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Hi Paleorthid,

you asked, "Do you have an opinion on the term lunar soil? Is it useful only in a popular context, or is it potentially acceptable in scientific circles?"

I'm a lunar soil scientist (I work for NASA and that's what I mainly work on). We use "lunar soil" as our main terminology. "Soil" tends to imply the finer material, not including rocks or boulders, whereas "regolith" includes rocks and boulders. So the two terms are not exactly interchangeable.

There were a couple of published journal articles several decades ago that argued whether or not "soil" is a valid term in the lunar case because the Moon has no organic content. Generally on Earth "soil" refers only to material that has organic content; otherwise, we use "sand" or "mud" or some such term when there is no organic content. However, the consensus among **lunar** scientists is to use "lunar soil" even though it has no organic content, so that is the correct term. All the best scientific publications use that term.Sanddune777 (talk) 04:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You asked questions that are outside my area of competence! I'm a physicist (not a chemist) and so I am interested in the physical propoerties of soil -- particle size distribution, mineral strengths, etc. I really don't know about the energetics of diurnal insolation. What I do know is that there is a "gardening" effect on the Moon in that micrometeroids, too small the get through Earth's atmosphere, constantly pulverize the soil breaking particles into smaller particles and creating significant melt-glass that glues smaller particles back together again. This is the predominant process on the Moon, but I don't know much about the chemical effects. Sorry I can't be more help! Sanddune777 (talk) 00:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for raising the question in the WP:REF arena, and for your kind note to me on my talk page. I was fearing that u and i could only agree to disagree; this is better. As I develop in my posting in the WP:REF talk, I have tried to raise this issue in several ways including in two wikiprojects mentioned there. It has also been discussed in WP:NRHP where I have done most of my wikipedia work (specializing in National Historic Landmarks of the U.S.), having come up in regards to the Bathhouse Row article that SEWilco and I have had a row about. In WP:NRHP there have been few intrusions of the PD copying, and I hope that it stays that way. One recent instance brought me to the "USGovernment" template. Again I appreciate you elevated the issue constructively; I am unfamiliar with Request For Comment procedure which you seem to have started up.

BTW, it appears to me that an edit you made on the WP:REF talk page should have placed the question on the "RFCstyle list", but when i click on the RFCstyle list at the top of that page I am brought to a list of RFCs that does not include this question. Perhaps you can verify the question is raised as you meant it to be.

Sincerely, doncram (talk) 22:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

We share a fundamental concern: supporting the ability of future generations to verify specific elements of evolved PD content. Your approach has merit, however it is not viable in its present incarnation. About the RFC, I think we are waiting on User:RFC_bot. --Paleorthid (talk) 23:47, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The RFC bot visited, then revisited and indicated an error. Something needs to be fixed for it to work. doncram (talk) 01:10, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yep. I'm on my 3rd attempt. I could use your help if you are so inclined. So far I've compared mine with the successful RFCstyle tags and the only difference I have found so far is with the section header format: the successful ones have no space between == and the header text. I've edited accordingly. If that turns out to be the issue, I'll add it to the template documentation. If that's not it, I am tapped out so I'll post for help. Just a matter of time... --Paleorthid (talk) 01:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi Paleorthid, I have not been logged into Wiki for quite some time. Just logged in and saw some info about some soil profiles (Narragansett and Paxton) I uploaded a while back being removed. Not sure how to get them approved but all my images are available to public, USDA soil survey staff images, etc. I will try to refresh on getting them back up but if you know how to approve them go for it. Got a bunch of soil profiles at: http://picasaweb.google.com/JimTurenne/SoilPhotos if interested. Jimjet (talk) 23:32, 22 December 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I have nominated Talk:List of Universities with Soil Science Curriculum, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Talk:List of Universities with Soil Science Curriculum. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Adoniscik^{(t, c)} 22:43, 9 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The article you created, List_of_Universities_with_Soil_Science_Curriculum maybe deleted from Wikipedia.

