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Thank you for protecting the page for another week and the link. Reading through all the help pages in here I was not finding WP:RFPP. --Gereon K. (talk) 22:23, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@Gereon K.: No worries! If you don't mind me asking, what help pages were you consulting? Sounds like maybe they could use an update! :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 22:52, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Vandalism for instance has a big banner saying "To report persistent vandalism, visit WP:AIV. Q10817957 on Wikidata has the link to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism but the link to the equivalent pages of most other language versions are much more general. I should have looked at Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual/Editing,_creating,_and_maintaining_articles/Dealing_with_vandalism_and_spam#Requesting_assistance_of_administrators but that I could only find in the overloaded Help:Directory. Just finding my way in here. :-) --Gereon K. (talk) 23:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I dunno, that missing manual is very outdated, I think. The Help directory probably also could use a facelift... for sure learning the ropes isn't exactly easy! Anyway I've updated the hatnote at Wikipedia:Vandalism, so hopefully that will help others as well. Thanks for providing this much needed input. We as a community really need to simplify our guides and help pages — MusikAnimal ^talk 23:29, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

You added a Betascript book as a source for Peel Sessions (The Smashing Pumpkins EP). Unfortunately, Betascript aka VDM Publishing write their books by copying Wikipedia. See WP:ALPHASCRIPT and WP:PUS for more info. Fences&Windows 00:50, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

@Fences and windows: Rats, I missed that! Thank you for both noticing and letting me know :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 01:38, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi again M. I am not sure how to get this Template:FACT out of the cat. It showed up a couple days ago when this request was made on Template talk:FACT. I thought that it might drop from the cat when the request was answered but it just moved to the redirect. I tried a null edit on that talk page but it made no difference. The template page is fully protected so I can't make any fixes there. Hopefully you will be able to figure out what is going on. As ever thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 18:31, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I just removed the protection info from ((this is a redirect)) and that worked. Based on the language, I think it implied the redirect itself is protected, which it is not. So should be good now. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:39, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Good deal. I've just notice that when you perform a null edit you put a space on the page before hitting save. Up until now I have simply opened the edit field and then hit save function. That has worked most of the time in getting a page out of the cat. I now know to try it both ways. MarnetteD|Talk 18:44, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Ah wait... a WP:NULLEDIT doesn't require a change. I've been doing it wrong, then! I guess what I did was for WP:DUMMY edits, so as to supply an edit summary — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:48, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I did not know the distinction between the two so thanks for adding to my learning about WikiP. That also helps to explain why my null edit didn't work but your dummy edit did in this situation. Ah the mysteries of Wikiprogamming only come clear a little at a time :-) MarnetteD|Talk 19:00, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy Saturday MA. User:BuickCenturyDriver showed up in the cat and as it is fully protected I can't get at it to fix things. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 11:08, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

hello, please note, despite the recent block, this SPA is still not learning about WP:RS. Semitransgenic _talk. 20:04, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

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17:56, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the AWB permission, hopefully you enjoyed the humor! I am working on upping my non-automated EC, but I came to Wikipedia to gnome, and that is what I plan on doing for the time being :) --allthefoxes ^(Talk) 03:43, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

I laughed out loud :) It's true that not everyone writes content, and that's okay. You seem to quite adept at gnoming so keep it up! — MusikAnimal ^talk 03:59, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Where do we report ip hopping vandals like found on Fireman Sam that you just protected? This is a pattern of abuse. Is SPI the right place (there's no associated account that I know of though). Or just to AIV? EvergreenFir (talk) Please ((re)) 16:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: If disruption is limited to just a few pages, than WP:RFPP is still the best route. Doesn't look like the IPs are all in the same range so blocking may not be effective. For a very long-term pattern of abuse you could open up a LTA case, meant only to document the disruption so we know how to better deal with it moving forward — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:01, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Cool, thank you. The user has hit various pages in the past, but the past day or two has limited themselves to the Fireman Sam pages for some reason. If they are relentless, I'll report to AIV just to stop the disruption. Hopefully the page protection will help. Thanks again! EvergreenFir (talk) Please ((re)) 17:13, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

