) 14:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, we seem to collaborate on Luther’s views. I created this and other articles on Calvin – Zwingli is in the making – as a part of a series on Marian views of Protestant reformers. Related articles forthcoming are Calvinist views on Mary, which incorporates a number of lesser known writers, and, much later, Lutheran views on Mary, equally including less known authors and documents. All this is an ongoing process, as you see from my most recent additions to Luther and Calvin, who by now exceeds in size and content the page, some like to merge him to. -:))

I really appreciate your improvement in the Luther page. The page reads much better thanks to your considerable work. This is a nice subject, if you have any suggestions to me regarding content on any of these topics, kindly let me know. Thank’s--Ambrosius007 (talk) 09:28, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Drboisclair, I appreciated your reply. What do you think about adding your information on these results as a new section ? It would lift the article from the past to the present. I am presently working on several "smaller fish", but very interesting ones, contemporaries of ML or later ones within this timeframe. Do you know Jacob Böhme? -:)) A little unusual but fascinating. All these fellows together make up the Reformation and together give a much better insight to me, than looking at ML or JC alone. Impressive is each strenght of conviction. Pope Pius IV said of them: "If I had such servants, my dominion would extend from sea to sea". --Ambrosius007 (talk) 18:07, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In my own defense, I nominated the pages for merger based on their earlier form. I have seen that many edits have gone into them since then, but I've not had a chance to revisit them. They may indeed not be merge-worthy any more. --Flex (talk/contribs) 17:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another book that you both might find useful is Reforming Mary: Reforming Mary: Changing Images of the Virgin Mary in Lutheran Sermons of the Sixteenth Century. See the relevant quotations I gave at Talk:Protestant_views_of_Mary#Merges, but the author covers plenty more in the book. (Apparently, Ambrosius007 no longer acknowledges my talk since I have received no reply there or in the subsequent section despite his regular edits and discussion with others.) --Flex (talk/contribs) 21:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As you are a nice Wikipedian, I just wanted to wish you a happy Independence Day! And if you are not an American, then have a happy day and a wonderful weekend anyway!  :) Your friend and colleague, --Happy Independence Day! Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 21:36, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter Issue VIII - July 2008 Project news We now have 53 featured articles 6 featured lists, and 130 good articles, with the recent promotions of Thomas Cranmer to FA class, List of encyclicals of Pope John XXIII to FL status, and Hugh de Puiset to GA level. Thanks to all those who worked on these articles! Portal:Lutheranism has been created, and other portals are being discussed. Please feel free to take part in the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum. Member news The project currently has 239 members, 10 joined & 1 leavers since the start of June 2008. Other news Thomas S. Monson is currently a Good Article nominee. Related projects news New Projects and/or work groups have been proposed for Christian theology and Christian denomations. Christianity related news Former science director sues Texas over intelligent design e-mail Mormon church warns Wikileaks over documents From the Members Welcome to the Eighth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. As many of you will know, we currently have several articles relating to the same basic topics. The articles in the Category:Baptism are one example of such. It is really in the interests of all of us to try to place as much content in the main article of such topics, and then have the other articles "branch off" from there and making the central article as good an article as possible. We also now have a proposal for a new general "Christianity" related award, similar to the Military history project's chevrons, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum. John Carter (talk), Lead Coordinator Newsletter challenge Last month's new article challenge, Church of Daniel's Band, was begun by User:Jack1956 and was included in the Main page's DYK section on June 15. Thank you to Jack1956 for his great work on creating this article! This month's article is Amended Christadelphians. To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please list yourself in the appropriate section here.

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I didn't remove the "Christianity Portal" templates from Apostles' Creed and Athanasian Creed. Acording to the Manual of Style, Portal boxes are belong to go under "See also." --Carlaude (talk) 21:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I should have looked at it more closely.--Drboisclair (talk) 21:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings! The current Shakespeare Project Collaboration is Romeo and Juliet. This project is currently going a thorough peer review and copyedit before moving on to FAC. The link to the peer review is Wikipedia:Peer review/Romeo and Juliet/archive1. Have a look! « Diligent Terrier Bot (talk) 20:45, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings! The current Shakespeare Project Collaboration is Romeo and Juliet. This project is currently going a thorough peer review and copyedit before moving on to FAC. The link to the peer review is Wikipedia:Peer review/Romeo and Juliet/archive1. Have a look! « Diligent Terrier Bot (talk) 20:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please tell me how it messes up the sources by removing that "source" and what is it sourcing?Theology10101 (talk) 13:50, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You removed the formula (ref=?), which is used later in the references for other times that this source is used. You also seem to be saying that it is not a valid source for what Luther says.--Drboisclair (talk) 19:26, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What I said is, "That citation had nothing to do with the titles of Luther." Which is very very accurate and glad to see you removed it. The only thing I'm trying to do is to make these articles clean, accurate, and professional. In addition what I removed, as you can look in the changes, was a perfect modification and it didn't effect any other sources. Please look closer to these edits and any comments before you start reverting people's modifications. Plus there's hundreds of other sources for the title "Father of Protestantism" and is not in any way inaccurate. Theology10101 (talk) 21:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you did the right thing by requesting citations on the Luther Bible article. He more just changed it then deleting info. I did another sockpuppet case and the admin's did a six month block on Book of Concord this time. Looks like they are about as sick of the vandalism as we are. Thanks for your help!! --Npnunda (talk) 00:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your thorough attention to this matter: I think it is only fair to the editors this banned editor abused.--Drboisclair (talk) 00:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please state where "purgatory" is used in the novella and where you discovered that Lewis believed in purgatory. Lewis was a protestant, I am not. Please do not assume such things, it makes an ASS of U and ME. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waynercook (talk • contribs) 05:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just because the word is not used does not mean that elements of the concept are not used. He may not have believed in Purgatory, but some of the concepts are in the novella.--Drboisclair (talk) 14:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Novels Roll Call

WikiProject Novels is currently holding a roll call, which we hope to have annually. Your username is listed on the members list, but we are unsure as to which editors are still active within the project. If you still consider yourself an active WP:Novels editor, please add your name back to the Active Members list. Also feel free to join any of our task forces and take a look at the project's Job Centre to get involved!

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The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue XXVI - September 2008

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue XXVI - September 2008 Project news The Margaret Atwood novel The Penelopiad reached Featured Article status on June 29 and then appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on August 26. It is the first article created through Wikipedia:Articles for creation to become Featured. To Kill a Mockingbird appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on July 11. I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings reached Good Article status on July 1. Member news The members list is currently under review so we have moved all past active member's name to a Incumbent List and are doing a Project Roll Call. If you still consider yourself an active WP:NOVELS editor, please add your name back to the Active Members List. You may also wish to add your name to any of our many Project Task Forces. Task force news A Fantasy Literature task force has been proposed. Comments are welcomed on that proposal since we already have our own WikiProject Novels/Fantasy task force which is covered under our Novels WikiProject. Novel-related news Devil May Care, written by Sebastian Faulks ("writing as Ian Fleming"), has become Penguin Books fastest selling hardcover fiction title. It is the latest installment in the book series about British secret agent James Bond and was released to coincide with the 100th anniversary of late Bond creator Ian Fleming's birthday on May 28, 1908. Me Cheeta: the Autobiography, written by a ghostwriter, is the autobiography of Cheeta the Chimp who is listed in the Guinness World Records as the oldest recorded non-human primate at the age of 76. He has appeared in various movie roles which included twelve Tarzan movies and even battled addiction to alcohol and cigars. The book is not published until October 1, but judges for the 2008 Guardian First Book Award were sent a early version and were so impressed that they have included it on the 10-strong longlist. Stephenie Meyer, who is listed by Time magazine as one of its 100 most influential people of 2008, has decided not to continue with writing her draft for Midnight Sun after 12 chapters of the unfinished manuscript were leaked on the internet. Current debates Categories for Discussion has a series of discussions about whether to categorize certain specific types of fictional characters: double agents, dictators, characters with eidetic memory, etc. Advice from any Novels project members would be valuable in assisting them. WikiProject Media franchises aims to help editors with the coordination of articles within the thousands of media franchises which exist and has requested input from our members. They are currently discussing a naming convention for franchise articles. Since this may affect one or more articles in our Novel project, they would like to get opinions before implimenting any changes. From the Members With the Newsletter being almost three months overdue, I have decided to take on the position of Editor to make sure it reaches you regularly on time each month. The Newsletter is meant to inspire and encourage our team of Editors and so my goal shall be to make it informative and interesting each issue. We now have many positions vacant in our Project Team, so we are looking for members who have the time and interest to take on the various roles, details of which can be found at the Job Centre. Shortly a Coordinator nominations notice shall also be sent out to all members, which will commence the annual Coordinator selection process. Next month's Newsletter will include a message from our Coordinator Maria, who will introduce herself and speak on our forthcoming elections for extra Coordinators. Boylo (talk), Editor Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is Look Homeward, Angel. The next collaboration is due for selection on 14 September, 2008 so cast your vote. Newsletter challenge Our last newsletter's challenge The Pure Land was completed by our member Maclean25, who also provided us with tipline news for this newsletter. The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is Leslie Ann Moore's first book in her fantasy 'Griffin's Daughter' trilogy, which was named by the Independent Book Publishers Association as the 2008 Ben Franklin Award winner for Best First Fiction, Griffin's Daughter. Note: This article was previously deleted due to lack of notability, but that now can be established since winning this award. To unsubscribe from further issues of this newsletter please remove your name from here.

