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(I have relocated these very precious kindnesses from others to the top of my talkpage, so they will never be lost or forgotten. I am very grateful for each one.)

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	For your well-chosen words at Talk:Christian ethics. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:15, 29 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Phenomenal job on History of Christian thought on persecution and tolerance! Your deep grasp of the scholarly literature and your tireless commitment to addressing my large number of comments and generally improving the article is very impressive! Thank you for all your hard work! DocFreeman24 (talk) 14:46, 1 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	For your diligence at Biblical criticism and elsewhere. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:56, 12 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your praises played by Moop Mama, more on my talk, or the Main page ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:20, 15 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Friendship Barnstar
		Thank you again for your kind comments and friendly gesture. You are a fine example of a Kindness Campaign member. History DMZ (talk)+(ping) 04:09, 26 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

P.S. Feel free to take over the 'Gerda's newsletter' idea. I'm going to re-focus on maybe starting a Kindness Campaign newsletter :)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		You definitely deserve this for your work on History of Christian thought on persecution and tolerance! HouseBlaster (talk) 17:47, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A year ago ...

"What do you mean, I can´t rewrite the entire article!?"
... you were recipient no. 1915 of Precious, a prize of QAI!

miss you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:58, 30 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Christianity Barnstar
		You deserve this for your herculean efforts to improve Biblical criticism and respond to the comments at its recent FAC. As Gog mentioned in the closing note, with some additional work it will have a good chance at passing next time around. ((u|Sdkb)) talk 05:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ovinus has given you a bowl of peaches! This delicious fruit promotes WikiLove and has hopefully made your day juicier. Spread peachiness and WikiLove by giving someone else some peaches, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend, by adding ((subst:Peach)) to their talk page with a friendly message!

Was thinking of you and your work earlier, Jen. Thanks for everything and I hope you have a good day! I certainly will be... today is a dim light at the end of this year-long tunnel. Warmly, Ovinus (talk) 13:38, 20 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Christianity Barnstar
		Dear Jenhawk777, I award you The Christianity Barnstar for all your hard work in WikiProject Christianity-related articles, especially your recent creation of Evolutionary theodicy. Keep up the good work! Your efforts are making a difference here! With regards, AnupamTalk 04:21, 24 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thank you Jenhawk777 for the message that you left on Gerda's page for me. Truly, the volunteers of these huge projects like WP, LibriVox, DP cannot go the extra mile without people like Gerda and you, who inject fresh energy into the volunteers. The kind words are our only salary, and fortunately we all can pay each other a lot. :) Qapisce (talk) 10:57, 21 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Order of the Superior Scribe of Wikipedia
		For all the time and effort you have put in — across thousands of edits — to markedly improve numerous articles related to Christianity all these years. The magnitude of the positive impact you have had with regard to Wikipedia's coverage of academic topics related to Christianity is unprecedented; I cannot think of any other editor who has worked so rigorously and improved those topics to the extent that you have. You are a phenomenal editor and your work is awe-inspiring. Thank you for all that you do! — The Most Comfortable Chair 21:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This has touched me so deeply I almost cried. Thank you so, so very much. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Original Barnstar
		For tireless and invaluable efforts on creating and improving Christianity-related pages. Avilich (talk) 12:10, 24 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not the first you receive, but the first I ever hand out. Avilich (talk) 12:10, 24 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Avilich Bless your heart! Thank you so much! This is very kind of you and I appreciate it. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:10, 24 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The content now reads as a proper Wikipedia article as well. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 10:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ActivelyDisinterested Bless you! Thank you! I so deeply appreciate you and all your work. You are still the one I will reach out to when I have a problem, but you have taught me a lot, and this article was just too much to ask someone else to do for me. I would have enjoyed banging my head against a wall more, but hey, I followed your example and got it done. I put it up for peer review and others suggested adding back a theology section which I am beginning work on today. Thank you again. You are a great blessing. Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:22, 19 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September songs

		The Original Barnstar
		For excellent work on Theodosius I and Massacre of Thessalonica Richard Keatinge (talk) 21:02, 20 May 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 30 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey Gerda Arendt sorry for the delayed response. I'm a little out of it these days. Thank you for this. It's kind of you. Jenhawk777 (talk) 13:53, 5 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