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I have nominated Category:Soil stub candidates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for renaming to Category:Soil stubs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 03:29, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Paleorthid

I am a postgraduate student, studying bio-chemistry. I saw that you edited the site on Osmosis and I am currently writing a report on the topic and need additional information/authenticity. So I was wondering if you could help me. What qualifications do you have and/or what were the sources you used? Email me on sam77maine@gmail.com

Thank you for your help Samantha Maine —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samantha Maine (talk • contribs) 11:32, 23 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello: I've decided to try to spend some time editing the soils pages on Wikipedia; a lot of those have your name on them, altho dating from some years ago. Specifically, I wanted to try to expand the Pedology page, which references Edaphology and several other soils-related topics.

I've used this site alot, but am new to editing; I've left a comment on Pedology, and wanted to give you a heads up. Not many soils people seem to edit this site; I dont know your background, and would like to coordinate on updating some of these pages. --Soilguy71 (talk) 23:03, 19 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've reviewed your thoughts on edaphology. As a UC-educated pedologist steeped in soil taxonomy, I can appreciate this line of thinking, and even subscribed to it until about 10 years ago. I believe strongly that a grounding in pedology is the most prized skill set to have for practicing edaphology. Pedology is integrative of the other disciplines of soil science, including edaphology. However, this integrative relationship doesn't require edaphology to abdicate equal branch standing. The integrative position is the same logic that is used to dismiss soil science's equal standing with geology, or to characterize the pedosphere as a layer of the lithosphere.

Pedology is the study of soil in a natural setting.

Edaphology is the study of soil effects on (and from) plants, animals and man. Edaphic effects are not predicated on a natural setting.

There is considerable overlap between the two disciplines, but it is not complete. Equal branch standing is necessary to allow soil science to cover the study of soil that exists outside of a natural context. Without this standing, the core of agricultural soil science becomes solely a subdiscipline of the agricultural sciences, with a parallel fate for environmental soil science. That was certainly the situation with Wikipedia in 2004. Soil science articles were categorized as agriculture, engineering, geography, and/or geology. Now both soil and soil science enjoy their own categorical hierarchies. The soil science hierarchy enjoys equal standing with geology as one of the earth science.

It has been particularly useful to maintain edaphology as a sister of pedology within the categorization structure of Wikipedia. Pedology, as distinct from edaphology, is categorized as a sub-discipline of both soil science and physical geography, a placement that has a long and substantial history to it. It is also a placement that edaphology does not share.

Vasily Dokuchaev, the father of modern soil science, was a geographer. What existed before Dokuchaev was soil science sans pedology, and was termed agricultural geology. Soil-science-sans-pedology continues to thrive, especially outside of the United State. It will not conform to sub-discipline standing under pedology. --Paleorthid (talk) 21:27, 21 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You asked about sulfur creation. I got my info from the Silicon Burning page of wikipedia, which referenced the following link:

• Origin of Heavy Elements, by Tufts University

I added that link to external references for Sulfur —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gurps npc (talk • contribs) 17:08, 10 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have nominated List of universities with soil science curriculum, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of universities with soil science curriculum. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