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Category:Films titled "It", which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. – Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 04:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Original blessing, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Original blessing. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. ScienceApologist (talk) 21:15, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How is an expert on Science also an expert on theology?--Drboisclair (talk) 21:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is a consolidation that I am attempting with a sprawling walled garden associated with the New Thought movement. It came to my attention because of the New Thought movement's association with alternative medicine. I figure that if we sweep original blessing up with Matthew Fox, we can begin to stem the tide and keep the problems contained. ScienceApologist (talk) 23:05, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I appreciate what you are doing! We do need to keep Wikipedia up to snuff because I too would like to see it be more respected in the academic world, and editors like you are taking the time to do this.--Drboisclair (talk) 15:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 27 - October 2008

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 27 - October 2008 Project news A Did you know fact from the new article The Masks of Time by Robert Silverberg appeared on the main page on 19 September, 2008. Member news Nominations have now commenced for Coordinator Candidates for the Novels Project. Any member of the project may nominate themselves. Nominations close on October 27, so if you wish to run make sure you add your name before then. Details on the election process and the role of Coordinators can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Coordinators/October 2008. The voting and question phase of the election will open on October 28 and end November 28. After the recent roll call, the Novels Project now has 74 active members. 15 positions still remain unfilled at the Job Centre, members who are interested are encouraged to apply. Pyfan has taken on the position of coordinator for the "Fantasy", "Science fiction" and "Shannara" task forces plus joined the "Style team". the_ed17 has also taken on the position of coordinator for the "Shannara" task force and joined the "Peer Review team". Coordinators are still required for the "Australian", "Chronicles of Narnia", "Crime", "Lemony Snicket" and "Short stories" task forces, which may be applied for at the Job Centre. Task force news A new task force has now commenced under the Novels Project known as the Twilight task force, based on the Twilight series of vampire-based fantasy/romance novels by author Stephenie Meyer. You may join by adding your name to Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Twilight task force/Participants or contact founder Bella Swan for more details. Member in Focus Yllosubmarine (talk · contribs) has been a member of the Novels WikiProject for nearly two years, and a coordinator since May. Aside from her work outside the project (including four FAs and six GAs in various areas), she has been active in the Project's Assessment and Peer Review departments. She hopes to continue in these roles as well as help encourage more activity and community research within the Project. With the upcoming coordinator election, she hopes that others will volunteer to become more active in their roles as Project members so that we can continue to provide quality articles to the readers of this encyclopedia. María (habla conmigo) Current debates A collection of Wikipedia articles is being collected together as Wikipedia 0.7. This collection will be released on DVD, so we have been asked to review the articles selected from this project. Revisions are requested before October 20. More details can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/GeneralForum#Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Novel. From the Outreach Department On the advice of Coordinator Maria, the newsletter is now only distributed to active listed members of the Novels Project. A new section has started with this issue called 'In Focus', which will feature various members and task forces each month. Members are requested to post any news items to the Tip Line (found above) to make sure it reaches the next newsletter before closing date, which is always the last day of the preceding month. Any task force news should be added by the coordinator of that task force. Having news items helps inform members of what is happening at the various task forces and so can be a way of encouraging more membership and participation. Editors are required to assist with the newsletter for Task Force News and Peer Reviews & Assessments News, which involves the gathering of news items from the main project and the various task forces. These positions may be applied for at the Job Centre. Boylo (talk), Editor Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Steppenwolf (novel). The next collaboration is due for selection on 1 November, 2008 so cast your vote. Newsletter challenge Our last newsletter's challenge Griffin's Daughter was uncompleted. The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is The Cater Street Hangman. This is the first published novel by historical detective fiction author Anne Perry whose early life featured in the Peter Jackson movie Heavenly Creatures. Note: This article currently redirects to Thomas Pitt (fictional character).

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The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 28 - November 2008

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 28 - November 2008 Member news Coordinators election voting and question time is now open. Project members should vote for any candidates they wish to support by November 28 at the Coordinator Elections. Yllosubmarine, aka Maria, has decided not to be reappointed, her work as sole Coordinator since the last elections in May is highly appreciated by all members of the project. The Novels Project now has 88 active members. 18 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only do a position for a short time. Ladywitchthought has taken on the position of coordinator for the "Lemony Snicket task force". Project news On September 26, a fact on Shea Ohmsford, the protagonist of Terry Brooks novel The Sword of Shannara appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. On September 29, the expanded article about the novel Thrones, Dominations written by Dorothy L. Sayers and Jill Paton Walsh appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On October 11, the new article Going, Going, Gone written by Jack Womack appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On October 18, a fact from The Dragon Lord by David Drake appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. On October 22, the expanded articles The Sirian Experiments and The Making of the Representative for Planet 8 written by Doris Lessing appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On October 25, the new article A Real Basket Case by Beth Groundwater appeared on the main page in the DYK section. - Contributors are the_ed17, Maclean25 & Captain-tucker (who searched the archives). Task force and related news WikiProject North of the Rio Grande has begun. WP:NRG is an educational project aiming to "improve a selection of articles on Chicano and Latino literature to featured article status (or as near as possible)." Among the articles they are working on are How the García Girls Lost Their Accents and Who Would Have Thought It?. They welcome any advice or help that members of WikiProject Novels may be able to offer. If interested drop a note on their talk page. – Position of editor for 'Task force news' is still available at the Job Centre. Peer review and assessment news Peer Reviews are still open for three articles – At Swim-Two-Birds, The Emberverse series & Flowers for Algernon. Feel free to submit any novel-related article that you are working on for review, and please consider stopping by and reviewing an article, as we need more reviewers for our articles! – the_ed17 (talk), Editor – Peer review and assessment news Member in Focus Hi, I have been around this project for quite some time now. Bit of a hiatus earlier this year, but back now just contributing. The Novels WikiProject wasn't started by me but my interest in the subject initially attracted me to what was here. It has developed substantially in the last few years and now takes in all forms of Narrative Prose Fiction within its scope. We are about the content not the format of the prose so WP:Books differs a little in that an implied format is entailed; also they can also focus more clearly on non-fiction. WP:Literature are the "new boys on the block" and are a little more focused on the "quality" aspects of literature, and again they have less emphasis on pure fiction and the prose aspect. Our biggest problem is to maintain a certain focus of interest across such a broad subject area and we need workers who can develop task forces, teams for assessment, teams for peer review and so much more. "So much to do, so little time, I'm late, I'm late, I'm late" to misquote from Alice in Wonderland. Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) Current debates The featured list Narnian timeline has been nominated for removal. You can comment here. The Narnian timeline is a featured list, which means it has been identified as one of the best lists produced by the Wikipedia community. Novel related news Indian writer Aravind Adiga wins the Man Booker Prize for his debut novel, The White Tiger. From the Outreach Department As I shall be leaving Wikipedia, this will be my last newsletter. Any member who is interested in taking over the role of editor can sign up for the position at the Job Centre. Over the last month I have been working on a portal for our project. So am happy to announce that the Novels Portal is now up and running. Boylo (talk), Editor Boylo: Thank you for getting this newsletter back on its feet and going again. No Boylo equals no Novels Portal...heck, without you, we wouldn't have had a newsletter for these past months...so, for all of the members of the Novels WikiProject, I want to thank you for the time and effort you have put into this project, and I wish you the best of luck in all of your future endeavors. Thanks, pal. the_ed17 (talk) Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Novel. As this is our Project's premier article, all members are asked to assist. The next collaboration is due for selection on 21 November, 2008 so cast your vote. Newsletter challenge Our last newsletter's challenge The Cater Street Hangman was uncompleted. The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is Mindplayers by science fiction author Pat Cadigan. Announcements and open tasks WikiProject Novels • (inc. novellas, novelettes & short stories) Announcements and open tasks (watch • edit • discuss • changes) → Please help with tagging articles! Critique (Featured article): 33 achieved Novels WikiProject Peer reviews: • Sector General • Petals of Blood • Flowers for Algernon Improve: Oberon Old and New • The Age of Reason • Furies of Calderon • Wolf Brother • The Monk • The English Patient • Bones of the Moon Create: To the Vanishing Point • Spoilt City Recently a new worklist had been created and quietly arrived, the Cleanup listing which gives a fairly comprehensive hit list of "novels" related articles that have been tagged for something or other. Since then a new Article alerts listing has also been added of more topic and "urgent" items worthy of our attention.