May songs

no response needed, ever! - going to sing evensong tomorrow and next Saturday, then Auf dem Weg durch diese Nacht! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gerda Arendt perhaps not needed, but your extraordinary kindnesses deserve acknowledgement. Wish I could be there to hear you. Break a leg! As they say on the American stage! (But don't really... ) It was my birthday yesterday. I was 29 again... First birthday without my mom. First of many of those firsts. Going to be a long year. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:04, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

take some of the flowers and the rainbow for your birthday, with the best wishes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:34, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

and here's a strong woman --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I like my talk today (actually mostly from 29 May - I took the title pic), enjoy the music, two related videos worth watching! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gerda Arendt the link is to an archived page but I am unsure what part of it is your talk. Is it the 2022 friendship at the top or is it at the bottom where new stuff goes? Jenhawk777 (talk) 14:54, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

perhaps I don't understand the question - it's my talk as it is now, but tomorrow it will look different, therefore the archive. The pic on top should be obvious, I'm always extra proud when a pic I took makes it to the Main page. Further down you can read "My talk goes like this", explaining how the images following are connected to my life and my articles. The video of the music is at the bottom of the orchestra article, the other at the bottom of the violinist's article. Both highly recommended. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:12, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gerda Arendt Ahhh - you mean your talk page. When you said, "I like my talk today" I misunderstood. I thought you had given a talk - a speech or something - and it was recorded and I could see and hear you, and when I couldn't find that I got lost. I am caught up now. Thank you dearheart, and thank you especially for sharing those with me.Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:34, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

happy we could clarify, and sorry for sloppy language - didn't we talk about a newsletter once, and I said my talk (page) is my newsletter? - nothing new there today but new flowers and archiving, but two people recently died who will (hopefully) come up --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

YES!! A Gerda newsletter for all of us who love you to keep up! That's what we need! Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:58, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hu Nhu has given you a Sugar cookie! Sugar cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better! Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a Sugar cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

Your tireless and difficult work regarding the Francis Drake article is impressive. I doubted that, under the circumstances, such editing was possible. Please continue.

Hu Nhu (talk) 02:33, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hu Nhu thank you so much! I have neglected you and I apologize, but I have been mostly gone or prioritizing helping the newbies. You remember how overwhelming things can be at first! I have not been back to review Drake for quite awhile because I have been caught up in two long long overwrites. It amazes me how often unsourced articles are also the most biased ones - but I will get back to Drake eventually. Thank you for your good thoughts. They mean a lot to me. Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:11, 27 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Happy New Year!

Jenhawk777,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (talk) 14:04, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you so much! Happy new year to you as well. Jenhawk777 (talk) 14:54, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

   Send New Year cheer by adding ((subst:Happy New Year fireworks)) to user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 14:04, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

Like 2019, remember? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What a wonderful article. Hope you have a happy new year for real. Jenhawk777 (talk) 06:27, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you! - On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible. - About that A class, I think we have some misunderstanding, - I simply believe that GA tops A, but don't have the slightest experience with A B C. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gerda Arendt "A" supposedly tops "GA" and is an interim step to FA, so I first thought that was the way to go. I would like to see History of Christianity reach FA, and I learned from my first experience at FA that it requires a great deal more prep than I knew back then, so I was thinking of how best to prep it - and me. In keeping with getting all my ducks in a row, I thought 'A' might be the way to go, but others seem to think another peer review specifically aimed at FA is the best idea. I have therefore nominated it for peer review - which you recommended - but my hopes are not high that it will get a response anytime soon. FA reviewers are all busy with actual reviews. All I can do is wait. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:52, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

story · music · places

Yesterday was a friend's birthday, with related music. - I'm on vacation - see places. - I like that you don't give up the PR, - repeating: take the advice you can live with, and ignore other. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:32, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article History of Christianity you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Generalissima -- Generalissima (talk) 19:23, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Generalissima Wow! That's amazing! I only nominated it a few hours ago. Thank you so very much! I've been working on this for months, trying to summarize sufficiently to get the length down - at one time it was over 20,000 words - while still being careful to cover all the important topics. I so hope you like it, and I look forward to any and all helpful criticisms. (I really mean that too, since I am hoping to eventually take this FA.) Thank you again. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:38, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:42, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Say an agnostic Swedish prayer for me... Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:43, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[1] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:27, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I hope you had a nice Trettondedag jul. Me and my family ate and drank. As a Wikipedian, I told them this holiday was in the memory of the three Magi and and Jesus' baptism. They may have been somewhat skeptical, but what can you do. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:42, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I wish that was a holiday we celebrated - it looks like so much fun! But I suppose it's just as well we don't have another eating holiday. We start in October and don't quit till January. Any more and I'd weigh 400 lbs! Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:48, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Somewhere in the history of this talkpage, I mentioned the Swedish novel The Longships. In it, there is a (shrewd) christian priest who get the chance to preach to Swedish pagans. He tells them of Jesus that "When he walked on this earth, he turned water into good feast-drink for the joy of his friends." He knew his audience. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 23:08, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ha ha! I love it! The Danish are not far removed... Jenhawk777 (talk) 03:15, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I just joined Wikipedia because I was bored, I guess. Maybe I could edit or make some articles in the future. But I'm quite new to editing and making wikipedia articles. --DaShayban (talk) 17:55, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

