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Could you give User:Krator/Sandbox3 a look before I post it? Comments on just about everything are appreciated, specifically whether it's true or not and how to portray the spirit of the message more effectively without sounding like a deletion maniac :) User:Krator (t c) 21:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with it, seems like perfectly reasonable to point out that it's not as one-sided as the other evidence suggests. --MASEM 22:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Can you review File:Masato kato.png and determine whether it can get the ((Rk)) template? Radical Dreamers is in WP:FAC and one of the reviewers is concerned that an image still "contested" doesn't pass one of the criteria. Thanks. Zeality (talk) 23:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

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Hello Masem, there is a discussion happening at Talk:Canada#Image_of_the_Queen regarding the use of Image:Queen_of_canada_wob.jpg under fair use. I thought since you are active in the fair use policy on Wikipedia that you could add your 2c to it. Currently there another picture on the page that has the Queen in it, but the picture is about an event, and not the Queen. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 22:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The image of the queen (Image:Queen_of_canada_wob.jpg) has no fair use rationale for illustrating her role in Canadian government, which is the section where the image was placed. The free picture (Image:Ouellet_approaches_to_sign_the_Constitution.jpg) could be used to illustrate the role of the Queen in Canadian government. It is a free image listed in the Creative Commons. She is shown signing the constitution, which illustrates this function well. --soulscanner (talk) 22:33, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I added some ratings info about the episode. It's a ten year old episode of The Simpsons, so there's really not a lot of reliable online sources about it. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 05:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

looks good now, GA Sweep passed. (Now there's Mountain of Madness , though.. :-) --MASEM 05:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content regarding use of fair-use images. After weeks of trying to get an explanation of how the guidelines are applied, you are the first who hasn't summarily dismissed my queries. I am persuaded by your reasoning but would still like clarification of some of the guidelines. If you have more to add, please help out as previous attempts to this end have been met with silence or hostility. Thanks again. — AjaxSmack 20:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Mas. Question for you: could you check out the last section on my talk page, from Collectonian, and see if you can offer any assistance? She's having issues surrounding an episode list with another editor, but I know little to nothing about episodes, lists, or anything along those lines, and nobody's really picked up on the ANI discussion about it. I'd appreciate if you could take a look. Thanks! Tony Fox (arf!) 01:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Masem, could you do me a favour and have a read of this (Template_talk:Infobox_VG#Error_report) The code in the template needs changing. I think I know what the code should be but would be grateful if you could put a request for an editprotected on the discussion page. Thanks. - X201 (talk) 09:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. - X201 (talk) 16:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, the poster listed below requires a fair use rationale:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2006commemorativeBromeFairposter_xw500.jpg

Could you provide me with a good example of a model fair-use rationale for an Event poster?

Thanks.--soulscanner (talk) 04:08, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

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You may not be aware of it, but you're involved here[1]. There is discussion of fair use involved here. I invite you to comment as you see appropriate. --soulscanner (talk) 12:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Two questions. First, exactly how small does the image need to be because I saw nothing at WP:FU that indicated a size specification, and I had already reduced it from its originaly 696×919 size to the smaller 454×600. Second, the article is a featured article so why is it being reviewed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force?  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 04:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