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I have been diagnosed with Stage 4 lung cancer—and I NEVER SMOKED! Go figure. Arch O. La ^{Grigory Deepdelver} 05:41, 2 December 2008 (UTC)Archola[reply]

Does Lutheranism have a view, or even a majority view, on the Deuterocanonical Books and the canon?

I know Lutheranism's view is not alaways the same as Luther's view and changes to Template:Books of the Bible‎ make it seem that all Lutheranism follow the Deuterocanonical Books as part of the cannon. --Carlaude ^(talk) 19:36, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lutheranism follows Luther in saying that the Deuterocanonical Books are not part of the canon; however, by "Deuterocanonical Books" I take it that you mean the Apocrypha of the Old Testament (1-2 Macabees, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach [Ecclesiasticus], inter alia). I think that you mean the "Antilegomena" of the New Testament--as opposed to the "Homologoumena". Lutheranism is united in accepting the Antilegomena (Hebrews, James, 2nd Peter, 2nd & 3rd John, Jude, and Revelation) as part of the canon. Luther himself in his later years was more reverent toward these books. Note that in his translation of the Bible the Antilegomena appeared in their proper places in the canon. Does this answer your question? Lutheranism is rather solidly behind the Antilegomena being in the canon; however, Lutheranism is tolerant of those who might not accept the canonicity of these books.--Drboisclair (talk) 08:01, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am asking about the "Apocrypha of the Old Testament" (called Deuterocanonical depending on your view). Can you cite a soure for saying "Lutheranism follows Luther in saying that the Deuterocanonical Books are not part of the canon" -- so that I have a basic to correct Template:Books of the Bible‎.

Baring that, maybe posting your view to Template talk:Books of the Bible‎ will do. --Carlaude ^(talk) 15:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Luther was the one most free and easy about the canon; however, that was only his personal opinion that he did not use as a criterion in his including books into his translation of the Bible. You find in his translation all 66 books of the Protestant canon. The Apocrypha is also in this edition, but it is not put with the books of the Old Testament as the Roman Catholics have in their Bibles. He made a distinction between the sacred canonical books and the apocryhal books of the Old Testament. Luther was inclined to exclude books from the 66 books, so he was not likely to include the Apocrypha at all. He questioned the canonicity of Ecclesiastes and Esther because the former appeared to teach skepticism and the latter did not contain the name of God. What I am saying here is that Luther was more inclined to omit things rather than to include things, so he wouldn't have included the Apocrypha in his list of the canonical books of the Old Testament.

This is found in footnote 1, page 337 of Luther's Works, vol. 35: "Apocrypha: these books are not held equal to the Scriptures but are useful and good to read." (Weimar Ausgabe Deutsche Bible 2:547).

This is from Erwin L. Leuker, The Christian Cyclopedia, CPH, 2000 under the entry "Canon-Bible": "Luther’s dictum on the Apocrypha expressed in his tr. of the Bible 1534, 'These are books which are not held equal to the sacred Scriptures and yet are useful and good for reading,' influenced subsequent generations; we find the Apocrypha excluded from the sacred canon in the translations gen. used in Luth., Angl., and Ref. churches (though the KJV originally included them)."