No problem, and thank you for keeping an eye on the situation! — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:14, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Spoke too soon. They've moved on. I'll give "only warning" and go to AIV if they continue. EvergreenFir (talk) Please ((re)) 17:15, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Hey MusikAnimal. Did you get any further looking in to how we could enable the highlighting of indented replies? I'd be interested to see it proposed to the community to see what they think. Sam Walton (talk) 10:17, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

I have not. I can try to figure it out (probably just a config change), then maybe post at WP:VPI? I'd like to see if people are even in favour of the idea before making a formal proposal — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:41, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi MusikAnimal. Can you fully and indefinitely page protect these Tip-of-the-day Talk pages so we do not have to monitor them for vandalism? They are are set up as redirects to the Tip-of-the-day master Talk page. It would be a burden on us to monitor them and easy to miss changes to them. Thank you for your efforts in the Tip-of-the-day department and in the Articles for Improvement Department (TAFI).

(redirects at [5])

Cheers! ((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk} 06:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

@Checkingfax: Have we noticed vandalism on any of them as of yet? — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:43, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Trying to pre-empt it so we don't have to birddog them with our Watchlist's. We have no need to update the pages going forward so locking them down will not be an inconvenience to anybody. Cheers! ((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk} 18:47, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Alright, I've semi-protected all the pages. If disruption happens from confirmed users we can deal with them, but I don't particularly feel inclined to fully protect. In general we don't preemptively protect pages, but given the circumstances a little WP:IAR was exercised — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:12, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Per the marijuana dispensary page you just removed...

This should not redirect to medical cannabis. It should redirect to the article that was here before user Viriditas hastily removed it using the following uncited reason: " (Viriditas moved page Marijuana dispensary to Medical cannabis dispensary: "Marijuana" is a non-neutral term popularized by racists and prohibitionists) "

Can someone please bring the page that belongs here back from the draft mode Viriditas incorrectly placed it in?

--Potguru (talk) 23:03, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

@Potguru: As I said on your talk page, your draft exists in full at Draft:Cannabis dispensary. I'm not sure it's ready for the mainspace just yet. There are numerous editors working on that draft, perhaps you could consult them on the talk page to see if they feel it's time to move the article over. This is a controversial subject, so it's important to ensure we've got it in good shape, especially when other editors have expressed concern that it is not ready for the encyclopedia. — MusikAnimal ^talk 23:36, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism still occurs. Extend PC? --George Ho (talk) 08:16, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Greetings, After Tip of the Day protection changes, my entire Watchlist is gone. Any way of getting it back?  JoeHebda (talk)  19:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh boy. Well obviously, your watchlist will eventually go back to the way it was... In the meantime you may wish to unwatch those pages altogether. You can do this fairly quickly with User:Anomie/unwatch.js. Alternatively you could select "Wikipedia talk" from the "Namespace" dropdown, then check the "Invert selection" option and click on "Show". This will show everything in your watchlist except Wikipedia_talk pages, which is what all those protections were to. Sorry for the inconvenience! — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

MusikAnimal – First of all, apology accepted. Wondering why this change was made without any discussion & consensus at Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day? Most of the work updating & improving this project is being done by myself and Checkingfax and The Transhumanist. All 366 daily tips are on my watchlist to monitor for errors & spam, so I'm not about to unwatch them. Secondly, being still somewhat new here at Wikipedia, and curious, could you explain the effect of this change?  JoeHebda (talk)  00:56, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: No real change was made on my part. I merely semi-protected these permanent redirects to Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day, meaning only confirmed users can edit them. That cuts out most chances of disruption, as users with 10+ edits over a 4-day period are considerably less likely to be disruptive. However I was wrong to say you could unwatch the pages, as unwatching talk pages means you unwatch the corresponding subject page (e.g. Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day/January 20 and it's subject page Wikipedia:Tip of the day/January 20). The subject pages are not semi'd as far as I know, so you'd still want to monitor them :) Hopefully that clears things up. Best — MusikAnimal ^talk 01:50, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi JoeHebda. It was my fault. I did not realize the downside of requesting that. I considered it to be a simple helpful task and it only took MusikAnimal a couple of minutes to pull it off because of his Admin toolbox. I noticed that Talk pages for tips were either unused, full on nonsense, tests, spam, or had weird unanswered questions because nobody was monitoring them so I converted them to Redirects with AWB and then asked MusikAnimal to protect them from future changes since we do not use them and all future correspondence will therefore land on our Project Talk page. I promise to discuss such changes in the future. PS: It only clogged up about 1/3rd of my Watchlist which I quickly paged down and past. But, I honestly did not realize it would do what it did. Now I know. Cheers! ((u|Checkingfax)) {Talk} 02:06, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