On images, the largest dimension should be about 300-500 px, unless you feel that reducing the image farther will reduce critical details beyond recognition. I know it's not spelled out anywhere, and that probably needs remedy, but it does pop up at ((Non-free use rationale)). As for why it's being checked after it's been an FA, it's just a sweep of all GAs set from a specific date, and given it's an FA, means that pretty much it passes the GA, but I'm still just making the check to be complete. --MASEM 04:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that, it looks great! Hewinsj (talk) 16:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 03:48, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Not sure how best to reflect this in the article history - just leave the article history alone and leave the note as is that you made on the talk page? Cirt (talk) 21:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't believe there's an established entry for the ARticle history template for this... this is more a 'check', so I'd just ignore it for now. --MASEM 21:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, okay, sounds good for now. Cirt (talk) 05:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello. An article I nominated for GA, Homer the Heretic, was recently passed, but it was relativley, well instant. No notes on the talk page or anything. I suspect he did it in exchange for me reviewing his article, Diversity Day. Another Simpsons GA is great, but I would like a second opinion in case this one was rushed. Can you help me? --Simpsons fan 66 22:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much Masem, that puts my mind at ease. --Simpsons fan 66 23:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm trying to find where in the FA/GA review it says Image:Portal Game.svg is a redundant image. I believe it should be included in the article as it is one of the primary story telling components at the beginning of each level. I created the image from scratch myself, and now that bloody BJBot is threatening to delete it. Fosnez (talk) 06:45, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

It's not so much redundant (though the Portal title is duplicated) but that there's no significance of the icons within the article as noted by the last FA comment block, which is a valid point. --MASEM 07:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Preforming copy-and-paste page moves messes up the page history. Instead, an administrator should do this task and usually involves deleting old (redirect) page and and then doing a normal move procedure. Since you are an admin, I don't see how you didn't know this. Anyway... I had put the request at Wikipedia:Requested moves before you did this copy-and-paste page move. See Wikipedia:How to fix cut-and-paste moves for more information. Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 20:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Masem was only cleaning up the mess I had made attempting to create a new page. Sorry for the inconvenience. Mm03gt (talk) 21:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Do you care if I help work on this or do you want to get it basically done before polishing? Lara❤Love 03:58, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I've already BOLDly added this, up over at Wikipedia:Image copyright help desk/BCBFaq (it's the collapsable section under the large header). Feel free to copyedit or add more to it. --MASEM 05:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Noted on the talk page of your proposal to overhaul plot and character sections. I knocked out about 13KB of text in rewriting the plot to be more summary-like and today removed another 6KB worth of character text. Let me know what you think. Is the current summary still too long? I don't know how much more I can abbrevate the plot any more to balance between length and comprehensiveness. hbdragon88 (talk) 07:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Since you are one of the ones who often catches the vandalism like this to the current Survivor season and similar vandalism to last season, if you see him again and revert him, can you also check and revert his other edits? They are almost always just as bad a the Survivor change. He often vandalizes American Idol, Big Brother, Dancing with the Stars, Dance War, and Cars related articles at the same time. I've been blocking him when he appears, but he seems to have multiple IPs, that are interestingly in different geographic regions. Anyways, if you could check his other edits when you revert the Survivor edit, that would be great. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Face it: TAR is long overdue for a WikiProject. You seem like a TAR-oriented user, wanna start one? ♥LilWikiMaster♥ 21:15, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

It would probably be better as a Task Force under the WikiProject Television, but it would still be a good idea to have such for coordination. --MASEM 21:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

How do you start a taskforce? ♥Shapiros10WuzHere♥ 22:18, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For your major contributions to Xbox-related articles, especially your recent overhaul of Crackdown, I hereby award you this barnstar. Now get to APB (video game), because that needs some major housecleaning! ;> xenocidic (talk) 16:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks good. Though on the note of Copyvio, apb-evolved.com said we could use their stuff as long as we attributed back. Though they probably don't meet the verifiability clause. xenocidic (talk) 01:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

		The Xbox Barnstar
		In addition to the above Barnstar, I award you ( I think the first ) Xbox barnstar ! xenocidic (talk) 16:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

		What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
		For introducing the wonderfully intuitive and highly useful term 1.5 sources and in recognition of your generally insightful and inspiring comments. User:Dorftrottel 09:02, February 24, 2008

I would appreciate any input you can provide here. Dorftrottel (talk) 17:02, February 25, 2008

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Hello, I'm a litle confused why the entry Fred Pearce has been deleted. Can you explain further? many thanks Samjonespr (talk) 15:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