Heinrich Schmid compiled the doctrine of what are known as the 16-17th century Lutheran dogmaticians in a book known as The Docrinal Theology of the Evangelical Lutheran Church. This work points out that second generation Lutherans like Martin Chemnitz (1522-1586) and Matthias Flacius (1520-1575) made a distinction between the Homolegoumena and Antilegomena of the New Testament, but this distinction was ignored by the later Lutheran dogmaticians (1577-1714). This is from Schmid's book: "§ 12. Of the Canon and the Apocryphal Books.": The written Word of God consists of the Word of God of the Old and the Word of God of the New Testament. In the collection, however, that contains both of these, we find also other writings, which we do not call the Word of God in the same sense. We distinguish these two kinds of writings in the following manner, viz.: we call the first class canonical books, i.e., such as, because they are inspired by God, are the rule and guide of our faith; the others, apocryphal books, i.e., such whose divine origin is either doubtful or has been disproved. Although both kinds are found in the Bible, only those of the first class are admitted as a rule of faith, whence they are called the Canon (catalogue, or number, of the canonical books), while those of the other class may contribute their share to the edification of believers, but are not to be regarded as the Word of God, and from them, therefore, no proof for any doctrine of the faith is to be drawn. Whether a book is canonical or not, we are then to ascertain by the signs whereby we recognize the Word of God in general as such, as of the divine origin, as inspired. The testimony of the Holy Spirit is more conclusive evidence than anything else of the divine character of the contents of a book; next to this come all the other kinds of evidence which we have enumerated under the head of the Authority of Holy Scripture (§ 8, Note 10) as the external and internal criteria. Among the latter, the testimony of the Church in the earliest ages in regard to the canonical character of a book is of special importance, for it is assuredly a matter of the highest moment if we know that a book was acknowledged as canonical already at a day when its origin could be most accurately ascertained. More particularly do we need the testimony of the earliest ages of the Church in deciding historical questions, as to the name of the author of a book, as to the language in which it was originally composed; for by the testimony of the Holy Spirit we may indeed become assured of the divinity of a book, experiencing its power in our own hearts, but He bears no testimony as to questions of this kind. As canonical books of the Old Testament we acknowledge: (1) Genesis; (2) Exodus; (3) Leviticus; (4) Numbers; (5) Deuteronomy; (6) Joshua; (7) Judges; (8) Ruth; (9) I and II Samuel;(10) I and II Kings; (11) I and II Chronicles; (12) Ezra and Nehemiah (or second Ezra); (13) Esther; (14) Job; (15) Psalms; (16) Proverbs; (17)Ecclesiastes; (18) Song of Solomon; (19) Isaiah; (20) Jeremiah; (21) Lamentations; (22) Ezekiel; (23) Daniel; (24) twelve minor prophets, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zachariah, Malachi. As apocryphal: Tobias, Judith, Baruch, I, II, and III Maccabees, III and IV Ezra, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus or Syracides. As appendices: Epistle of Jeremiah, annexed to Baruch, Appendix to Daniel, Supplement to Esther, Prayer of Manasseh." This is on pages 80 and 81 of Heinrich Schmid, The Doctrinal Theology of the Evangelical Lutheran Church, Charles A. Hay and Henry E. Jacobs, trans., (Minneapolis: Augsburg Publishing House, 1961), 80-81. Instead of getting more liberal the Lutherans are more conservative in adopting the generic Protestant canon of the 66 books of the Bible: 39 in the Old Testament, 27 in the New Testament. I hope that this is helpful.--Drboisclair (talk) 08:40, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I might write something like this: "Lutherans following Martin Luther himself never included any of the Old Testament Apocrypha in their Old Testament canon. They followed the traditional Protestant canon of the books of the Bible." I would then have this to back up that statement in a footnote: "Jaroslav Pelikan and Helmut Lehmann, gen. eds., Luther's Works, The American Edition, 55 vols., (St. Louis and Philadelphia: CPH and Fortress Press, 1955-1986), 35:337; Erwin Lueker, Christian Cyclopedia, (St. Louis: CPH, 2000), sub "canon-Bible"; Heinrich Schmid, The Doctrinal Theology of the Evangelical Lutheran Church, Charles A. Hay and Henry E. Jacobs, trans., (Minneapolis: Augsburg Publishing House, 1961), 80-81."--Drboisclair (talk) 09:00, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Just to let you know that I am in the midst of working on Bucer. Right now I am working on the Zwingli and Luther section (I still have to cover the Marburg Colloquy). Everything previous to that section is content that I added. The remaining sections contain text from the original version of the article which was a hodge-podge mess. I intend to expand and rewrite them. The illustrations will most likely be moved around as I add more material. Thanks anyway for helping to clean things up. By the way, I have an article on peer review, John Calvin and if you can comment/criticise it, I would appreciate it. --RelHistBuff (talk) 18:18, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I think that what you are doing is a helpful improvement. I guess that once you get done with it it should be much better. The paragraph on his works should be rewritten.--Drboisclair (talk) 18:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC)--drb (talk) 14:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind words. As you note, it's not just me who's against using the IMDb in place of scholarly sources. My problem with it is that it's not compiled by the scholars of the field, and that it's a tertiary source. I do not object to using it along with secondary sources written by the scholars of the field, or with linking to it on film pages so the user can glean the info they cover which we do not. But it should never be used in place of real scholarly sources. The fact that the IMDb is harder to edit than Wikipedia doesn't matter, as Wikipedia does not use Wikipedia articles as sources. The bottom line is, in my opinion good tertiary sources, from Britannica to JSTOR, do not rely on other tertiary sources. And I also quite like your quote from Merlin. While it did not come from Geoffrey or Malory or Tenyson, it did originate with one of the great masters, T. H. White ;) .--Cúchullain ^t/c 02:06, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation. I would guess that the implimentation of a rigorous policy of providing good sourcing is in the wake of the accusation in past years that Wikipedia is a joke in the academic world. Scholars like you are working to make it the resource it should be in this respect. My fear, though, is this new rigor in imposing "notability" to the point of being inclusive of all there is to know in the world. In my first years in Wikipedia, which correspond to yours, the big rigor was in making Wikipedia NPOV, which is definitely a good goal; however, now the rigor is NOT, notability. Certainly one should exclude vanity pages of some of us, but one should not be so ready to condense everything down to the point that it does not contain every possible human thought. It is the inclusiveness of Wikipedia that causes it to popup on google searches in the first place. That is how I first discovered Wikipedia. Wikipedia should be the encyclopedia of the 21st century that contains everything. In that way it could be considered the Aristotle of the modern world. That is my desire; however, with proper primary, secondary, and tertiary sources ;)--drb (talk) 16:10, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you explain why the content is appropriate even after reading WP:SYN? —Erik (talk • contrib) 16:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the material is not synthesis in that it deals with the content of the film. That section on "synthesis" is irrelevant in that the content of the film is compared with history, which informs the viewer of the film who might want information on this subject. The film is not a complete work of fiction like Alice in Wonderland; it is an historical drama, which uses actual historical personages and actual historical events. It is helpful to the person seeking information to know how this content compares with history. If I were to compare Alice in Wonderland to historical sources, that would be OR and synthesis, not the work of editors in this instance.--drb (talk) 16:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, the material does not deal with the film at all. Look at these sources used:

• Boatwright et al. The Romans: From Village to Empire. pp. 402-4 ISBN 9780195118766
• Historia Augusta, Loeb Classical Library, 3 vols., (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1921), 1:265-313
• Boatwright et al. The Romans: From Village to Empire. pp. 406 ISBN 9780195118766
• "Commodus". Encyclopædia Britannica Online. Retrieved 2007-02-19.
• Historia Augusta, Loeb Classical Library, 3 vols., (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1921), 1:273, footnote 28
• "Ancient Roman Architecture". Retrieved 2007-02-19.
• Historia Augusta, Loeb Classical Library, 3 vols., (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1921), 1:323-324

These sources are completely appropriate for historical articles. The comparisons are being made are comparisons that did not exist before someone picked up these history books, thus it is synthesis. There are reliable sources that study the film and its historical roots, and these are what can be used. What's above is a connection made that starts with the editor him or herself, not with a secondary source. As editors, we write information as reported elsewhere. We don't come up with these connections on our own. That's why most of the section is synthesis. —Erik (talk • contrib) 17:01, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are making policy here by restricting what reliable sources one can use in any article. This is an historical drama, so it is not original research or "synthesis" to compare its content with history. It did not originate with the editors but with the film itself by its own content.--drb (talk) 17:14, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please focus on the content, not the contributor... if you disagree with the wording found at WP:SYN, we can discuss that. Let's take an example: "Synthesis occurs when an editor puts together multiple sources to reach a novel conclusion that is not in any of the sources." In the article, the film is used to describe the fictional Commodus, and a history book is used to describe the actual Commodus. The comparison is being put forth explicitly despite neither source making that comparison. How is that not synthesis? It is not original research in the sense of people making stuff up; it is in the sense that connections are made when they didn't exist before. It's not our job to put forth connections like that; we put forth connections as reported by reliable sources. If readers want to make connections on their own, they can watch the film and study history and thus draw their own conclusions. The content is really akin to a thesis paper... if one was assigned to analyze the historical accuracies and inaccuracies of the film using history books, then that would be the editor's own product. —Erik (talk • contrib) 17:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I still maintain that that is your opinion and your interpretation of this "synthesis" policy. Everything on this website could be described as a thesis paper. You are a strict constructionist in looking at this policy while I feel that more latitude should be given. As an editor that works on films it is surprizing that editors doing that type of work encourage analysis and not only summarization in summaries of films, whereas, I would strictly summarize the film content when I write these articles. I think that latitude should be afforded editors who compare apparent content of historical dramas with history itself. The comparison is not original with them but in the content of the film. This section of policy "synthesis" is irrelevant in this case for those reasons, and I believe that any reliable source may be used in any article. I guess that I will have to find a source that specifically compares the historical content of this film with history to suit you, the strict constructionist.--drb (talk) 17:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was never at all comfortable with the section, but respected it because it was sourced and it is hard to dispute with history. But in dealing with writing articles on film, I believe sources relating to the movie that mention facts not only verify them, but make them notable. If these sources do not mention the film, then is it important? What stops one from getting trivial and creating a poorly formatted povfork? Also, one can read articles about the real people. And to quote James Cameron, history is just what the people who saw it happen remember. Alientraveller (talk) 19:42, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response. Perhaps you may want to delete the section since everyone wants it deleted except me.--drb (talk) 19:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)--Drboisclair (talk) 14:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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As always I welcome your comments. I am glad you don't take my last edit concerning dates personally - it was certainly not directed at you. We just have this kind of discussion regularly (we had it a month ago, if you look at the talk page you will see another section that has been "compressed" in the same manner in December) and the same thing always happens - an anonymous user sucks serious editors into a useless (in that it will not lead to any change in the article) discussion that really wastes the valuable time of valued editors like yourself.

I am glad you are commenting on the recent edits to the lead, obviously the Christian POV must be represented accurately. My concern is that the lead must also be concise and clear. I fear that it is now too wordy. Also, I have no idea what a "confession" is in the context currently used.