== Welcome! == Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:26, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The article History of Christianity you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:History of Christianity for comments about the article, and Talk:History of Christianity/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Generalissima -- Generalissima (talk) 23:03, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bless you! Thank you. You have been wonderful. Jenhawk777 (talk) 23:29, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Congratulations! I saw on Gerda's talk page (I don't think I'm welcome there right now, so I come here) that you intend to take it to FAC, which it definitely has the legs for, but I would echo her advice not to go through an A-class process, and instead try to drum up advice at a peer review. I can tell you the names of editors who'll give good advice. As for DYK, try to find unusual facts that you wouldn't expect from an article titled "History of Christianity", or facts that are simply so fantastic/amazing they just stand out in any context. Let me know if you want any advice on either FA or DYK. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 02:16, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you so much! I haven't been to Gerda's page yet, but on the A-class page they say it is prep for FAC. I wonder why she would be against it - but I trust Gerda absolutely. If she says no, I won't do it. I have already had three separate "informal" but extremely helpful peer reviews, but I am always in need of more victims - I mean candidates. I will look through the article and see if something jumps out, but 'unusual' and 'amazing' are rarely aspects of histories like this one. Besides, in this area that probably equates to controversial... Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:53, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I just saw the GA mark and headed here to say congratulations. Well done for all your hard work. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 16:53, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ActivelyDisinterested Bless you! Thank you so much! Did you happen to see my message on your page about not finding the common.css page? Any advice on getting it to FA? Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:53, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I replied on my talk page, sorry I should have added a ping. Asking about FA status is well over my head, I would take AirshipJungleman29 up on their offer on that one. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 19:00, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Going there. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:01, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How do I collapse the GA review now that it's done? Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:30, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Do you mean the review details on the talk page? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 20:24, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes. Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:27, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've add ((cot)) and ((cob)) to the GA Review part. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 20:37, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You are so cool. Thank you. What do those stand for exactly? I will write that down somewhere! Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:39, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ummmm... it's all still there. Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:40, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Collaspe top and collaspe bottom. |title= is used in cot to add text.
Its collasped but remains in the table of contents, if you go to a section of it it will auto uncollaspe. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 20:43, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Okay, I see that now. Thank you again. Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:55, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

~~ AirshipJungleman29 I was thinking on your advice to look for the "unusual" for a DYK, and I may have found one. "Sex was central to one of the greatest ideological shifts in history". I can't think of how to include empire, individual freedom vs. fate, and social status. This is a direct quote: "The legacy of Christianity lies in the dissolution of an ancient system where social and political status, power, and social reproduction scripted the terms of sexual morality." It might fill the bill. WDYT? Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:56, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There's also this: " From the 600s to the 700s, Roman Popes had to be approved by the Eastern emperor before they could be installed," and this one "Between 1000 and 1300, the Church became the leading institution of this world that was becoming increasingly refined, educated and secular. After 1300, the Church was riddled with corruption and entered into a decline that ended in the division of the Church." Does any of this seem viable to you? Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:53, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

And this: "the Church of the 1300s, which had in its origins decried the power of law, developed "the most complex religious law the world has ever seen... in which equity and universality were largely overlooked". Do you like any of these? Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:04, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I actually love this one: "Popes began losing prestige and power in the 1300s. Pope Boniface VII (1294-1303) wrote a papal bull in 1302 claiming papal superiority over all secular rulers. Philip IV, king of France, answered by sending an army to arrest him. Boniface fled for his life." Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:06, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I can see the destination airline on there can you fix it --Derrick Calligan (talk) 02:13, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Fix what? Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:14, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Talk:The_Bible_and_violence#May_someone_explain_why_is_the_"Hamsa"_(Yiddish!)_word_in_the_article_in_the_first_place?. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:24, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gråbergs Gråa Sång Thank you for alerting me. I was interested and did go make a comment. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:05, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

They didn't like it much. Jenhawk777 (talk) 23:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

One can speculate on if this is a reaction to the word Hamas, which has been seen in the news (and on WP) a bit since last year. But, quite unrelated to the article in question. I couldn't stop myself [2] but I may get around to digging up the whos? at some point. You also inspired me to do this edit [3], we'll see if it sticks. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:07, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, he did call it political, but it isn 't current and has nothing to do with current issues really. I may edit some too. It has needed it for a long time now. Including some of the stories themselves - context - would be an improvement. Except the Bible generally makes no comment on them. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:32, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So I was in a discussion that was getting a bit annoying (Talk:Jai_Shri_Ram#WP:LEAD_disagreement), thought to myself "What can I do that's more sane and calming? Ah! I'll go over to The Bible and violence and talk to Jenhawk." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