As it was written, the article had two major problems. First, it read like a self-advertising biography (not written in an encyclopedic manner). Secondly, the article does not cite any reliable sources to explain why Mr. Pearce may be notable, as required by WP:BIO - while he may have published books and contributes to journals, Wikipedia required reliable third-party sources to say why this person is notable. Both of these are causes for speedy deletion, but if you feel that you can recreate the article to address both issues, please feel free to go ahead and recreate it, but be aware that if these issues aren't at least addressed from the start, the article will likely be speedily-deleted again by any other admin. --MASEM 16:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Since yopu previously discussed some of the issues involved, you might want to participate in this discussion. — AjaxSmack 23:28, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I've had a few discussions about a namespace concern I have; I think I've not found the right person to discuss this with, so I'm going to try you.

I've seen many editors claim that non-notable articles don't clog-up the 'pedia. They claim that such articles are not really hurting anything, that the wiki is not paper and that editors seeking to clean-them up are somehow persecuting the editors who create such junk.

It is my view that non-notable articles do clog up the 'pedia and that they create maintenance issues down the road that, at least eventually, other editors will be forced to deal with. This should, in turn, lead to other editors taking a dimmer view of the creation of non-notable articles in the first place because they gum-up the works.

This is heavily a namespace issue because that is where all articles compete for names. Many articles get created using an inappropriate name and end-up moved to some other name, say with a parenthetical after the primary name. In some cases, this is just the nature of a wiki. In the case of non-notable pop-culture articles that end-up deleted (or, really, any content that is for whatever reason deemed inappropriate for inclusion), their creation in the shared namespace has project-wide impact. Even after deletion there are links left behind, there are redirects, etc. The extensive to and fro on non-notable articles leaves more and more work to be dealt with at some point in the future.

I'm bringing this concern to your attention because I've seen a lot of reasonable commentary from you about fiction and tv stuff and because you created the ((ER to list entry)) which is discussed in the link I'm giving below to JHunterJ's talk page. I would like your opinion on what should happen with One for the Money (do see the discussion about that mess).

The prior bits of this concern are here, User talk:JHunterJ#my namespace concern oldid and here. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:07, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know where there's a central conversation to this, but here's my thoughts that you may relay on if necessary. FICT is trying to reduce non-notable articles, but it is not trying to prevent coverage of non-notable topics, and we are encouraging that as long as a non-notable topic is discussed in an appropriate notable topic or sub-article of the topic, then there reasonably should be a redirect for it. However, I would strongly urge that if there is a namespace conflict with a redirected fictional element, episode, or the like, that always a disamb page should be made for the base name, the redirects added to it in addition to the use that should be there. The fiction redirect gets no special privileges over an article that actually should exist at that space. --MASEM 14:35, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. There are two levels to this; one, the larger-scale namespace concern, which, I really feel needs discussion somewhere, and two, the immediate issue of the tv episode article currently under the disambig page at One for the Money (and the many similar cases that I'm sure exist).

In the end, the maintenance burden will fall on editors who a) see the need for the maintenance and b) feel like exerting the effort at performing it; this is likely to be a small group. I see the issue, but am not willing to endlessly clean-up such messes; I feel it is more important to alert others to the issue and reduce the rate at which the maintenance load is accumulating. I have tagged some episodes with ((ER to list entry)), but feel that it is a burden that those who seek to somehow resurrect such content should assume.

A related issue is that many editors are too focused on whatever subject to see that the names they are choosing are inappropriate; the Kressler discussion I gave a link to above, for example. I've seen many cases where some secondary or tertiary use of a term usurps the un-disambiguated name and this ends up needing adjustment; work that falls to others.

My overarching purpose in seeking this sort of meta discussion is to raise the bar on the creation of articles and/or redirects that will likely be deemed inappropriate for inclusion at some later date. In many case this will be a notability issue, but the concern applies to anything created that later goes; if there is significant time between the two, the convolutions get quite messy.