Now, I agree that as a reader iof Wikipedia it is my responsibility to click on the links and learn more. My point is simply this: such details perhaps belong in the body and not the lead. If you can see a better way to edit the article so that the Christian POV is represented accurately and adequately in the lead, but as concisely and simply and clearly as possible, with any other details in an appropriate section in the body, I would welcome that. Best, 15:27, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't see a problem with removing the addition. I changed it because as it was it was wrong. I was simply trying to make better something that was flawed and problematic.--Drboisclair (talk) 01:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I just made a proposal here - your support is necessary, or could you propose an alternative? Slrubenstein | Talk 16:35, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 29 - March 2009

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 28 - November 2008 From the Coordinators As you can see, this is about as bare-bones of a newsletter as you can get. The reason for this is that the newsletter has and will be inactive, but we wanted to get a last one out detailing the current state of our project. The truth is that WP:NOVELS is in bad shape. Only a few editors are active in editing inside of our project. Our Peer Review section, this newsletter, our task forces, and our collaboration center are all dead; although a collab is picked each month, not a lot of work seems to occur. Out of these ashes, we are proposing that the project start an A-class review system. This will hopefully bring people together for reviewing, and will perhaps get the project some sorely-needed attention from others who can come in and help rehabilitate it. Final plans have not been established, but we will see about getting a mass message out to all of the project members if/when it is set up; discussion of this can be conducted on the General Forum. This newsletter will probably be the last we will have for a long time, as neither Ed nor Kevinalewis have the time to create these every month. However, if any editor is willing to step up and create one, we would be glad to assist you in making it up. If you don't want to create a newsletter, but would still like to help, there are plenty of things that can be done. As detailed on the right, the Novels Peer Review section has four articles needing attention, but only one review has been done; one from May, one from November, and one from December have not had any comments left on them. Please consider helping out there; even a 15-minute review would help. Your coords, –Kevinalewis (talk · contribs) and the_ed17 (talk · contribs) Member news Talk between Kevinalewis and the_ed17, the two project coordinators, has led to us deciding to suspend elections for coordinators indefinitely. With the exceedingly low amount of participation in the last elections (five total votes), we do not feel that it is worth it to try to set up another election. 20 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only do a position for a short time. Collaboration of the Month This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Shantaram (novel). The next collaboration is due for selection in April, so cast your vote. Peer review and assessment news Peer Reviews are still open for four articles – Sector General, Petals of Blood, Scenes of Clerical Life, and Flowers for Algernon. Feel free to submit any novel-related article that you are working on for review, but please consider stopping by and reviewing an article; we need more reviewers for our articles (there is a PR that has been open since May)! – the_ed17 (talk) Announcements and open tasks WikiProject Novels • (inc. novellas, novelettes & short stories) Announcements and open tasks (watch • edit • discuss • changes) → Please help with tagging articles! Critique (Featured article): 33 achieved Novels WikiProject Peer reviews: • Sector General • Petals of Blood • Flowers for Algernon Improve: Oberon Old and New • The Age of Reason • Furies of Calderon • Wolf Brother • The Monk • The English Patient • Bones of the Moon Create: To the Vanishing Point • Spoilt City Recently a new worklist had been created and quietly arrived, the Cleanup listing which gives a fairly comprehensive hit list of "novels" related articles that have been tagged for something or other. Since then a new Article alerts listing has also been added of more topic and "urgent" items worthy of our attention.

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I left a message on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Lutheranism#Martin_Luther and I would like to ask if you or User:Qp10qp are interested. I would help with whatever sources that I have in my university library. --RelHistBuff (talk) 11:14, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Please lend your thoughts to Talk:Irresistible grace#Calvinist vs. Lutheran view. Cheers! --Flex (talk/contribs) 14:06, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter Issue VII - April 2009 Project news The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 65 FAs, 7 FLs, and 146 GAs. That is a wonderful number, particularly of the GAs. Thanks to all those who worked on these articles! Secisek was interviewed by the Wikipedia Signpost in their 9 March 2009 issue here. Thank you for your great work in getting more attention to the project! Member news Our membership continues to expand. We are currently at a stunning 278 registered members. A profound thank you to all of you. Without your support and work, this project, and wikipedia itself, would not exist. Other news We have recently started a separate subpage of the project dedicated to keeping the members informed of the latest activities regarding FA and GA status, requests for peer review and comment, proposed deletions, and other article related activity. That information can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Article alerts. Please feel free to look at the page frequently and respond to any and all items posted there that you wish. Related projects news The Iglesia ni Cristo work group, Syriac Christianity work group, and Oriental Orthodoxy project are all currently being considered for restructuring. Any and all members of any of those groups are welcomed and encouraged to take part in the discussions. Christianity related news Pennsylvania Amish farmer jailed for outhouse violations Obama expands Bush's faith-based initiatives Relics of 39 saints found by British Museum From the Members Welcome to the Seventh, admittedly delayed, issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. Yes, it's been more than a bit of a rough time for some of us, okay, me, for a while here. Several things, most of them not real pleasant, kept coming up. I think most of that is over with know. I hope and pray as much anyway. Easter is the church's time of rebirth, and I hope it's a good time for the rebirth of this newsletter. I hope that the project grows in numbers and effectiveness as the church itself has over the years. Thanks again for all your efforts to date. Oh, yes, and please note that this section is entitled "From the Members". That means you, all of you. If any of you have any comments you'd like to share with the other members in this section, please feel free to let us know, and we'll put them in the next issue. We would encourage all members to get more involved and if you are wondering what with, please ask. Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. Thanks again. John Carter (talk), Lead Coordinator To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. This newsletter is automatically delivered by TinucherianBot (talk) 10:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On behalf of the Kindness campaign, I just wanted to wish my fellow Wikipedians a Happy Easter! Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 07:50, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to let you know that you can vote for or against Martin Bucer being the featured article at Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Martin_Bucer#Martin_Bucer. Thanks! --Epiphyllumlover (talk) 21:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, the Martin Bucer FAC was archived. In my opinion, this was closed too early. I have renominated it; would you please vote or leave a comment on the new FAC? See Talk:Martin Bucer and click on "leave comments". Thanks. --RelHistBuff (talk) 21:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter Issue VIII - May 2009 Project news The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 68 FAs, 7 FLs, and 146 GAs, which includes 3 more FAs. We did however lose one FL and 2 GAs over the past month, but we still basically broke even with the 3 new FAs. Member news With the additions of cindyrom4jesus at 69.254.33.66, User:Jwhosler, and User:Arverniking, we now have 281 listed members. Thanks to you all, and a special welcome to our new members! Other news There is some new discussion regarding project related activities, specifically including the various Christianity portals, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum and the possible expansion of the extant Narnia task force of WikiProject Novels. All input is more than welcome. . Related projects news The WikiProject Films has recently created a new task force for Christian films. All interested parties are welcome to join and contribute. Member contest of the month Anyone who can bring any of the few Stub class articles among the project's 1000 most often accessed articles by the end of the month will get an award. Please see the details Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity#Project challenge of the month. Christianity related news Pennsylvania Amish farmer jailed for outhouse violations Obama expands Bush's faith-based initiatives Relics of 39 saints found by British Museum From the Members Welcome to the Eighth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. Hello from the new Christian films task force! I was recently apart of founding a task force, so this is the story. For several months, I would not only contribute to Christian films, groups, etc., but I'd also see other users working on similar articles. I really wanted to create a project for us to work from. Filmcom contacted me about trying to get a task force going, so we began working together on it. When it appeared the idea was dying, we continued to fight, and several other users joined! Thanks to the efforts of many users, I'd like to introduce you to the Christian films task force! We are currently having a bot tag all Christian film-related articles, and we are working to define our project scope. We now have our own icon and shortcut (WP:CFTF), with ten users signed out thus far - these are just some of the things that have been happening in the last few days. If you have any interest in joining such a project, we welcome everyone to join and get involved. American Eagle (talk) To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. This newsletter is automatically delivered by TinucherianBot (talk) 13:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I hate to be a pain about this, but I really do feel that fair-use images, where free-use ones clearly do exist, only serve to prevent free-use images from being sought out. (As for myself: I've probably provided far more free-use images than the number of fair-use images I've ever suggested for removal: I'm currently working my way through a complete works of Sir Walter Scott from 1886-7.) I'm happy to try and search out replacements for the ones I've asked to be deleted - just shove a list on my talk page of those, and any others that need illustrated and I'll search them out. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 10:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, but I think that you will find with this novel, i.e., The Prairie that you will only find dark, plain covers that could be the cover of any book. Perhaps one could use the title page of the first edition, which one might get from Google books or something.--Drboisclair (talk) 00:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Don't neglect frontispieces. Any decent edition published before 1900 or so will probably have a scene from the novel engraved just inside the front cover. (I'm going to search some used bookstores for such from Black Arrow today or tomorrow) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 07:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This one? What possible scene can this illustrate? Isn't it just kind of, weird symbolism for the Wars of the Roses? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 07:07, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The May 2009 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 23:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter Issue IX - June 2009 Project news The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 72 FAs, 6 FLs, and 145 GAs, which includes 4 more FAs. We did however lose one FL and 1 GAs over the past month, but we still gained overall. Member news It was a big month for new members, with User:SixGreenFish, User:Invmog, User:Unconsumed, User:TheThankful, User:Noghiri, and User:1111tomica joining, bringing us up to 286 listed members. Thanks to you all, and a special welcome to our new members! Other news There is some new discussion regarding project related activities, specifically including the various Christianity portals, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum and the possible expansion of the extant Narnia task force of WikiProject Novels. All input is more than welcome. . Related projects news The WikiProject Films has recently created a new task force for Christian films. All interested parties are welcome to join and contribute. Member contest of the month Given the lateness of the newsletter last month, the contest from last month continues. Anyone who can bring any of the few Stub class articles among the project's 1000 most often accessed articles by the end of June will get an award. Please see the details Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity#Project challenge of the month. Christianity related news Pennsylvania Amish farmer jailed for outhouse violations Obama expands Bush's faith-based initiatives Relics of 39 saints found by British Museum From the Members Welcome to the Ninth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. I am in the process of going through the various categories related to Christianity. I am finding that several of them may not have sufficient number of members to continue. By the end of the month, I hope to have the main category list finished (yeah, it might take that long, it's huge). At that time, I think we will review all the categories and see which may not have sufficient articles to continue. Please feel free to take part in the discussion regading what the minimum number of category items is, and how to deal with the non-qualifying categories, on the General Forum page. John Carter (talk) 23:26, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply] To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. This newsletter is automatically delivered by -- Tinu Cherian - 11:35, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter Issue 30 - June 2009