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Keep

• Gazetteers. Per WP:5, Wikipedia incorporates elements of general and specialized encyclopedias, almanacs, and gazetteers. This list is the type of information that one would expect to find in a specialized gazetteer.
• List. This list fits the general purpose of a list per WP:List. Like categories, lists can be used for keeping track of changes in the listed pages, using the Related Changes feature. Unlike a category, a list also allows detection of deletion of its entries, and, more generally, a history of its contents is available; lists also permit a large number of entries to appear on a single page. Normally, identifying universities with specific program emphasis is handled by categorization, and I have considered using list of universities with soil science curriculum as the main article for a Category. I'd prefer to keep the article list because soil science seldom shows at the college or even department level. In the absence of that prominence, the article's references support notability and allow verification in a way not achievable with a category listing. As stated in the guideline Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_series_boxes#Advantages_of_lists an advantage of a list over categorization is that "lists can be referenced to justify the inclusion of listed articles". That advantage is certainly in play in list of universities with soil science curriculum, and it certainly fits the stated purpose of a list:
  • Information. This list fits the specific purpose of an informational list per Wikipedia:List#Information. It is a "valuable information source" both because of its structure, the notability of its content, and the notability of soil science program listings.
  • Navigation. This list fits the specific purpose of a navigational list per Wikipedia:List#Navigation. Lists contains internally linked terms and thus in aggregate serve as natural table of contents and index of Wikipedia information.
  • Development. This list is available for the purpose of identifying and developing articles for notable universities per Wikipedia:List#Development. As noted in the essay Wikipedia:Categories_vs_lists, "Categories can't include page names that don't exist yet. Lists can." Listed soil science programs are useful as gap indicators and as task reminders to create those articles once notability can be sourced.
• Directory. The basis for nomination is WP Policy: Wikipedia is not a directory. Taken literally, this is a problem - every list on Wikipedia is a defacto directory to Wikipedia content. To avoid the conundrum inherent in taking the policy literally, WP:NOTDIR provides 7 distinct situations that should be excluded from Wikipedia. None compel deletion of the list in question, but subsections 3, 4, 6, and 7 seem the most likely to have been considered in this nomination.
  • 3 - Wikipedia articles are not the white or yellow pages. A listing that includes contact information such as phone numbers, fax numbers and email addresses is inappropriate. This list does not violate this principle.
  • 4 - Wikipedia articles are not directories, directory entries, electronic program guide, or a resource for conducting business. A listing whose primary purpose is to attract participants, tourists, contributors, clients, students, site traffic, and such, is inappropriate. In the case of this list, the primary purpose is to index notable universities that provide education in a notable field: soil science.
  • 6 - Wikipedia articles are not non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations. However, this list is an encyclopedic cross characterization because both categories, universities, and soil science, are notable.
  • 7 - Wikipedia articles are not a complete exposition of all possible details. Rather, an article is a summary of accepted knowledge. Verifiable and sourced statements are important. The list is largely based on information provided by the Natural Resources Conservation Service and PSSAC but each entry not sourced from NRCS or PSSAC generally has a link verifying the soil science curriculum. In one case WikiProject Soil participants removed a listing that we could not independently verify. This is consistent with an article intended to achieve a summary of accepted knowledge.

Notability. Lack of notability has been implied as important to the deletion nomination. [1] In the case of Not a Directory #3, the inference required to trigger deletion is that "a list of soil science universities is not notable, therefore its primary purpose in the absence of notability must be self serving, that is, for conducting business". Notability is a guideline, thus less compelling than policy, but it clearly affects how WP:NOTDIR policy is applied. Guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability state: "If an article fails to cite sufficient sources to demonstrate the notability of its subject, look for sources yourself." and policy at Wikipedia:BEFORE#Before_nominating_an_article_for_deletion is "When nominating due to sourcing or notability concerns, make a good-faith attempt to confirm that such sources don't exist." In this case, links to sources that demonstrate notability were present in the article at the time it was nominated. In the case of the NRCS source, it was improperly placed under a further reading heading, but a good faith attempt should have revealed it and triggered the recognition that this article meets the spirit of what we editors want to retain within Wikipedia.

See also

• Wikipedia:Categories_vs_lists
• Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_series_boxes

Related AfD or Deletion Discussion, sorted by result

No consensus

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_academic_computer_science_departments

There was no consensus that the list was OR, and no consensus that the nature of the information was indiscriminate. The keep arguments specifically addressed those allegations and, while its likely that they did not to so to everybody's satisfaction, it's enough to keep the article. April 2008.

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of institutions granting degrees in cognitive science

The result of the debate was no consensus tending towards keep. Addressed listcruft and WP:NOTDIR. June 2006.

Discussed, never nominated for deletion

• Talk:List_of_systems_engineering_at_universities

July 2007

Redirect

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Polytechnics_In_Malaysia

The result was redirect to Education in Malaysia#Vocational Programmes and Polytechnics Schools. "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of info so the collection of schools should be notable within itself. The list is already given in this article, where it mentioned within the context of education in Malaysia. I think this is a better place to present the material and this article should redirect to the one with the broader scope." September 2009

Delete

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Universities_offering_Engineering_Programs_in_Pakistan

The result was delete. "Wikipedia is not a directory: this is just a list of universities sharing two important characteristics, but is not an article (or a list that is acceptable on Wikipedia)." and "Wikipedia is not a substitute for a college catalogue." August 2009

Similar AfD, sorted by result

Withdrawn

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Educational_Institutions_in_Karaikal

The result was Withdrawn. Concern was list vs category. December 2009.