On One for the Money, can the earlier history be split from the recent edits to One for the Money (The Golden Girls) where it could be tagged with ((ER to list entry|The Golden Girls)) and the edits that created the disambiguation page restored to One for the Money without the prior history?

Please note that I've not found any reference to the classic children's rhyme which endorses a theory of mine about wikipedia editors.

Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:05, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

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I think we are on the same page here and I get the impression you understand exactly where I am coming from. I hope we can work together to create a concise guideline from the work that has gone into it so far. I understand the need to support, at least temporarily, articles which do not currently assert their notability, but I think the guideline should move towards defining notability more broadly rather than allowing exceptions. Such movement does not need to be sudden, but I would be happy to support any moves in that direction. Geometry guy 22:37, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Howdy,

I noticed that you and another user felt it appropriate to revert my edits to the BioShock page. I do not understand the reason for this - I have listed several sources in my comment on the talk page (which I have pasted below) which show my information is completely accurate. I understand that my layout and coding for the segment was poor (haven't done it before) so I need your help to correctly implement the information. Here's the post:

Hi, You guys keep reverting my edits. I don't know why, there are several sources

 - http://au.gamespot.com/features/6177688/p-3.html
 - http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/bioshock_directx10_performance/page4.asp
 - http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2007/08/30/bioshock_gameplay_graphics_and_performance/5

each of which shows a clear and described difference between DX9 and DX10. Yes, there are sites which say otherwise, but as both GameSpot and TweakGuides state, this is due to the glitch of the in-game controller not working. I am not very good at referencing, but these sources more than confirm there is a difference in particles/water/shadows, and that the in-game option is broken. That's a pretty notable thing and I need your help to include it, rather than simply reverting it back for no reason. I'll wait a few days for your response then go ahead and have a go at editing it again myself.

I hope we can overcome this seemingly minor problem soon. If you could respond on the BioShock talk page it would be appreciated. My post is titled 'DX10 Benefits'. Cheers, Greglo (talk) 06:53, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

So... whatever happened to that idea? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 02:37, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't see any major opposition to including it, so it can probably be swapped in at any time. --MASEM 06:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Can you do it then? I'm not exactly sure what changes that entails. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 12:29, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The documentation page has gone AWOL - X201 (talk) 17:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

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I think I've addressed your concern: I've replaced 'map' with scenario in the usage. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 00:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, you might like to take a look at the argument a user is advancing at

• Talk:Bahamut (Dungeons & Dragons)#Weighing in on the use of Dungeons & Dragons Source Materials as references

Basically he is arguing that primary sources can establish notability. He does not put it so succinctly. Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Please cite the wikipedia-wide consensus behind this section. -- Cat ^chi? 22:47, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

You were quick to revert, so I thought there was clear consensus behind it. I am still waiting. I will not drop this issue until I see evidence of such consensus. -- Cat ^chi? 23:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Introduction of the idea in 2003, leading to the creation of the term "transwiki" and the process to do it buy (from Help:Transwiki. --MASEM 23:19, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Could I seek your assistance on something. I'm having a dispute with a new user, Joey 606, who insists that IMDb is a reliable source and continues to add information to Smallville (season 7) using them and other fansites as his source of information.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 19:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

This article has been nominated as a featured article candidate by an editor who appears not to have worked on it. As an active contributor to it, your input concerning whether you feel the article is ready for FA candidacy would be helpful. Appreciate if you would respond at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Gears of War. Maralia (talk) 21:50, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, Masem, if you feel it's not ready, I can withdraw it without failing it. Please let me know. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:00, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

No Problem. However, If you could point me to a free use image for Rock Band, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!