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Novels WikiProject Newsletter Issue 30 - June 2009 Member news Coordinators election. An election has been long overdue, and therefore one will begin shortly. If you wish to stand, please put your name in by June 28, when voting will start. Members are encouraged to vote for the candidate they wish to support by July 21 at the Coordinator Elections. The Ed17 has decided not to stand for re-election. His work as Assistant Coordinator, along with Kevinalewis, since the last elections in October is highly appreciated by all members of the project. The Novels Project now has 128 active members. 17 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only fill a position for a short time. The His Dark Materials task force has been set up, and the role of coordinator has been undertaken by Pmlinediter. Project news On April 7, a fact about novelist Karin Bang appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On April 10, a fact about Pride and Prejudice and Zombies written by Seth Grahame-Smith appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On April 23, a fact about the protagonist Cousin Betty in Honoré de Balzac's La Cousine Bette appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. On April 25, a fact from the article Blanca Olmedo written by Lucila Gamero appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On June 9, a fact from The Fox and the Hound by Daniel P. Mannix appeared on the main page in the DYK section. On June 15, a fact from The Road to Yuba City by Tracy Kidder appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. - Contributors are Alan16, (who searched the archives). Task force and related news His Dark Materials task force has begun. This task force is dedicated to improving all articles in the scope of Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy. The main purpose of this taskforce is to expand, cite, and promote all articles in scope of the series. They welcome any advice or help that members of WikiProject Novels may be able to offer. If interested, drop a note on their talk page. – Position of editor for the task force has been undertaken by Pmlinediter. Peer review and assessment news Peer Reviews are still open for seven articles – The Last of the Masters, The Kindly Ones, Flowers for Algernon, World War Z, Sector General, Petals of Blood, and Scenes of Clerical Life. Feel free to submit any novel-related article that you are working on for review, and please consider stopping by and reviewing an article, as we need more reviewers for our articles! – the_ed17 (talk) and Alan16 (talk) Member in Focus Hi, I have been a member of this project for a few months now, and after finally gotten to grips with Wikipedia I have decided to take on the role of writing this newsletter (currently by myself, but any help would be appreciated) with some helpful tips from The Ed17. After undertaking this I realise why it was so difficult to keep it going. I will, however, persevere. From the members, I would encourage you to vote in the Coordinator elections, and take up roles at the Job Centre. The project has struggled recently, and I am hoping to try and revive it. If, with the publication of this newsletter, there are a couple of things that aren't quite up-to-date (like the Collaboration part), you can be certain I am working on it. I will be trying to get a newsletter out on around the 21st of every month. Finally, thanks for the help Ed. Regards, Alan16 (talk) 23:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply] Current debates A Kenneth Oppel task force has been proposed. You can comment here. Oppel is a Canadian author who specialises in Young adult fiction. Novel related news American writer Michael Hemp wins the 2009 Next Generation Indie Book Award in the Action/Adventure category for his novel, The Nadjik Pheromone. From the Outreach Department This is my first attempt at the newsletter, and I hope it at least gets close to the previous high standards set by Kevinalewis and The Ed17. I will once again encourage you to vote in the Coordinator elections, as I hope it could be the springboard to revitalise the project. I'll keep working on the newsletter, partially because I like the stress, and partially because we need it to get members and would-be members interested. Hopefully the start of great things. Regards, Alan. Collaboration of the Month Because there has been little activity on our Collaboration page for a long time, I have made an executive decision, and chosen The Tin Drum as our Collaboration of the month. All members are asked to assist where they can. The next collaboration is due for selection on 21 July, 2009 so nominate and vote. Newsletter challenge This month's article is Mindplayers by science fiction author Pat Cadigan. It is a previous, uncompleted challenge. Announcements and open tasks WikiProject Novels • (inc. novellas, novelettes & short stories) Announcements and open tasks (watch • edit • discuss • changes) → Please help with tagging articles! Critique (Featured article): 33 achieved Novels WikiProject Peer reviews: • Sector General • Petals of Blood • Flowers for Algernon Improve: Oberon Old and New • The Age of Reason • Furies of Calderon • Wolf Brother • The Monk • The English Patient • Bones of the Moon Create: To the Vanishing Point • Spoilt City Recently a new worklist had been created and quietly arrived, the Cleanup listing which gives a fairly comprehensive hit list of "novels" related articles that have been tagged for something or other. Since then a new Article alerts listing has also been added of more topic and "urgent" items worthy of our attention.

Hello. To begin, every member of WikiProject Novels will be getting this message (the joy of macros) so if you wish to get in touch with me, please post a message on my talk page. I would encourage anyone who so wishes, to stand in the Coordinator Elections. If you wish to stand, please do so by 23:59pm, June 27. Voting will the continue to 23:59pm, July 21. Can everyone please check-out the Coordinator Elections page. Also, the collaboration of the month is The Tin Drum, so if you have any spare time, please check it out. And I apologise to the seven of you for whom this will be a repeat message. Regards, Alan16 (talk).

Hello. To begin, every member of WikiProject Novels will be getting this message (the joy of macros) so if you wish to get in touch with me, please post a message on my talk page. I would encourage anyone who so wishes, to stand in the Coordinator Elections. If you wish to stand, please do so by 23:59pm, June 27. Voting will the continue to 23:59pm, July 21. Can everyone please check-out the Coordinator Elections page. Also, the collaboration of the month is The Tin Drum, so if you have any spare time, please check it out. And I apologise to the seven of you for whom this will be a repeat message. Regards, Alan16 (talk).

Hello. The Coordiantor Election has begun. All members are encouraged to vote by the deadline, July 28. To vote simply add support to the comments and questions for.. section of the member of your choice.