MusikAnimal and Checkingfax – Thank you for explaining. Cheers!  JoeHebda (talk)  12:46, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much for improving the Twinkle CSD module. Have something sweet with your coffee and a fresh rose still on the bush. Bishonen | talk 16:33, 21 January 2016 (UTC).

Thank you Bishonen!! More updates to come, but glad to see some of you are enjoying what we've come up with thus far :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:39, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

The page protection request for Fianna Fail was without foundation, the section that was edited that was "sourced", was POV in favor of the political party, and the source used was a Fianna Fail statement by one of their politicians. There even had been no consensus to include that section. There was no "disruptive editing" contrary to what the submitter stated, and the explanation for removing the "reliably sourced material" aka political posturing or spin etc, was already given.

Note: Be aware of positive spin being added on other Irish political party pages also, there is an election within a month. Tyrsóg (talk) 10:32, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

The content dispute is outside the scope of why I semi'd the page. There was repeated reversions of edits from anonymous users, by multiple editors, that tells my semi-protection will force discussion. This is opposed to full-protection, where only admins can edit. That is not ideal as we're shutting out everyone from editing, even the uninvolved. Semi-protection doesn't mean I'm taking sides — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:27, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for responding so quickly to my AIV request about REAGLE2017 and for providing a great resolution. In veritas (talk) 17:26, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Yum! Thank you! — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:39, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Please see this request at RFPP. An editor wants full protection of Bach extended for the duration of the new RfC. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:27, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

The request for clarification in which you were involved has been archived at WT:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 3. For the Arbitration Committee, Miniapolis 20:53, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

@Miniapolis: I admittedly don't really understand the process on those ArbCom pages... was there a "result" or closing statement to go with those closures? — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:08, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I've been puzzled by the same thing. It's most likely a no-action result. Or the kind of a request that expires off ANI without being closed. It doesn't mean that there was truly no issue found, but, that no decision was arrived at in the available time. EdJohnston (talk) 18:32, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

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16:39, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

As soon as the protection block is removed from University of Georgia, one or more IP users proceed with multiple acts of vandalism. Abel (talk) 17:22, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

@Id4abel: Sorry I didn't get to this in time! Looks like it's calmed down. If disruption resume feel free to let me know or make a request at WP:RFPP — MusikAnimal ^talk 15:20, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I'm a sysop from fr:wp where we plan on implementing some restrictions similar to yours regarding edits on the Arab-Israli conflict related articles. I had a look on Special:AbuseFilter/698, from what I could understand (though I could be totally misled) few articles related to this theme are already included in the filter. Do you plan on including other articles related to this theme there ? Otherwise by which mean do you monitor the hundreds of articles included in the Arbcom decision ? Regards. PS enjoy your holidays in Belize ;-) --Kimdime (talk) 22:09, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

@Kimdime: Hey! Sorry for the late reply :) With 698 we manually enter all the affected pages. There is some controversy in using a filter-enforced editing restriction, so here we've only included articles explicitly endorsed by ArbCom. If you plan on enforcing 30/500 in an arbitrary number of articles, there is a template/filter solution you could consider. That works by using ((pp-30-500)) in conjunction with two filters: 748 which checks for the presence of ((pp-30-500)) and enforces the editing restriction, and 749 which ensures only admins can add/remove the template from a page. The template itself does nothing more than put a blue padlock icon on the page. This template/filter solution was tested here and worked quite well, but again there is opposition on its usage, so we've disabled them and left just 698 running. Finally, you could just consult the WMF to implement a new 30/500 autopromotion user group, which is what is currently being discussed here. Hope this helps! — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:28, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Blocked user won't stop.
Please check six seven six log.
Many thanks to you.

