Apologies, but once a week is not nearly enough to lock a page. If it gets to several times a day, let me know. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 14:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
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I see that your opinion that notability is a silly criterion is affecting your editing style, and very much to the detriment of the encyclopedia I think. Notability is important because we exist here to serve our readers. We want to give them useful, relevant information, not just a complete data dump. Your original research into dozens of people who used to work at Blizzard is a very good example of why we need to think about notability.
An encyclopedia is not a data dump. It serves to give readers a quick essential summary of what they want and need to know. In order to do this effectively, we must exercise careful and thoughtful editorial judgment, and one part of editorial judgment is an understanding that treating irrelevant data as on equal footing with the essentials, is confusing and a disservice to the reader.--Jimbo Wales 16:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
1. I did not add the initial information, I only found the sources for the information. 2. They are in fact verifiable, as you can see per my sources. 3. I felt removing the section was detrimental to the actual article. Sure, it can be cut down, but not cut out. At least in my opinion. You, like everyone else on Wikipedia, are allowed to voice your view and concern about any article. Which is what I did in this case. I wish to keep this section in some form, seeing as Blizzard Entertainment has spawned a whole slew of companies that have made many great games, and believe it or not, that is actually something that can work in advantage to the article and the information there in. I look forward to hearing more from you on this topic. Believe me when I say I do understand your concerns, but there are other ways around this without removing information. Cheers. Havok (T/C/c) 22:59, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
What I think would make sense, then, is a very simple paragraph stating the facts. A detailed list of past employees is not at all relevant. But can you find a third party source which tells us that Blizzard has been in some way unique in the game industry as a spawning ground for other companies? Personally, I very strongly doubt it. The entire software industry, from Microsoft to Google and beyond, has had a strong tradition of enterpreneurialism. The normal cycle is that a core team makes a ton of money on stock options from early participation in a success, and go off to pursue new projects on their own, in groups with people they knew. Why is this remarkable in the case of Blizzard? I think the answer is: it is not. But if you have a source which says otherwise, then a short paragraph noting that Blizzard has been important in this regard can be sensible.--Jimbo Wales 23:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I haven't been subject to you deleting any of the external links that I've added (and generally I agree with you about the site not being a link site but an information site). I'm curious, though, because I've been tempted to delete a few external links myself, in particular where it's purely something like a musical artist (since that's mostly what I'm here for) and it's their RSS fee added as its own external link.
Do you think these deserve to be here?
Just curious
--lincalinca 09:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I figured out who is doing all the link changes on the vBulletin page... Read the talk page for that, information is there. Can we do something about this guy? He's just abusing things. Joeychgo 17:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)Joeychgo
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(Re-posting my response to your reply on the AfD.)
Havok, you seem to consistently forget that cleaning up an article is not the responsibility of the people who think it should be deleted. You also overlook that this is a discussion about deleting an article. The comment you replied to was stating why they thought the article should be deleted, as they are supposed to. If someone disagrees, then it is up to THEM to put the proof in the article, which I note that despite making snotty comments about to other people, you yourself never do. So if I were you I would either practice what I preach and clean-up the article myself, seeing as it's you who disagrees with the AfD, or, if your not prepared to do that, stop making snotty little copy+paste comments in AfDs when someone says why they think an article should be deleted. The Kinslayer 11:53, 30 October 2006 (UTC)