3 users are standing:

• Alan16 (talk · contribs)
• Kevinalewis (talk · contribs)
• Pmlinediter (talk · contribs)

Regards, Alan16 (talk) 19:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC).[reply]

The June 2009 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 08:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter Issue X - July 2009 Project news The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 76 FAs, 8 FLs, and 148 GAs. We gained new recognized content in each field, with 4 FAs promoted, 2 FLs, and 3 GAs. Congratulations and a big thank you to all those who worked on these articles! Member news It was a big month for new members, with User:RandomNumberSee, User:Per Ardua, User:Muzhogg, User:Arlen22, User:Scotchorama, and User:Jaybird vt joining, bringing us up to 292 listed members. Thanks to you all, and a special welcome to our new members! Other news I am still working on the categorization matter. With any luck, we should have some results by the end of the month. There are also some discussions regarding project related activities at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum. One issue in particular that might be addressed is possible elections of new coordinators. Anyone interested in serving in such a capacity is more than welcome to indicate as much. Related projects news The WikiProject Films has recently created a new task force for Christian films. All interested parties are welcome to join and contribute. Member contest of the month The previous contests are still ongoing, because of the extreme amount of time the categorization is taking me. Anyone who can bring any of the few Stub class articles among the project's 1000 most often accessed articles by the end of July will get an award. Please see the details Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity#Project challenge of the month. Christianity related news Pennsylvania Amish farmer jailed for outhouse violations Obama expands Bush's faith-based initiatives Relics of 39 saints found by British Museum From the Members Welcome to the Tenth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. It has been a long time since the last coordinators election. There is a lot for people to do, and I certainly would welcome seeing any individuals with an interest in such a position put themselves forward as candidates. I in particular would very much like to see some degree of "specialization" in the coordinators, so that, for instance, we might have someone knowledgable about some of the specific Christian faith traditions or other main subjects, like Orthodoxy, Lutheranism, Mormonism, the Jehovah's Witnesses, art, theology, and so on. If any parties who have experience with some of our faith- or- subject-based content would be interested in being candidates, I would love to see them do so. Please feel free to take part in the discussion regading what the minimum number of category items is, and how to deal with the non-qualifying categories, on the General Forum page. John Carter (talk) 23:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply] To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. This newsletter is automatically delivered by ~~~~

The July 2009 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Alan16(talk)

The July 2009 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 00:49, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter Issue XI - August 2009 Project news The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 75 FAs, 8 FLs, and 147 GAs, with a net loss of one FA and one GA. Our thanks to those who helped keep some other articles listed, and to those who have worked so diligently in improving all of our articles. Member news Three new members joined this past month, including new members User:116Calvinist, User:Lrnngrbc, and User:Frazz, bringing us up to 295 listed members. Thanks to you all, and a special welcome to our new members! Other news Two new pages for the benefit of members of the project have been created. Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Mutual aid society is designed to be a place where editors seeking specific assistance from other members can with luck find others who have the abilities or materials they need, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Special collections is, at this point, the beginnings of a list of publicly accessible special collections libraries which our members might find useful. Anyone who lives near one of the collections listed is encouraged to visit them and see if they can find anything they would like to read or use to improve some of our articles. There are always some discussions regarding project related activities at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum. I think the timing of the call for elections might have been bad (summer vacation, what was I thinking?), and have thus changed the period for individuals to run to be one of the project's coordinators. Individuals who have a particular interest or knowledge of specific fields within Christianity are encouraged to run, to serve as a kind of "unit coordinator" for that topic. Related projects news The WikiProject Films has recently created a new task force for Christian films. All interested parties are welcome to join and contribute. Christianity related news Pennsylvania Amish farmer jailed for outhouse violations Obama expands Bush's faith-based initiatives Relics of 39 saints found by British Museum From the Members Welcome to the Eleventh issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. One area in particular need of attention right now is the content related to the Oriental Orthodox churches. Several of the topics within this field are of great importance, including the churches themselves, their histories, thinking, and some of the individuals associated with it. Unfortunately, the number of people who belong to the churches, and, correspondingly, the number of editors working on that content, is smaller than it could be. Anyone interested in helping to develop this content is more than welcome to look at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Oriental Orthodoxy page and seeing where they can help out. John Carter (talk) 23:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply] To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. This newsletter is automatically delivered by -- Tinu Cherian BOT - 19:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! You would be glad to know that a new wikipedia ad has been created by Srinivas to encourage users to join Chronicles of Narnia Task Force. You can display that ad on your user/talk page too using the following code: ((Wikipedia ads|ad=190))

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The August 2009 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Alan16 (talk) 17:26, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The August 2009 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 03:42, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear colleague, I just want to wish you a happy, hopefully, extended holiday weekend and nice end to summer! Your friend, --A Nobody^{My talk} 05:48, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The September 2009 project coordinator election has begun. We will be selecting seven coordinators from a pool of candidates to serve for the next six months; members can still nominate themselves if interested. Please vote here by September 28! This message has been sent as you are registered as an active member of the project. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 01:38, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The September 2009 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 06:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As Halloween is my favorite holiday, I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Halloween! Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 18:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The October 2009 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. The newsletter includes details on the current membership roll call to readd your name from the inactive list to the active list. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:57, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lieber David, on this weekend I am sitting in a symposium a meeting to the topic Rainer Wolffhardt, which is the director of the Lutherfilm BRD 1983. I know we talked about it and you have the film. If you will send me until saturday evening questions, possible I can asked him something from America. I suppose a good question would be why dosn't exist an English subtitle. etc. Oh, look again on my site I suppose that soon I will have finished the articles to the Lutherfilms. Ok here and there I will expand the articles. Please answer me on my site or via email. with friendly greetings Sönke--Soenke Rahn (talk) 20:19, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, the symposium was very interesting I got an autograph. And I asked him some things. And this was very interesting, too. with friendly greetings, Sönke --Soenke Rahn (talk) 20:21, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 06:43, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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To those who make Good Arguments, who are appreciative, or supportive. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 21:07, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 21:58, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion going on whether the name of that German church body can be translated or not (it appears like this on the english pages of this church's homepage). One user changed the name of this Church (actually a federation of several Lutheran, United and Reformed churches) and it's regional member churches to the German form because he says their names can't get translated. so the article on the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Bavaria now appears under its German name because he says the "concept" can't be translated into English. Please go to the discusson page of the Evangelical Church in Germany and have your say --93.130.249.56 (talk) 02:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking part in this discussion. You should nevertheless be aware of the fact that the discussion takes place under "recent move" und read the reasoning for both sides there first. The last paragraph "new title" was added by someone who was not aware of the fact that this is still an ongoing discussion, --77.181.10.178 (talk) 21:10, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo David,

1. can you look on the english Luther Bible article, please look on the talk page first. 2. To the question "evanglic, evangelical or protestant". Evangelisch is a word which used Luther for his sheeps, instead Lutherans, because he never want that Christians will named after him. The classical translation to German "Evangelisch" is "evangelical" but today there exists sometimes differences between the German word "Evangelikal" (which is an American reimport) und "Evangelisch". But you can mail me. ... 3. Yes, I did not forgot it. 50 Percent is complete, but I need a little bit time, because a lot of university-stress in the moment. I hope all is well, with friendly greetings, Sönke --Soenke Rahn (talk) 03:20, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So I suppose 100 percent is complete, I wrote you a mail today. This is more important, than wikipedia. (-: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soenke Rahn (talk • contribs) 23:04, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lieber David, I will see that I will go to town and so on ... To this topic we should discuss via e-mail, again. Because these things are very complicated. The discussion in general is complicated, beside what we thing - Nobody is perfect. I live in Germany and I can say you how the people will tic toc realy. But there is no hurry. No - but "I" can't influence the time and change the time. But I will write you next week, again, because I am in hurry. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Sönke --Soenke Rahn (talk) 11:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you are still active, Dave, please help develop the new Matthew C. Harrison article. I'm back to do this one, but not much longer. Too busy.