In English, on Wikipedia:Edit_filter/Requested/Archive_6#Link_Smurf, you said that in three weeks, this particular edit filter only got one hit. Could you double check the log to see if that is still the case? –Fredddie™ 22:40, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@Fredddie: I've re-enabled it. I'll let you know if it gets any hits and we'll go from there. Best — MusikAnimal ^talk 23:15, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@Fredddie: This is getting hits [13] — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:12, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Nice, not that I can see the log. Where do we go from here? –Fredddie™ 22:32, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

@Fredddie: Ah, I guess you can't see the log! If you could please email me and I can provide you with some diffs. I'm pretty sure the filter hits are our guy but I'd like you to confirm, then we can explore the next steps. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 22:36, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

A couple more questions. Now that the filter is disallowing edits, could you make it public so I can see the hits on the log? Or is there a policy or practice that says it should stay private? I have heard from another editor that our vandal has moved on to the Test Wiki. –Fredddie™ 15:28, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

@Fredddie: We tend to keep filters about long term vandals private so that they can't look into how to avoid it. There's no way to separate the log from the filter in this regard because particularly inventive users could use the log to work out what they need to do to avoid it. The last hit was yesterday on the account Imzadi1978. Sam Walton (talk) 16:01, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

@Samwalton9: thanks for the explanation. This was what I figured was going on, but I didn't think it would hurt to ask. –Fredddie™ 16:07, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

@Fredddie: No worries. If you want more info about the filter feel free to email me or the mailing list. Sam Walton (talk) 16:32, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm wondering if it's a good idea to expand the scope of this filter (to all articles) or if the scope is supposed to be narrow. –Fredddie™ 02:04, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

It is narrow for performance reasons. We can expand it to include other articles as needed — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:36, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi MA. Please could you cast an eye at this disruptive IP's edits. They continue to deliberately and blatantly change sourced sales figures to ones they prefer, something they have already been blocked for in the past. Much obliged! Robvanvee 16:13, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Looks like Katie took care of it. She's great at picking up my slack =P — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:38, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

The bot hasn't been updating the stats at the three RfAs since January 30. Cyberpower678 apparently hasn't been on-wiki since January 28. Anything you (or someone else) can do to fix this?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:18, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

@Bbb23: I think that's all Cyberpower and nothing anyone else would be able to fix. I know he was having computer issues a little while back and was unable to tend to the bots, but I assume that's been resolved. It probably just needs to be restarted or something. I'll shoot him an email. Best — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:30, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:34, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

You may not see me as active, but I'm still actively responsive. I've been busy working on Cyberbot II's newest code.—^cyberpower_Chat:Online 17:10, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

And it looks like it's working again, so I assume you did something. Thanks! In the future, should I e-mail you as MA did, or should I just leave you a message on Talk?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:56, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

I didn't actually get around to writing that email =P I think he has it set to get emails for talk page messages, though — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:03, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

