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there is already a black one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:CDU/CSU/meta/color . This one supposed to be orange. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Christian_Democratic_Union_of_Germany/meta/color CDU/CSU = Black, CSU Only = Blue, CDU Only = Orange Michaelm (talk)

@Michaelm: Please discuss this on the talk page. Follow the process at WP:BRD, please. You've already made the bold edits and been reverted; please start a discussion. Ezhao02 (talk) 14:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this, I thought it was fine so it would look better with the full party name without splitting up and the German wording is already smaller. By the way, I would like for you to please read and tell me what you think about this discussion. I believe that if my edit was reverted, maybe theirs should be too because they made the infoboxes too large by the unnecessary use of nowrap template. Thank you.--Davide King (talk) 18:30, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Davide King: The issue I had with the edit on the SPD page was that it made the English text the same size as the German text, which isn't consistent with the style in most infoboxes. Regarding the Lib Dem page, I'd like to try a computer with a smaller screen before taking a position. However, I do have a few comments:

• I agree with Helper201's point about the date splitting for Labour. Clearly, it would be preferable for a line break to occur immediately after teh semicolon. However, my understanding is that the date and age is a template, so this would have to be changed in the template.
• I do think that ideologies should generally be nowrapped. However, I don't think it's necessary when only one ideology is listed (though I won't oppose having nowrap if others want it), and I would make exceptions for certain pages (e.g., the South Tyrolean People's Party and the Swedish People's Party of Finland), where the ideologies listed are too long to fit on a single line.
• You're absolutely right that we need to use less references in infoboxes—in fact, MOS:INFOBOXREF says to avoid using references in the infobox. However, it's important to remember that without these citations, infoboxes are more likely to encounter unsourced changes or removals, so it might be better to limit the number of sources used instead (perhaps to 2 or 3 reliable sources per ideology if necessary).

I hope these comments help. I'll get back to you when I use a different computer. Ezhao02 (talk) 19:56, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ezhao02, thanks for your response! That is all fair and well, but I do not see why we should not respect the original size of the infobox. While I do agree about using the nowrap for Ideologies, I only support it to make it just slightly bigger, but both Labour Party (UK) and Liberal Democrats (UK) are way bigger. If this is such a big issue, we should ask for the infobox to be made bigger by default; until then, we should respect its current size.--Davide King (talk) 20:03, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I just checked those pages. I think the Labour Party article's infobox is wayyyyyyyyyy too big. I think the Lib Dem article's infobox is also too big, but it's not as bad as the one for the Labour Party. Ezhao02 (talk) 20:06, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. We should respect the default infobox size and at best use nowrap only for ideologies.--Davide King (talk) 20:19, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't say we should limit it to ideologies, since there may be cases where something that isn't too long needs to be nowrapped. But yes, we should avoid expanding the infobox width by too much. Ezhao02 (talk) 20:45, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But then why not simply ask for the infobox to be made bigger? I do not really see an issue for why nowrap needs to be used so much; there are other ways we can use without using nowrap. Both Labour and Liberal Democrats' ideologies fit just enough well without splitting or using the nowrap, so I hope you can make them both revert to their original size.--Davide King (talk) 21:46, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I agree with you that nowrap is overused. Perhaps the template should make the infoboxes slightly wider, but not by much: on small screens (especially laptop screens), these expanded infoboxes may take up more than half the width of the page! Pages like the SVP, which I mentioned earlier; SYRIZA; and the two British pages you mentioned are all too wide right now.

