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	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	Now that I've gotten off your shoulders and got RAL-approved, here's a barnstar for painstakingly patrolling >100 redirects I created. 〜 Festucalex • talk 22:38, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Festucalex: Thank you so much for the barnstar AND for putting in the work of creating all of those! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:22, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! 〜 Festucalex • talk 15:33, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for the nomination Pyeongchang (talk) 10:55, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Pyeongchang: Many thanks for your contributions, in both quality and quantity. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:23, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Saints1984DraftPicks has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:31, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

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Who decides what is notable and what isn't? It's utter nonsense. Every sports tournament or any subject on Wikipedia could be notable enough to be an article. Don't go on any of my articles and say that it's not notable enough, because it is completely subjective. Personally, I will be watching many games of the 2023–24 LEN Challenger Cup, so I think it fully exceeds Notability requirements. It's called the Free Encyclopedia for a reason. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 14:15, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ILoveSport2006: I believe you should read over Wikipedia:Notability. Just because something exists does not necessarily mean it should exist on Wikipedia. Additionally, I highly encourage you to read WP:OWN, as no articles are "yours". Hey man im josh (talk) 14:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

European club competitions in each season should be an article. Why do you think your opinion is more important than others when it comes to what is notable. The articles that I created or have edited could have problems, but to say that essentially it shouldn't exist is not just subjective, but nonsense. How would you like it if I went on an article you made or edited and said I don't care about this, so this article shouldn't exist. I will not be replying to you again about this subject because you have no facts to back your point and all your arguments you made are fully subjective, not factual. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 14:32, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ILoveSport2006: First off, tone the hostility back, it's entirely unnecessary. "The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for sports and athletics. -- the tag I placed states that there is a chance that the article may not meet notability guidelines. I have not placed a scathing indictment on the article or said "this is a piece of garbage that shouldn't exist". It's a tag meant to indicate that this article could use some improvement to better signal that the subject of the article is notable. I have not nominated the article for deletion, I placed this tag on an article with a single reference from a primary source (the tournament's host). I added a tag because the article contains very poor sourcing, is two sentences long, refers to a third tier of a sports league (which may indicate questionable notability), and is the second season of a new league. That's perfectly reasonable and you're welcome to remove the questionable notability tag. What you're not welcome to do is attack editors.

How would you like it if I went on an article you made or edited and said I don't care about this, so this article shouldn't exist. -- That is entirely your right, and I respect your right to do so in a civil manner. If you believe any of the articles or redirects I've created should not exist on Wikipedia, then please nominate them for deletion at WP:AFD or WP:RFD.

Why do you think your opinion is more important than anybody else's? You yourself acknowledge that the articles you've created have issues, and I am adding the appropriate tags to point out said issues so that they may addressed. I'd again like to encourage you to read over WP:Notability and WP:Civil before attacking other editors. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:44, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On the my opinion is more important argument, I am not the one putting notability tags on other people's articles. If I come across as hostile, it's because I think that notability tag was really hurtful. From someone who likes so many sports tournaments, and thinks they're boring to everyone else, I get hurt by comments like that because it brings back my insecurities. I am not like other people on Wikipedia, I will make these articles and finish them and make them really good. I did the 2022–23 LEN Challenger Cup article from scratch and I'm really proud of it. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 15:01, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ILoveSport2006: "on other people's articles" – They belong to nobody, tags should be placed whenever and wherever appropriate. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, which means you need to conduct yourself appropriately and communicate with others in a civil manner. You are responsible for your own actions. I'd like to re-iterate that I have no nominated any of the articles you created for deletion. If you want to avoid your articles being nominated by editors then you should expand them to include additional sources. As it stands, most of the articles you've written contain either no citations or contain mostly references that are from the tournament host's website (primary sources). I encourage you to look at WP:SPORTBASIC and to add secondary sources to the pages you've created before moving on to create more pages. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:08, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

While I am thankful none of my articles have been deleted, you seriously can't give me a bit of sympathy after I told you about my insecurities. I tried to show you why I reacted like that and that's all you give me back.