And when someone mentions me. The devs at MW keep changing session management stuff corrupting the bot's cookies. I restarted them to refresh the cookies.:p—^cyberpower_Chat:Online 20:36, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks! I forgot all about it — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:09, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hey MusikAnimal, I saw you granted chesnaught rollback. I am a little concerned that this was his second edit after you granted the tool. I was actually going to go decline just now based on that edit but saw you had acted on it earlier in the day. Just concerning that that's his response to vandals. Not the best temperament in my mind for someone who will be reverting vandalism with the tool. Would you mind taking a look and reconsider or at least talk to him about it? only (talk) 20:21, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Only: Yes, my apologies. I was angry, I shouldn't have been editing, I hope you can see past that. I am a good editor generally, I would say it was due to the fact that Alex was harassing me but that's no excuse. Once again, sorry. If you want to revoke it, do so; I understand. Ches (talk) 20:23, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Ches's reply here is satisfies me. That IP and it's WP:DUCK counterpart are obviously up to no good, but you'll have to learn not to let vandals get to you. In the realm of counter-vandalism this is commonplace, so just revert and ignore. — MusikAnimal ^talk 20:42, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm satisfied as well. But, Ches, do recognize that had that happened earlier, I would have definitely denied rollback. You haven't had a lot of edits so far on Wikipedia (in the grand scheme of things), so an edit such as that would have definitely stood out as a "black mark" so to speak. Be sure to head MuiskAnimal's advice on how to carry yourself in vandal work as you go forward. only (talk) 22:00, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Revert and ignore. I'll remember that from now on, and in future I'll make sure I'm in the right frame of mind to edit, promise. Ches (talk) 07:37, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello again MA. Template:Disambiguation name showed up in the incorrect protection template category. I think it has something to do with the attempt to redirect it and the subsequent reversal. Hopefully you can figure this out. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 18:59, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Oops missed the vacation notice at the top of your page. This can wait and I hope that you are having a marvelous time!! MarnetteD|Talk 19:01, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Welcome back - when you get back that is :-) Just wanted to update you that your bot dealing with the cat seems to be humming along nicely. When you get the time to check on the template I mentioned you might also check on the Francis Crick and Planet Nine articles as I can't figure out how to get them out of the cat either. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 00:37, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

@MarnetteD: Thanks, Belize was incredible! Also glad to hear the bot is performing well :) Not sure what's going on with that template. As for Francis Crick and Planet Nine, they both had ((pp-move-indef)) when move-protection was only restricted to autoconfirmed users. This is invalid use because unconfirmed users aren't able to move pages anyway. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:42, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Darn, that has come up before. I will try and remember it next time :-) Did you bring us any coffee beans? Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 18:33, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

I shamefully didn't indulge in enough coffee while I was there :/ The rum of course was superb, but the big thing that stuck out for me was the hot sauce. I brought back several bottles. Marie Sharp's is the brand, and I shall start that article. I think it is deserving, but admittedly I'm not sure what the notability guideline is on hot sauce =P Anyway I think you can order that stuff on Amazon. Get the smokey habanero, and if you are a really, really, REALLY brave spice eater, try the one called "BEWARE" :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:42, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the info!! As someone who has enjoyed hot sauce from a young age I will have to try some. My rule is "if, after consuming it, my lips burn due to the oxygen crossing them with each breath" then I might use only a teeny tiny amount. Everything else is just fine :-D MarnetteD|Talk 19:03, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

I may have tracked down what is going on with the template M. This is what the page looked like before the redirect. When Dispenser undid their redirect they didn't go back to the way the page had been. Instead they replaced it with Template:Refer which is perm protected. I am not sure what is the best way to deal with this. One is to revert back to the old version and the other is to add the noinclude command to the "Template:Refer" - I can't do the second one as it is fully protected. Whichever of these you chose is fine with me. Have a nice week in spite of the fact that it wont be as fun as the last one. MarnetteD|Talk 00:01, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Update: Things have been taken care of by Paine Ellsworth (many thanks) so you don't need to check on anything. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:15, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

I was just wondering if MusikBot should have an edit summary when archiving scheduled entries at WP:TAFI. I feel it may be a good idea because it will show what MusikBot had edited for. I was thinking about "Adding ARTICLE to the schedules archive" Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 05:22, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

No problem. I went with "Archiving scheduled entry for week N", instead of posting the name of the article. That's because it's actually adding a subpage that transcludes the article name. If that subpage were to be changed the edit summary would then have been inaccurate. Thanks for the suggestion! — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:25, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Nice job on Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Drmies (talk) 19:09, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

@Drmies: Hey, you too!! I try to keep it nice and clean, but what, 15 minutes ago, there was a huge flood of reports. Thankfully you were there to give an extra hand! Many thanks for WikiLove :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:12, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, and there was some rev/deletion as well. Yuk. Drmies (talk) 19:17, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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An admirer
Appears. Suspicious? Indeed.
Thank you for your time.