--Torchflame (talk) 22:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

You could try Image:Rock Band Icons.svg, which is a free version of the 4 instrument icons for the game. --MASEM 22:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed you have a request in at peer review which has not yet received any response besides the semi-automated script. Have you tried requesting a peer review from the volunteers list? Another idea you might want to try is to review someone else's request (particularly one from the list of requests without responses), then ask that they look at your request. Hope these are helpful suggestions and help to get some feedback for your request soon, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:48, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Ping. The WT:VG discussion linked to contains some more sources/information. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 06:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey hey. Would like to hear why you considered this image "redundant" for the Grim Fandango article. I think it complements the article by representing the noir mood of the game, something I feel is missing from the other two pictures (the first being a non-game cast collage and the other a behind-the-scenes illustration of building a scene, not even featuring the protagonist). --Jopo (talk) 13:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

The box art does a good job in capturing the noir mood in addition to showing Manny predominately. --MASEM 13:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. Good work on the article, it's really shaping up now. --Jopo (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I've finished with my little edits, feel free to revert them if you think they did more harm than good. I'll leave the voice acting info to you as you know the article better. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 15:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC))

Beaten to the punch! :D Nifboy (talk) 22:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully one of those messages will get to Rare and the situation will be rectified - can't help to have two corroborating references here. --MASEM 23:04, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

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Just wanted to add that Image:Gh on tour.jpg is no longer used in the article Guitar Hero: On Tour because Image:Guitar Hero On Tour Logo.png (the same image in PNG format) is in it's place. Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 17:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for checking in on the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Synthesis on video games. I've put together a strawman proposal, based on some of the things you said. Let me know what you think. Policywonker (talk) 23:57, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for helping out in the reports answers. Very much appreciated. Regards, Rudget. 12:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

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In your recent edit to Resistance 2 you said that the profile pages were inappropriate, why is this? Thanks. --Bloigen 20:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

See WP:VG/EL - the links are generally seen as promotions of those sites, and even if all other similar sites are listed next to each other, now you run into issues of the EL section being like a link farm. --MASEM 21:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

You might want to find some way to check out GameShark Ultimate Codes: 2006 Summer (library, friends, bookstores). It lists out GameShark codes for Guitar Hero. If one of them is a code to unlock "Graveyard Shift", then the book would be a reliable source to cite the existence of the song in the game. It might not help with proving its composer though. Jappalang (talk) 08:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

An editor, Ronin6401 (talk · contribs), has come to the articles Friday the 13th (film) and A Nightmare on Elm Street rewritting the plot sections so that they contain some original research, POV wording, dramatic tone, contractions and other issues not accepted here. I've tried to keep the basic idea of what the editor was adding, and correct for the other issues (while at the same time explaining on their talk page why I partially reverted their work), but the editor continues to return to the pages reverting back to their original edit. I have tried to talk to them, but they refuse to respond on their talk page, mine or the article talk pages. This is turning into an edit war, and I've tried to at least compromise with what they want to add in most cases.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 23:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I dropped a 3RR warning on his page, though I don't think he'll break it technically (3 edits in just under 24 hrs), but I would say if he reverts twice more in the next day without any response, you should then file a 3RR report (breaking 3RR in spirit). --MASEM 23:23, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Hopefully, after your warning, he'll be more receptive to discussing this on a talk page.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 23:25, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I think on WP:PLOT we are seeing a lack of consensus. The !votes on the History of For Better or For Worse and Back to the Future timeline (see Deletion review) are, IMO, pretty clear in showing that WP:PLOT lacks anything resembling consensus. So while I don't claim removing it has consensus, I think policy needs to have consensus to continue. So basically I'm asking you to undo your revert on the basis that there is no consensus for WP:PLOT. Hobit (talk) 01:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Some time ago I added an external link to article about Lemmings (http://lemmings.isamedia.org/), and you've deleted it. I don't know what was wrong with it - Lemmings Community is a very complex forum, you can find there a lot of information about Lemmings, and it's up-to-date - there are lots of users talking every day about the game. But if you hadn't even bothered to take a look the site, then I "congratulate" you on "well-thought-out" undoing my edition, you only make it harder for Lemmings fans to find a good site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.191.170.242 (talk) 19:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Fan sites, particularly those that are heavily based on forums, are not appropriate to include as external links; Wikipedia is not a directory of links. It may be a good site, but it does not qualify for the high standards that need to be there for fansites to be included. --~