I'm tired of speaking about this so I'm going to end with a few points I want to share.

• Don't say I am attacking editors because every other editor has been nice to me outside of you.
• Saying that anyone can nominate anyone's articles for deletion is not just sad but could create a toxic atmosphere
• I love editing on Wikipedia, so threatening an autistic kid by saying their editing options could be restricted is really bad (you said that on my talk page, not here).
• Unlike what you say, 99% of things that exist in the world could (and should) be an article if possible.
• Finally, this quote is on your home page I may not like the criticism you have to offer, but I'll listen to it to try to improve and do better. I hope you never put a notability tag on anyone's article because it's completely subjective.

I am working on the articles and editing them almost every day, you can say they are not my articles, but when I am the only one that edits them, it's difficult not to think that.

From now on, just leave me alone to do my own editing and creating. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 17:38, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ILoveSport2006: I've informed you of things in a neutral and respectful way so I'm sorry if you choose to take them a different way. To respond to your various points:

• Don't say I am attacking editors because every other editor has been nice to me outside of you. -- I have not been rude to you, I have responded calmly despite your unnecessary incivility.
• Saying that anyone can nominate anyone's articles for deletion is not just sad but could create a toxic atmosphere -- Sorry, but this is how Wikipedia works. Anybody, at any time, can nominate an article for deletion if they believe the article is not fit for Wikipedia, but they should obviously only do do based on relevant grounds. See WP:DELETION.
• I love editing on Wikipedia, so threatening an autistic kid by saying their editing options could be restricted is really bad (you said that on my talk page, not here). -- No one has threatened you. You received a standard boiler plate message that your removal of the relevant tags from articles was disruptive. As discussed, leave tags such as Template:One source when the article only contains sourcing from a single source.
• Unlike what you say, 99% of things that exist in the world could (and should) be an article if possible. -- I do not make the policies and I'm sorry if you don't agree with Wikipedia's WP:Notability guidelines.
• Finally, this quote is on your home page ... I hope you never put a notability tag on anyone's article because it's completely subjective. -- I've explained the purpose of the tag, my rationale for applying the tag, and how the application of the tag was appropriate in context. You have not offered any constructive criticism, you've simply stated "I don't like it" and have told me to stop. I will continue to apply the tag when an article has questionable notability.

Lastly, I will re-iterate that no one owns articles on Wikipedia, despite how you may feel. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:50, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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In case you didn't see my message from last night. Thank you! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:51, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Liz, I did see your message and actually responded to it. You didn't receive an on-wiki notification though since I replied directly. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:55, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Josh!, I hope you're having a nice time.

I'm writing to you because I know that you are a great Wikipedia contributor and I want to ask you if you can help me and protect the 2011 NFL Draft page, because there's an user adding undrafted players that are not notable, for example:

• Ricky Lumpkin, 10 tackles, one sack
• William Powell, 217 rushing yards, no touchdowns.

Is that notable? I think it is not. So I hope you can help

Regards =) Sergio Skol (talk) 00:37, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sure @Sergio Skol, I'll keep an eye out. Hey man im josh (talk) 02:34, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll wait for it.

I was on a edit war against him, but I decided to forget that for now, until the page is protected.