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Thank you for letting me know! And for the beautiful haiku :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:37, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks; I try. GAB^Hello! 21:45, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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Hey MusikAnimal,

That account is actually a vandalism only account and a sock of User:Tdrhsnam. There has been a long term problem with them adding anime character to Capital punishment in Japan. Could you block indef instead of 24 hours? Thanks. --Majora (talk) 19:17, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Done, thanks — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Hey - how was Belize? I've heard it's beautiful - have a friend who's been diving there several times. Hope you're refreshed and recharged! :-)

Katie is here today because Katie needs her access to the ACC interface restored for UTRS (have an appeal from a guy caught in a rangeblock who needs a username created) and she's wandering the hallways knocking on doors to find someone to do it. The lovely "you haven't been here for 45 days, so eat worms" message says to ask Stifle, but Stifle says he hasn't had ACC access himself for years and the message needs to be changed. Can you help, and if you can't, do you know whose doorway I should knock on next? Katie^talk 12:29, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

@KrakatoaKatie: Hey Katie! Belize was awesome! Lots of Commons photos coming soon. I didn't get to dive the Great Blue Hole but I hear it's just a dark abyss with no marine life so maybe it's nothing to complain about. The reefs just offshore were plenty amazing :) I am not actually involved with the account creation team so can't help you there. You need to an ACC admin, they are listed here. Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:57, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Katie^talk 17:05, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

(Note that this doodle is only targeted to German users of Google.)

Just a note in re. Special:Diff/703209364: For this collaboration it is an exception as the genesis one, but only doodles with a reach of more than 50 countries will have an associated notice. Esquivalience ^t 04:05, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

@Esquivalience: Good to know! Just curious, how are you able to gauge the global reach of a doodle? We might want to consider a different way of determining what doodles get the spotlight. For instance the Independence Day (United States) article is going to attract a wealth of attention on 4 July, even though the doodle would only be visible in the US. Also, what about when there are multiple doodles? I know this project has just began, and we might still have some things to iron out, and that's okay. Lest you be concerned, I definitely want to be a part of it, I'm just content with watching Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Google Doodle task force/article to see the new collaborations :) Thanks for helping put this together! — MusikAnimal ^talk 04:24, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi there. I'm User:Vaselineeeeeeee. I noticed you gave approvals etc to some users in the rollbacking request page. I've had some interest in the past few months about the application for rollback and pending changes review. I read that it is given to trusted users etc who revert vandalism etc. I've been on Wikipedia for almost two years now, but only started seriously editing in the past 8 months or so. The reason for this question is that I have a concern that in my early days, I didn't take Wikipedia seriously and entered a few rather pointless edit wars, causing me to be blocked several times. I was also accused of sock-puppetry and an investigation was filed against me. I am afraid to apply since administrators might take one look at that and deny me right way... I truly have made a full 360 as an editor, I understand most of the rules and truly believe I deserve these rights, as vandalism has no place in my book any longer. If you guys were to look at my edits in the past 8 months, you'd be very pleased. Do you think I should still apply, or would I be denied right away, or would the administrators assume good faith of my past positive contributions? Thanks for your time! Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 04:00, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

@Vaselineeeeeeee: Hello! Glad to see you've turned over a new leaf, as you say. Many people have a rough start and prosper into prolific and well-respected editors, so don't feel discouraged. Taking a quick look at your recent contributions, I'm not sure if rollback is appropriate just yet. One of the more important things is distinguishing good-faith edits from vandalism, and acting accordingly. For instance this edit seems to constitute good-faith, and while it may still be inappropriate, you should supply an informative edit summary saying why that is the case. This edit is actually constructive, and preferable for some, as the addition of / will correct syntax highlighters that don't know that <br> is an empty element. I assume you didn't know that because it purely techy mumbo jumbo, so no worries, the point I guess is to be cautious about reverting and try to do it only when necessary. If you want to get more involved with fighting vandalism, I recommend enrolling in the counter-vandalism academy. If you complete training there you will surely be granted rollback by any sensible admin. Hope this helps, and keep up the great work! :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 04:35, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