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Oops didn't notice it starts tomorrow. Sorry about that. You were right to remove the PROD. Cheers! Redfarmer (talk) 22:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

No worries. --MASEM 23:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I am currently working on Guitar Hero (series) and noticed that you have made substantial contributions recently to the article. If you have time, I would appreciate it if you could help out and improve the article to Featured Article status. Thanks in advance! Gary King (talk) 17:39, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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Masem: you have been invited to participate in Wiki Amazing Race, a project by Shapiros10. If you want to participate, sign your name under the "teams" section. I will divide up groups. If you aren't familiar, read up on The Amazing Race. The "taska" will be trivia. Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shapiros10 (talk • contribs) 23:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm gonna spread the word about the newsletter-- King Rock ^{Go 'Skins!} 02:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey. April 9th, is fast approaching. Any other changes/ideas to the newsletter? And are there any more issues or obstacles still up in the air? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 21:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC))

Quick question(s), how do you think we should handle signing up for the newsletter? And are will going to send it out to all VG members? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 19:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC))

I would not spam the newsletter itself, though a two-three sentence saying "Here's where you can read the new VG newsletter" and "Here's how to sign up if you want future issues" and that "there will be no future individual announcements of this newsletter" (eg, it's all opt-in only) to all members is appropriate. Signup should be a subpage, uses just drop their username (linked in) to the page. FUture newsletters will point to that with the instructions to stop receiving it to take name of the list. --MASEM 20:04, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. I think the newsletter is as good as it's going to get before the day is over. Hopefully we can get this automated so we won't have to stress over it. :-p (Guyinblack25 ^talk 23:56, 9 April 2008 (UTC))

I copied the draft over to Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Newsletter/20080409. I'll leave a link to it on WT:VG, and maybe transclude it too. Do we need to get a bot to leave a message on member talk pages? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 01:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC))

I can AWB from the VG project member list, I just need a message. --MASEM 02:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

How's this:

"Hello, you are receiving this one-time message because you have the ((User WPVG)) tag on your userpage. The Video game Project has started a monthly newsletter—the first edition can be found here. The newsletter aims to help keep members up to date on the collaborative efforts of the Project, and offer tips on how to improve video game related articles. To receive future editions on your talk page, go to the member sign up section and enter the following wikicode #((user0|(your username))). If you have any questions, please feel free to post on the Newsletter talk page or the Video games talk page."

Sound good? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 03:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC))

That should work -- see the comment by the guy a few sections down who is offering his bot for delivery (as there's like 830 names, this will likely be faster right now for mass delivery). --MASEM 05:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I notice that you brought List of songs in Guitar Hero to WP:FL status, and I'd be delighted if you could help me out and build the list of songs for the other Guitar Hero games to FL status as well. Please let me know if you'd be interested in working on them with me. Thanks! Gary King (talk) 01:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

D'oh - I notice you're already working your way through, as I just saw the II nomination. I'll help out with the III list right now based on your other lists and hopefully that will help it get to FL quicker. Gary King (talk) 01:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I hope you'll get to the GH3 song after the 80s one passes; I'm not nearly as familiar with the format as you are for the GH song lists :) Also, I've already got a few FLCs open right now. Gary King (talk) 18:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

On the newlleter talk page I left some ideas on how to spread the word about the newlleter King Rock ^{Go 'Skins!} 20:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I could send the newsletter with my bot. Please inform me if you want me to do so. STORMTRACKER 94 ^{Go Irish!} 21:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Following in from your comment at WT:FICT, I will have a look through the archives to see how the changes were introduced, as I am not convinced that sufficient consultation was carried out before the changes of January 27th took place, and will discuss my concerns with you here.--Gavin Collins (talk) 09:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