But of course! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:59, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, I was editing my sandbox, but something isn't letting me publish that edit. It keeps showing me a "Something went wrong" message when the only thing I tried to do is to cite a website. --Lo1vesedi2ting (talk) 18:16, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Give me a link. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I can't give you a link because it keeps saying something went wrong, even on your talk page. The link is from New World Encyclopedia about Harold Harefoot. I reported the error & another user posted a message in my talk page that says that New World Encyclopedia isn't a reliable source. Lo1vesedi2ting (talk) 21:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I found it. It looks as if that is copied from that website. That would be the problem. You can't copy anything to anywhere on WP, not even your own sandbox, w/o putting a banner saying it is copied. That would be two curly brackets, the word copied, then a straight-up stovepipe |, then from= the web address or title, stovepipe, to=your sandbox, then two closing curly brackets. Try that and see if it works. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:30, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your edits are being rejected because you keep trying to post links to New World Encyclopedia, which is a fork of Wikipedia controlled and moderated by the Unification Church. Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks makes it very clear that forks are not reliable sources, and have no use here. That particular one triggers the edit filter because there's a history of it being used disruptively by an WP:LTA. The article you were trying to link is simply a fork of Harold_Harefoot; why not just link to the Wikipedia version? OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:16, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you! I had no idea. Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:03, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Who keeps archives of all history in a book like how the Bible is? The history of everything in the world that happened up until now? And who keeps archives of people who were born and enslave? --NewGenofblack (talk) 02:30, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No one. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello! I am working on an article about someone who died but I have somewhat incomplete information about them. They are a theatre set designer and have produced over 150 plays (verbally confirmed by her coworkers) but I only have information about less than 20, and incomplete info about some of them; I'm missing the years some of them were produced, and since some of them are form the 70s and 80s, it's hard to find information about them online. Do you have advice about how to present this information, like is there a way to make a note somewhere that this is an incomplete list? Thank you. --Thirteentreefrogs (talk) 02:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You can't include information that you only have personally confirmed verbal information about. Read and follow this:Wikipedia:Reliable sources Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:06, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you, I am following the format on that page. Do you have any advice on how to note that information is incomplete in an article? Thirteentreefrogs (talk) 20:59, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You can just say so, but it's kind of a given that things are missing in every Wikipedia article. We have limits on length and space. Be as thorough as you can. You can note information that is lacking. But above all else, be sure you have those sources! Jenhawk777 (talk) 05:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you! Thirteentreefrogs (talk) 02:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you so much again for your work on this article! I noticed with the peer review that a lot of people were discussing pairing down the article; this is something that I have found myself relatively adept at, and I was wondering if I could offer my skills in trying to defluff it a little so that space opens up for details that ought to be added; I've spent enough time with it at this point I think I have an idea of how this would be done (and if it ends up being not as high quality, it can always just get reverted to the previous state) Generalissima (talk) 18:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Generalissima What a wonderful offer! Yes of course! You know you don't have to ask, but it is so like the you I have come to know here to do so. I am deeply touched. Thank you, yes, yes, that would be wonderful. If it is also okay with you, we can kind of work as a team, so that if I see any critical content being removed, we can discuss how to keep it while still taking advantage of your skill at being concise. I do not have that skill! I want all the juicy details! Thank you dear one. Thank you. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:49, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am feeling so much more hopeful now that I am already doing more research on making the additions to Antiquity and the high Middle Ages that others requested. I can come up with the content, and if you can edit it down, then perhaps then we can reassess the whole FA thing. I would be thrilled to be able to co-nominate with you. I didn't know such a thing was possible. Your comment on the review page was spot on. I know there are things I can no longer see, just because that's the way it works with humans! But together perhaps we can actually get this done. Thank you. You are amazing!!!! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Of course! I am busy with classwork at the moment, but I'll try to take a look at it once I'm done. My first big change will be trying to transfer as many scholarly quotes as possible to simple cited statements; that I think will clear up the prose. I also might take the axe to some of the notes, since sadly I feel that reviewers were correct in stating that many are unnecessary with the density of links and hatnotes we have. I am not a scholar of religion by any means, so I think you will have to take up the content additions that were suggested. Luckily, I think we have a broad and relatively consistent set of things the reviewers thought were missing. Generalissima (talk) 20:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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