	Peacemaker67 RfA Appreciation award
	Thank you for participating and supporting at my RfA. It was very much appreciated, and I am humbled that the community saw fit to trust me with the tools. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:12, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

	the Volunteer Coders Rule! Award
	... to thank you once again for fixing the Page Views problem. (I felt like kissing you, but didn't want to mess up my screen, so I'll settle for offering you a beer.) MelanieN (talk) 22:13, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Haha thank you MelanieN, fortunately most of the work was already done by wmf:User:Mforns (WMF) – he is the one who really deserves the barnstar. I'd prefer to keep the beer (and the kiss) for myself, though, if that's alright :) I still plan to improve the tool more, but at least we've got something up that works! Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 22:19, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Wow, so a WMF person actually pitched in and did it! I take back all the nasty things I was saying about the WMF. But I bet you recruited him to do it, didn't you? --MelanieN (talk) 22:26, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Nope. The demo has been up since mid-November, I just didn't realize it was both an accurate working prototype, and also an all-frontend app that I could fork and edit myself. For a web developer it's silly I didn't realize this, as the whole premise is the WMF made an pageview API, meaning you don't need a backend. That may or may not make any sense... anyway it's here now, and here to stay :) The forthcoming WMF official tool and/or the one the commtech is working on I think will be much more full-featured — MusikAnimal ^talk 22:49, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

@MelanieN: Saw your last comment at WP:VPT and have some semi-bad news... The data you're seeing now is going to be dramatically higher than what the old tool would report, since the pageview API includes mobile views whereas stats.grok.se did not. So not sure if your DYK still breaks the record for most-viewed :/ But the good news is we now finally have data that is not grossly inaccurate!! I'm curious as to what the DYK project is planning on doing. The new data only goes back as far as August 1st, 2015. Anything reported before then cannot be compared with the new data, as they are measured differently. Anyway thanks for making this little project so rewarding :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 07:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Maybe they're going to have to change the rules for what "goes into the record books"; up to now it's been 5,000 views. They may have to change that after they see how February goes. The actual numbers aren't terribly important to me, I'm just glad that article (Sandy Cornish, if you're interested) got a lot of viewers. I had hoped and sort of expected that it would; very interesting subject. --MelanieN (talk) 14:47, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

P.S. The numbers may not turn out to be all that different after all. I just compared a DYK of mine from December 2015: it had 1194 views per the old system and 1258 per the new system. That's only a 5% increase. --MelanieN (talk) 15:24, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Hey, MusikAnimal, a question – is this project that you and Marcel Ruiz Forns are working on part of the Community Tech/Pageview stats tool project? Or is your work on your Page Views tool just coincidental and/or ancillary to the 2015 Community Wishlist Survey/Top 10 projects?... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 08:03, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

@IJBall: Coincidental. I did not know about the commtech project until after I created this fork of the demo. I guess I should try to team up with them. Originally for me it was just a temporary project to get something up for people to use, but now I think I'd like to dedicate more time to it and add more features — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:31, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

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Wasn't sure if this one is in your watchlist. --Drm310 (talk) 00:38, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! — MusikAnimal ^talk 00:53, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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	The Technical Barnstar
	Great work getting a new page views tool up and running - this is very much appreciated. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 11:07, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! It's turning out to be a very fun project. More updates to come :) — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:18, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello M. Thanks for the block on this one. It is appreciated. Would it be possible to rev/del the personal attacks in the edit summaries? Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 16:17, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Removed the more offensive ones. Best — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:25, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, thanx Mlpearc (open channel) 16:29, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Many thanks. What about this one? If you are okay with it then no worries. As you say it wasn't as obnoxious as the others. Happy Chinese Year of the Monkey!! MarnetteD|Talk 16:31, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

18:58, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello! Some time ago I wrote a PHP program that calculates monthly page view statistics for a group of articles, using statistics data available from stats.grok.se. Unfortunately, stats.grok.se hasn't been updated since January 21, 2016, which effectively makes it no longer usable. A fellow editor who also uses the PHP program pointed out the availability of tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews to me, and I had a look into it as a replacement for stats.grok.se.