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The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter Volume I, No. 1 - April 9, 2008 Archive After To receive future editions of this newsletter, click here to sign up on the distribution list. Project at a Glance As of 2008-04-07, the project has: 82 Featured articles 10 Featured Lists 7 Featured Topics 1 article in Featured Article Review 184 Good Articles 15 articles for Peer review 3 articles for Assessment Featured Articles, Lists, and Topics Candidates and Reviews Featured Article Candidates Guitar Hero Featured List Candidates List of songs in Guitar Hero II Featured Topic Candidates None Featured Review Final Fantasy VII (FA) Changes to Featured and Good articles, lists, and topics in March Promoted FA: Final Fantasy XI, Super Smash Bros. 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If a notable person has been cited by the game as having worked on the game's development (such as Tim Schafer or David Jaffe), this should also be noted. Release dates should be given, along with the release of any ports, remakes, or sequels. Second paragraph The second paragraph should summarize the plot briefly in one or two sentences; a high level overview is only needed to set the stage for further discussion. One or two sentences should be included to discuss the gameplay, including any notable features of the game. Third paragraph The third paragraph should cover the reception of the game, citing its general critical reaction and any significantly notable successful or failing elements in the game. If the game has won awards, this aspect can be noted, but specific mention of any award is discouraged. This approach should help you to write a good lead for nearly any game, though this may need to be altered for other games. If there's not a lot of reception information for a game, it may be worthwhile to combine the listed first and third paragraphs into one paragraph. There may be need to talk more about an aspect not normally covered in video game articles (such as with E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (Atari 2600)) which should be noted in the lead. Things you can help with: Summary of Video games WikiProject open tasks view watch edit history shell vg talk alerts purge AfDs Veronika Megler (6 participants) Space Combat (3 participants) The Fast and the Furious (2004 video game) (5 participants) Say "I Gotta Believe!" 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I love the FICT addition. Much better clarified! Well done! Seraphim♥ ^Whipp 15:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I would request that you refrain editing WP:FICT, and ask you to request that other editors do the same until the current RFC has drawn to a close. I have no right to ask this, but until the discussions have finished, I feel the creation of new versions every day makes the discussion at WT:FICT difficult to follow. I have asked the same of Percy Snoodle.--Gavin Collins (talk) 16:36, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

The changes that I have made are not related to the RFC's question (that being of spinouts). I agree that not touching the section on spinouts until the RFC resolves is appropriate, but other changes that are not directly related to it should be made when appropriate. --MASEM 16:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

• • I would have to disagree. The large volume of changes to WP:FICT by you, Percy and Sambc, make up for most of the changes to this guideline, but strangely but I think this pattern of editing is self-defeating: as soon as you add something to the guideline, it seems to get over written. I think your arbitrary redrafting of WP:FICT is making this page increasingly unstable, particularly when none of the changes have been agreed upon. --Gavin Collins (talk) 13:44, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on getting what appears to be your first successful WP:FL during the last month. You may want to get involved in our List of the Day and List of the Month experiment. Feel free to help us select next months lists at User:TonyTheTiger/List of the Day/voting/200805 or nominate your list for consideration to be a LOTD in June at User:TonyTheTiger/List of the Day/Nominees/200806.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Could you possinly be my admin coach? ♥Shapiros10WuzHere♥ 00:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey Masem. I find your proposed rewording of the section brilliant as usual. Notifying because me, and curiously two more editors expressed our support for that change on the talk page. I've moved the thread into a new section at page bottom to allow for revived discussion, maybe you want to chime in. Dorftrottel (canvass) 05:02, April 17, 2008