Thanks!

user:CTSWyneken

Hi. I noticed you removed the tag I added here. Can you give some kind of rationale for that please? Normally one wouldn't remove a tag unless one believed it had been added in error or one intended to improve the article. Best wishes, --John (talk) 17:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believed that this entry had "notability," and I believe that such a tag was a subjective judgment on the article.--Drboisclair (talk) 05:36, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it will help if you take a look at WP:NSONGS? After having read that, would you really contend that this song is notable? --John (talk) 06:59, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If an entry has verification and is presented NPOV it should be allowed to stand without the subjective opinion of some that it is not "notable." This "notability guideline" should not be allowed to censor what a majority thinks is not "notable." This whole modus operandi works against the extension of knowledge. I am opposed to deleting something because someone thinks that it is not "notable," whatever that means. This "notability" fad is a pretext to simply delete what an editor does not like.--Drboisclair (talk) 14:08, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So you disagree with the principle "A topic is deemed appropriate for inclusion if it complies with WP:NOT and has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources."? --John (talk) 21:00, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Like many I am bitterly opposed to such a subjective stalking horse for an elite group of editors to simply delete what they do not like. What is "significant coverage"? What is "reliable secondary sources"? WP:NOT is a GUIDELINE NOT a policy, and deleting material merely because they violate this contorversial guideline is unjust, bigoted, POV, and elitist. So to answer your question simply: YES. However, just go ahead and use your guideline to delete what you jolly well please to delete: I won't edit war you. Let's let the fad play out.--Drboisclair (talk) 06:14, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This user rejects using notability as a criterion for inclusion on Wikipedia

Hi. I noticed you removed the tag I added here. Can you give some kind of rationale for that please? Normally one wouldn't remove a tag unless one believed it had been added in error or one intended to improve the article. Best wishes, --John (talk) 17:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believed that this entry had "notability," and I believe that such a tag was a subjective judgment on the article.--Drboisclair (talk) 05:36, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it will help if you take a look at WP:NSONGS? After having read that, would you really contend that this song is notable? --John (talk) 06:59, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If an entry has verification and is presented NPOV it should be allowed to stand without the subjective opinion of some that it is not "notable." This "notability guideline" should not be allowed to censor what a majority thinks is not "notable." This whole modus operandi works against the extension of knowledge. I am opposed to deleting something because someone thinks that it is not "notable," whatever that means. This "notability" fad is a pretext to simply delete what an editor does not like.--Drboisclair (talk) 14:08, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So you disagree with the principle "A topic is deemed appropriate for inclusion if it complies with WP:NOT and has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources."? --John (talk) 21:00, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To give you the short answer, YES, I do disagree with it as I disagree with the whole bloody concept of "notability": 5 years ago the rage was POV/NPOV, now it is "notability." I guess that Wikipedia must be running out of webspace, so a new pretext for the deletionists has to be pushed. Not that I am opposed to the concept of NPOV, but those who push "notability" are not following that POLICY. I am thankful that this fad of "Notability" is not a policy yet. What is "significant coverage" and "reliable secondary sources."? Just go ahead and put your "notability" tag back, and delete the article. Maybe since the webspace is at a premium more should be deleted. I simply am disgusted with using this nebulous concept of "notability" BY ITSELF to simply delete something.--Drboisclair (talk) 06:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I took another look at the article with the thought in mind of reversing my action, but I stand by my first statement. Since I am bitterly opposed to "notability" as a guideline or anything else on Wikipedia, I really have no business making a judgment on "notability." Perhaps the tag could be reimposed without the threat of deletion, then those who have composed the article can see if they can come up with appropriate material to satisfy this nebulous concept to your satisfaction. If you reipose your tag, I will not touch it anymore.--Drboisclair (talk) 06:47, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that is reasonable. The concept of notability is not mine alone but has been reached as a consensus across the project. The project consensus is that songs do not necessarily need a stand-alone article. There is no likelihood of deletion; what will happen if the notability concerns cannot be addressed in a reasonable timescale is that the article would be redirected to the parent album. Best wishes, --John (talk) 15:09, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dear John, Thanks for your friendly conversation on my talk page. I appreciate all of the volunteer work you devote to Wikipedia. I know you have all the best intentions as a fellow editor and administrator.--Drboisclair (talk) 17:14, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Christian in Pilgrim's Progress.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --ARTEST4ECHO ^{(talk|contribs)} 15:32, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This image is from a book printed in 1913, so it is in the public domain. What proof do you need other than that?--Drboisclair (talk) 04:47, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hallo, I have the article enlarged again. I suppose that I will finish the article de:Lutherfilm to the Reformation Day - (so that the article will be to 98% Complete). Gaps in the moment: 1. an english Luthermovie 2. A German Documentation to the 2003 Luthermovie 3. One or Some english Documentations to Martin Luther. -- Know I can say that I counted 19 Luthermovies - One Film is unfinished (de:Martin Luther (Helga Schütz)). --- In the moment raindrops knocking on the window ---- with friendly greetings, Sönke --Soenke Rahn (talk) 19:46, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Luther film a first version in simple English

Happy Reformation Day and Halloween Night. (-: Sönke --Soenke Rahn (talk) 20:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Soenke, und zu dir auch!--Drboisclair (talk) 04:58, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It snows and it seems to be that there will no end with it. The grass is almost not to see. (-: with friendly greetings Sönke --Soenke Rahn (talk) 07:44, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Best to you, mein Freund.--Drboisclair (talk) 14:39, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can always add that source as a second reference right after the first one. Since I haven't read it, I think it would be disingenuous for me to do so.

I understand that the provenance of The Dark Tower has been definitely established now as really being by Lewis in spite of Kathryn Lindskoog's cavils to the contrary.

I have prior to this done quite a bit of editing on the main parent "Narnia" article, but haven't really looked at the other WP articles on two books of the space trilogy. Re Narnia I in particular did a lot with Reception: influence of religious viewpoints and a bit on Chronicles_of_Narnia#Influences_on_Narnia, Race, and Paganism--WickerGuy (talk) 13:57, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We have begun a new initiative at the WikiProject Novels: an improvement drive. As a member listed here, you are being notified. Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels#5-5-5 Improvement Drive and Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Collaboration for more details. Also I would like to remind you to keep an eye on the project talk page at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels. Thanks, Sadads (talk) 02:23, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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If you drop by Wikipedia and would like something interesting to do, the Reu page needs help. I don't have much editing time these days. ;-) CTSWyneken (talk) 16:54, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:The Worms Luther Statue.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:51, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I recently removed several links from the Martin Luther page, which you then reverted. I am sorry if I overstepped my bounds. I am new to this. What is a good way to tell if a link is valuable or not? I have read WP:LINKS, but I am still a bit unsure. After looking over my changes, I agree that I went too far. However, I still feel that there are too many links. For example, there are multiple links to the page "Outlaw", but that, to me, seems not to be related at all. Also, there seem to be far too many links to the page about Johann Tetzel. Or does the length of the article merit more links to the same page simply for convenience? As I said, I am not sure on particulars, so any advice you could give me so I don't repeat my mistakes in the future would be appreciated. Thanks! DopplerRadioShow (talk) 07:00, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I don't know whether you realise but Martin Luther has been brought up at WP:GAR. The only concern is the citation needed tags in the "Start of the reform" section. As you are obviously familiar with the article you may be able to fix those tags. If that is done so I am sure it will be kept. If not it is likely to be delisted. Cheers AIRcorn (talk) 03:02, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think you have misunderstood my intentions. If you read this page Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Martin Luther/1 you will see these concerns have been raised by another editor. If you look at the "Start of the reform" section you will see some [citation needed] tags. I was hoping you might be able to find references for them. As you have a graduate masters degree in Luther studies it should be a lot easier for you to do so than me. I have no intention of reverting or changing the article at all, it is just that for an article to be classed Good it must be well referenced. My only other action in relation to this article will be to recommend removing or keeping the Good article status (basically the green dot in the top right corner), and that will be determined by how the citation needed tags are resolved. Feel free to leave a comment at the Martin Luther Good article reassessment page. AIRcorn (talk) 08:14, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I misunderstood, although what you were aiming at is plain in your message aboveDrboisclair (talk) 15:06, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. If you can help out at the reassessment it would be appreciated. It would be a shame to delist this article because of a few missing cites. AIRcorn (talk) 00:53, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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