Basically, what I need is the ability to fetch JSON-encoded statistics data from my PHP program, but I don't see how would that be possible for the current state of tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews? For example, January 2016 statistics for a single article does provide a "download JSON" link on the page, but the click on it seems to be handled by some JavaScript code, which effectively makes it unusable to my PHP program. Any chances, please, for having a GET parameter that would make JSON data to be returned instead of a HTML page, similarly to how stats.grok.se does it?

Any help would be appreciated, and thank you for all your work on tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews! — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 19:11, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

@Dsimic: I figured this request was coming. Unfortunately, my tool is all clientside and cannot produce an endpoint that responds with JSON. I do have a backend on labs, so I could implement an API for you... BUT, the Wikimedia Foundation has already done this! I'm going to guess what they offer will fulfill your needs... see the documentation here — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:18, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

That page views data API looks great, I'll have a look into it. Thank you! — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 19:30, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello, your tool pageviews shows for wikt:de:projít one view click (it changes the first letter to uppercase?). On the other side I get 8 views: click. Can you ps explain me, why there is a difference? --Betterknower (talk) 20:36, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Page loaded, I clicked on touchscreen, then it updated itself putting the rollback link in the spot where I'd clicked. Sorry. Bazj (talk) 17:00, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

@Bazj: No problem! There is a default-enabled gadget that requires confirmation for rollback on touch screen devices. Maybe you disabled it? Check Require confirmation before performing rollback on mobile devices at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:05, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, that's still set. The confirmation pops up, I click Cancel, and it reverts regardless. Bazj (talk) 17:17, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

@Bazj: Really!?!?!? I will look into that! What browser/device are you using? — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:21, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Chrome on a Google Nexus 5 using the desktop version of the Wiki. But it's got to have detected I'm on a mobile device to have fired the pop-up. Bazj (talk) 17:30, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

I tried using Chrome on a Nexus 6P, in desktop, and hitting "Cancel" in the pop-up aborted the rollout. From a JavaScript perspective, I don't know how this could be broken – not that I'm doubting you! — MusikAnimal ^talk 18:19, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Wikipages can take a longish time to load on my phone, 5-10 seconds, perhaps due to the amount of stuff in my common.js. If the browser grabs my click before all the js has loaded...? Just a guess. Cheers, Bazj (talk) 21:44, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

That is a very good guess, however it being a gadget it's behind ResourceLoader, so it should load before the document is ready. By contrast, everything in your common.js is loaded after the document is ready. If you're ever around a fast internet connection, try it out again and see if it works, if you get a chance. Thanks — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:48, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

It won't be down to the speed. The phone's connected to the home wi-fi which is running at 72 Mbps right now.

I've tried disabling a couple of scripts from my common.js, User:NuclearWarfare/Mark-blocked script.js which calls to ru: and User:Zhaofeng_Li/Reflinks.js (reFill) which calls to meta: and which I can run from a bookmarklet when I need it. I'll give it a couple of days and see how it goes. Regards, Bazj (talk) 16:05, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Musik. I am going to be working at the Yale Art+Feminism Wikipedia Training and Edit-a-thon. The organizers are hoping to have somebody create lots of accounts for the attendees. What do you think is the best way to approach this. I have no experience in the area, though I am an administrator. Jehochman ^Talk 17:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

@Jehochman: You can create accounts here. For this purpose you should not check "Ignore spoofing checks" or "Ignore the blacklist" (but you could if you were creating a doppelgänger, for instance). Beyond that I honestly am not too sure about the procedure either. I imagine you assign a default password which you would then ask them to change. When in doubt you can defer to the account creation team. Also feel free to assign the account creator right to other users who want to help create accounts for the event. Just make sure you can trust them, and that they know not to check the ignore spoofing and blacklist options. Additionally, it is standard procedure to remove the account creator right after the event has concluded, so don't forget to do that. Hope this helps! — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:26, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) You can click the "use a temporary random password" button, and they'll be emailed an automatically generated password that they can change. Sam Walton (talk) 23:06, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Aha! That makes significantly more sense :) I always wondered what the procedure was — MusikAnimal ^talk 23:48, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice! It's really helpful. Jehochman ^Talk 02:36, 10 February 2016 (UTC)