Keep

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lists_of_institutions_of_higher_education_by_endowment

The result was keep. August 2007

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_unaccredited_institutions_of_higher_learning_(second_nomination)

The result was keep. June 2007

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_unaccredited_institutions_of_higher_learning

The result of the debate was consensus to keep. November 2005.

No Consensus

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_education_articles_by_country

The result was no consensus. A fair contingent of editors seem to believe that a list is a viable option here, and as such deletion does not seem the optimal outcome: lists and categories can co-exist, and particularly if improved this one may provide additional useful information. I would strongly advise that some thought is put into how this list can be made into more than a duplicate of a category - most of the keep arguments are rather theoretical in nature, and if this is to be kept in the long term the theoretical arguments need to be turned into actual improvements. Ultimately, this debate has been dragging on for a long, long time and it has to end somewhere: there is no sign of a consensus forming either way. November 2009

Lists are encyclopedia articles, which have to abide by our policies and guidelines while categories are just collections of information that we use to organize material, the bar for the ways categories tie information together is much lower than it is for lists, as categories don't have to abide by policies like WP:N or WP:IINFO.

WP:CLS states, "Accordingly, these methods should not be considered in conflict with each other. Rather, they are synergistic, each one complementing the others. For example, since editors differ in style, some favor building lists while others favor building categories ... Many users prefer to browse Wikipedia through its lists, while others prefer to navigate by category; and lists are more obvious to beginners, who may not discover the category system right away. Therefore, the "category camp" should not delete or dismantle Wikipedia's lists..."

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• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_colleges_and_universities_named_after_people

The result was No consensus - there doesn't really appear to be consensus here, so the article is kept But Please take action to cleanup and improve the list. September 2007

Delete

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_LSAT_Instruction_Providers

The result was delete. June 2009.

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Open_Education_Institution

The result was delete. Linkfarm. April 2009.

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The result was delete. February 2009

Hi. I merged Gas diffusion in soil into Soil gas. You appear on whatlinkshere, so I'm letting you know so you can update anything project related. Didactylos (talk) 17:22, 28 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi Peleoorthid, I notice that you promoted the article, Cryoturbation to "high importance based on score >600". I don't know what that means. It seems that this is a fairly narrow topic to which i would have ascribed low importance. Perhaps you can elaborate. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 22:47, 11 January 2016 (UTC).Reply[reply]

-- Hey Hops, thanks for the interest. It prompted me to reconsider. I am now thinking this is a mid-importance class article within our soil project. As to the score, obviously not helpful to the reviewer, sorry, won't be doing that again. The calculation and purpose of the scoring is explained here: Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Article_selection#Importance_score and came from the data available at [Assessment Data - Article List]. I used the score as another way to validate the relative importance of the subject, but the primary consideration in the assessment is importance specific to WikiProject Soil. WikiProjects get importance assessment guidance from Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Release_Version_Criteria#Importance_of_topic and ((Importance scheme)). What do you think, makes sense? -- Paleorthid (talk) 01:23, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your involvement and for being part of a team effort in thinking about this topic area! User:HopsonRoad 04:28, 12 January 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It is not a narrow topic. It is very important to engineering geologists and engineers in the designing of safe and stable infrastructure anywhere in the world that it gets cold enough for the ground to freeze. In many parts of the world, if cryoturbation is ignored in design, roads will break up and bridges will collapse. In building safe and permanent infrastructure, it can be a life or death factor if ignored. Paul H. (talk) 19:19, 3 February 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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No real refrences, pretty trivial. WP:Listcruft.

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Hi, it seems, you left the message about BAITSSS article. I significantly worked on it to improve the quality scale. Not sure, what are your concerns. Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IDKANS (talk • contribs) 02:20, 19 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Makes sense. The article content is in pretty good shape. -- 17:39, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

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Why have you made changes to this page? I am a publisher in the news business and what you have done is quite serious by removing my correction on this page.

Who are you, and what is your affiliation and or authority to make these deletions. I will certainly change it back until you demonstrate your acumen and or your reasons for deleting my edit.

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