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Yeah, I misunderstood you about album sorting. Now that I get it, it's a great idea. I've also looked at the some of the work you did for the other music games, and I like some of the changes you implemented. So hopefully I'm not being too big of a jerk or anything! TRTX ^{T / C} 14:40, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you take a look at APB (video game) and ensure I properly modified it, now that it's no longer confirmed for consoles? xenocidic (talk) 18:41, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. xenocidic (talk) 19:38, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

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Since you were the only one who replied to my thread over at WT:VG, I'd like you to take a look down my attempt to clean up the classes. The draft is at User:S@bre/TF2. I've condensed the class section into three paragraphs (one for each category of class: offence, defence and support), giving a very brief outline of role, equipment and character attributes. I wanted to see what I could do with keeping it in prose before pursuing the list approach. I'd appreciate any feedback. -- Sabre (talk) 14:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Aye, all accents except the spy (who's accent is not verifiable and consequently not mentioned) can be referenced. The gun details are a difficult, I can't really say much more on the sniper at the moment (until he gets a video), so I've had to add his secondary weapon to beef it out. The other ones, such as the two launchers used by the demoman and the spies arsenal, are all unique weapons with distinct abilities, which is why they are mentioned. Other than that, I've only mentioned a few examples for the melee weapons, there's no point in going into what they are for each class, as long as it is known that they are in keeping with the character. I just listed the ones there because I imagine that the fans will want a few examples, so they're there for the sake of compromise. -- Sabre (talk) 11:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I was looking back through the archives of the List of Songs in Rock Band talk page and noticed you commented on listing the songs as they actually are vs. how the game credits them. The reason being is that I have been contributing to the Grand Theft Auto IV soundtrack page. We used the game manual as our source for all in-game songs. Unfortunately Rockstar Games seems to have made some mistakes with not only song titles, but the artists that did the songs (solo vs with a band). After a borderline WP: edit war I tried to see if I could find any related situations and came up with Guitar Hero and Rock Band. I agreed with the stance taken there, to list the songs as the game credits them and note if there is a significant difference to the real artist/title. I was looking for an opinion on whether or not the situation with GTA IV is comparable to the GH/RB situation. The talk page for that article is not too active, and I do not know if there will be enough input to reach a consensus other than my own opinion. Basically I am just looking for the opinion of other editors that have dealt with similar situations and even whether they feel the GTA IV soundtrack is similar. Thanks in advance. Rowdyoctopus (talk) 21:46, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help getting the GHIII song list reorganized. There's a few appearance issues that I have, but I've voiced those in the talk pages. I think most of it's just getting used to a new look. -- TRTX ^{T / C} 18:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

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(series), StarCraft: Ghost, System Shock 2, The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures, The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Warhawk (PlayStation 3 game), Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, CD-i games from the Legend of Zelda series, Xbox 360, Voices of the Lifestream News There were 256 new articles in April 2008 Current proposals and discussions Well, gee, thanks 1up! 1UP.com has recently changed their rating scale. A list of affected articles can be found here. See discussion for details. About 14% of the articles on the list have been checked and updated. Inactive project cleanup Proposal to consolidate inactive projects and taskforces. Project page can be found here. WikiProject Warcraft and WikiProject StarCraft have been switched into Warcraft task force and StarCraft task force under the VG Project. WikiProject TimeSplitters has been deleted. Feature Writing about Gameplay The Gameplay section is a crucial component of a good video game article. Although it may be relatively easy for an experienced gamer to write such a section, care must be taken to maintain an appropriate focus and balance. The section should be written for readers with little or no knowledge of video gaming and should not be filled with detailed information about weapons, levels, or other such topics that are only of interest to the video gamer or that might be found in a game guide. Your goal for crafting a good section is to have people who have never picked up the game understand the basic mechanics. Do note, however, that it's safe to assume the reader has at least a minor knowledge of what a video game is. This section often begins the body text after the lead, but is sometimes placed after the Plot section. Games with little or no story can cover the plot in the Gameplay section. When writing about a game, use your head and common sense about the ordering. 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