Another example, he wants to add Richard Medlin, a player with literally no official stats =/ Sergio Skol (talk) 02:51, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If they have an article, that is usually enough to include them unless there is consensus to be more strict with that list. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:06, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@QuicoleJR: Could you please point to where this kind of consensus was established? The list is not all inclusive, similar to the free agent signings section. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:08, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this discussion should be had at Talk:2011_NFL_Draft#Notable_undrafted_players. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:09, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the confidence in my editing to nominate me for redirect autopatrolled (Special:Diff/1169536359). I've definitely noticed, and appreciate your work, at patrolling the redirects I've created. Skynxnex (talk) 17:32, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Skynxnex. Thank YOU for the work you put that caught my attention! I appreciate your contributions and I think that, if you're ever interested, you should consider joining the NPP team. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:34, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've pondered apply for NPP, partly since it seems that the backlog is growing. I'm one of the people who are a bit eh about the concept of draft space as it current exists on English Wikipedia but I assume I'd still be seen as helpful if I focus more on redirects and whatever unpatrolled pages I'm confident with? Skynxnex (talk) 23:05, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Skynxnex: It's okay if you're not the biggest fan of draft space, you don't HAVE to draftify pages. You could always tag and move on, skip the page(s), or send it to AfD. You would absolutely still be helping out by focusing on redirects and those pages that you're confident in. Redirects and my niche (American football) were exactly how I started at NPP and if that's what you want to do, well, we'd LOVE to have you! Every bit helps and there's no obligation to do any more than you feel up to on any given day. Hey man im josh (talk) 23:59, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Come give it a shot @Skynxnex, I really do think you'd do well at it. I hope to see an application from you at WP:PERM/NPR (no pressure though). Hey man im josh (talk) 00:04, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Akhibhasan55 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Ahmed Akhib Al Hasan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Akhibhasan55 (talk) 13:20, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Can't believe you got to send one of these first 🙄. Thanks for all your help on List of National Football League annual passing touchdowns leaders :) ULPS (talk) 17:01, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was a pleasure working with you @ULPS! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:01, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for signing my guestbook!

Notrealname1234 (talk) 21:40, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the wonderfully cute kitten! Hey man im josh (talk) 21:42, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, Hey man im josh! The list you nominated, List of National Football League annual passing touchdowns leaders, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, PresN (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Category:2023 in Monaco motorsport indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:09, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh, another red cat I made while patrolling which is now empty. Oh well. Hey man im josh (talk) 01:11, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is what you get when I stumble upon things. You did say that you were putting another one up. I was on that page tonight, saw the star, did some detective work and here I am. Not sure if this was put up for nomination publicly, I never saw it on my watchlist like the July article. Regards, John Bringingthewood (talk) 04:27, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bringingthewood: Thank you! That makes the fifth NFL annual statistical leader article to make it to FL (that was only the third one I worked on). Rushing TDs, interceptions, and sacks are all almost ready and I should have another one nominated by Monday. I also have passing yards leader currently at FLC, so that should be the sixth / my fourth! Hey man im josh (talk) 07:56, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome, that is fantastic! At the risk of repeating myself, YOU DESEREVE IT!! And your partner in crime is deserving as well. I will say hello.

You know what? CONGRATS 3x .. 4x ... ah hell, 10x ....... you're the man for all that is upcoming! I'll see you the next time, one way or the other. Stay well. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:01, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well thank you @Bringingthewood, I always appreciate your kind words! Hey man im josh (talk) 14:12, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome, and not only do I appreciate all that YOU do ... I have to echo all that I'm now reading below.

That would be a very good day!  ; )

See you later. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:37, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are a remarkable editor in many ways. You would be a good administrator, in my opinion, and appear to be well qualified. You personify an administrator without tools and have gained my support already!

To be honest, you're one of those editors that I see with a mop and bucket in the near future. — Prodraxis {talk • contribs} (she/her) 13:42, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the kind words @Prodraxis. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:07, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. But seriously with all this track record in New Pages Patrol, CSD, and antivandalism combined with the great content work (3 FLs!) you definitely meet my admin criteria. — Prodraxis {talk • contribs} (she/her) 14:12, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hang on, Josh isn't an admin already? News to me. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 21:10, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IKR? - UtherSRG (talk) 11:05, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Took a quick look and your NPP work is solid, especially given all the RFPP and UAA reports it leads to. Thanks for the work you do, and I hope you consider requesting more tools. — Wug·a·po·des 21:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

+1 ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:26, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

One of the most helpful mentors I've had so far at NPP, I'm sure you would do great with the tools. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 21:36, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Would support at RfA — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 06:06, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed! - UtherSRG (talk) 11:05, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another admin at NPP is always helpful. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 11:39, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all for the words of encouragement, I really do appreciate it. Maybe some day! Hey man im josh (talk) 12:08, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]