I just found out that for the start date and age template, you can add |br=yes to the template to fix the issue Helper201 mentioned. I've implemented this on the Labour party page. Ezhao02 (talk) 22:05, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did not know about that; it is good to know, so one problem is out. I agree they should only be slighty wider at best and we can use the template below, as at Labour Party (UK), as comparison. We also need to find a way to add those informations in the infoboxes without making them wider. That is why I proposed to create a few more parameters to accomodate that, because factions are put anyway, so we might as well add a parameter to them; and in the case of the SVP, we have (minority) in the infobox that makes it uselessly wider when that could be avoid by moving it directly to Factions.--Davide King (talk) 22:40, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Well, I don't have an universal answer for that, but I've come to use the short URL name (i.e., www.parties-and-elections.eu as you put it) in the website field, then the actual site name as "publisher=". The examples at Template:Cite_web#Examples are weird because, for example, there the one that uses "NFL Football Operations" for the website (which is a made-up name derived from the url itself) then "National Football League" as the publisher. The Template documentation data says on this field that it should contain the title (name) of the website (or its short URL if no plain-language title is discernible); may be wikilinked; will display in italics. Having both 'publisher' and 'website' is redundant in many cases. In the end, I think it depends: you should probably use the 'website' field if you are intent on displaying the sort URL. If not, it may end up as redundant if you also use the 'publisher' field. Impru20^talk 16:00, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Impru20: Thanks for the response. Personally, I prefer using the website name. Any thoughts? Ezhao02 (talk) 16:25, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Vox has been proclaimed and auto-proclaimed liberal-conservative several times. Here you have some references:

• https://www.elconfidencialdigital.com/articulo/politica/vox-declara-liberal-conservador-francia/20190318170647123153.html
• https://latribunadelpaisvasco.com/art/11885/vox-entre-el-liberalismo-conservador-y-la-derecha-identitaria
• https://www.vozpopuli.com/opinion/encrucijada-Vox-partido-derecha_0_1325268653.html
• https://posmodernia.com/resena-de-vox-entre-el-liberalismo-conservador-y-la-derecha-identitaria/

Curiously, I couldn't find any reliable reference in English (though a couple of them said they were neo-liberal), and all the news articles were almost identically, like if all the international information about Vox came from the same agency. --Viktaur (talk) 12:23, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Viktaur: The first article is saying that Vox called itself liberal-conservative. We try to avoid using primary sources on Wikipedia, especially for things like this. The other three refer to the same source: an essay by Pedro Carlos González Cuevas stating that Vox has to choose between liberal conservatism and the radical right. Clearly, this source is not saying that Vox is necessarily liberal-conservative right now but only saying that it could be in the future. Thus, this source shouldn't be used to describe Vox as liberal-conservative, although it definitely should be mentioned somewhere int he article. Ezhao02 (talk) 12:51, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey,

Sorry about the revert, I thought you added "populism" to the info box. Per Talk:Progress_Party_(Norway)#RfC and references therein, the Progress Party should not be described as "Populist" in Wikipedia's voice. Not sure if this applies to categories or not. Heptor (talk) 20:44, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Heptor: No worries. Skimming through the talk page, it seems like there's no consensus either way. I hope this can be resolved soon. Thanks, Ezhao02 (talk) 23:32, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, you believe that the Progress Party belongs on the radical right? Why? Not like you'll see Siv Jensen marching down with the skinheads in Berlin. She was however criticized for dressing up as a Native American for Haloween. Heptor (talk) 15:48, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Heptor: Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I was just saying that some people do consider the Progress Party radical right, although I recognize that the Progress Party is one of the most moderate of parties with such tendencies. Certainly, the FrP's case is much more complex than, say, the National Rally, since, as I mentioned on the talk page, FrP has the divide between libertarian and more nationalist-leaning members. Ezhao02 (talk) 20:37, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying your position Ezhao02. It looks like the libertarian wing had the upper hand lately. At least they seem to be running the home page, it literally says The Progress Party is a libertarian party in the first paragraph. Heptor (talk) 22:10, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The libertarian wing certainly holds the positions of power within the party right now, but I think the more nationalist-leaning wing is still an important part of the party and should be mentioned. Ezhao02 (talk) 22:21, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it is important, and yes, it is mentioned in the section Ideology and political positions :) Heptor (talk) 10:46, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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