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Hi, Ssilvers, I am Ron Kert from Tampa, FL (wikipedia user-name "ronkert"). Thank You for your additions to the "Piano bar" article that I submitted. I also am an amateur singer, and a "piano bar junkie". Although I enjoyed "La Boheme" and love most types of music, I sing songs from these genres: "Standards" from the 1920's to 1950's, 50's and 60's Rock'n'Roll, some 70's and 80's light Rock and Rock ballads, Blues, a couple of show tunes, a few Country tunes. I'm currently on one of my bi-annual out-of-state "piano bar" vacations in the DC / northern Virginia area. -- User:Ronkert

Saw your additions and copy edits to Golden Legend. Thanks. I had considered adding specific information about the Hyperion release (it is the first full length recording), but wasn't sure it was appropriate. I'll probably be doing some similar work on other compositions by Sullivan. Shsilver 19:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your attention to Hot Mikado - it helps to have another perspective, particularly one from the musicals / G&S point of view, and not the "HEY MY HIGH SCHOOL DID THAT!" point of view.... Thanks again. QBKooky 18:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the Song list in The Mountebanks! Added in character names whilst I was at it. Also, I've done a tweak to Template:Gilbert and Sullivan - That look good to you? Vanished user 23:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Malcolm Sargent turned out very well. I didn't know about that 1936 interview. Did you ever hear the old joke about Sargent? Supposedly he gets into a cab. The driver says, "Where to?" Sargent says, "It doesn't matter; they want me everywhere." Marc Shepherd 13:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for being helpful. My English music books used Mazeppa, Maria, Andrei, Kochubey (Kochubey is not a Russian, but Tatar name). (meladina 16:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC))Reply[reply]

Thanks for slicing up some of my more grotesquely long sentences in Opera the other day. I'm on a bit of drive to get the article up to GA standard, so thanks for all the help. Cheers, Moreschi 16:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kashchey the Immortal (opera) - Thanks for the help; I've just finished off the copy-editing. Cheers, Moreschi 19:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the messages re: Early British Musicals. I had only the briefest look after your first, but it all looked like great stuff.... --GuillaumeTell 07:17, 15 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Savoy opera (and curtain raisers): Nice work! [Shoemaker's Holiday] 10:25, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the kind words.... I'm very tempted to help out at Opera. In fact my next plan was to rework the French Opera section, which has been chopped off that article. Cheers. --Folantin 08:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you very much for all the info you added to The Magic Show! - Brian Kendig 13:42, 9 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Boyd Neel - Thank you for your kind words (and the corroborative detail).... Tim riley 21:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Camelot (musical) thanks you! Wow, Ssilvers, you are awesome! Thanks so much for such a quick fix on the Camelot article! I will add to it as I can. :) Thanks! Estreya 18:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Tom Eyen - Thank you for cleaning up my mess! I'm speechless - it's so well done! --Eric Eyen 02:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks so much for your kind note and for your careful reviews and help at Encyclopædia Britannica; I think it's an article we all can be proud of.... I'm grateful that you corrected that comma error that had been peppering my writing for ages. Looking forward to working with you again in Wikipedia, Willow 10:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the nice welcoming note! I was going to see an amateur production of Princess Ida at MIT last night, so I wanted to learn a little about it. The article was very helpful! I love G&S, but I probably will just do little typo edits here and there as I find them. Thanks again! Purkowitz 14:04, 11 May 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your effort and added info with Malfitano. She is a great singer and it was sad to notice that the existing writings about her were too brief. It would be great if we could get some photos of her. I will write to her agent, hopefully they could provide us with photos to be published (with written permission, of course). - Jay 02:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nice work on the Buddy - The Buddy Holly Story yesterday/today. Concerning the expanded synopisis version that was severely edited a while back - IT WAS MUCH BETTER. Sorry it kept getting cut. It should simply have been re-written to avoid verbatim website quotes. It should not of been deleted, though. I will support you in defending against any attempts to ruin this article again. Smatprt 14:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the help! :-)Nrswanson 07:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your work on Michael Mayer (director) - WOW. Thank you! I knew that once people realized this major theatrical figure had no article at all, it'd get fixed quickly, but the early version was so disorganized, and it's lovely to see what you've done with it overnight.

Diana Fortuna Photo - Thanks for cleaning up the summary :) DraxusD 05:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the help cleaning up my edits on Parade - I honestly thought I was alone on this one! Docta247 13:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the welcome :) I'm Chris Angelico, Savoynetter and fairly active but with no particular qualifications or special skills in G&S. A newbie in editing, which is probably obvious to all, unfortunately. -- Rosuav (talk • contribs) 05:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good work. Several of these performers are familiar to me because of the film Topsy Turvy, wihch I've seen at least half a dozen times. They needed to be included in Wikipedia. Charivari 02:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Congratulations! You took this a lot farther than I ever imagined it would go. Marc Shepherd 19:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks very much - I'm actually planning on writing up a few articles about some of the lesser Savoyards, as well as a couple of early G&S creators that really ought to be here (Frank Thornton, Fred Sullivan, and Selina Dolaro spring to mind). --AlbertHerring 17:21, 23 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Congrats on getting W. S. Gilbert featured. Your hard work was impressive. Best, Moreschi 12:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ditto --Bofuses (talk) 15:09, 6 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Awarded to Ssilvers for his work on actors and actresses, minor operas, and everything else related to Gilbert and Sullivan and Victorian Theatre. You have single-handedly filled in many huge gaps in Wikipedia coverage. Vanished user 13:13, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

... and that goes from me too, his recent work on filling in the gaps and eliminating stubs in London theatre is only matched by his patience with my lack of knowledge and his ability to collaborate. Kbthompson 18:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gallery of Illustration - Many thanks for your modest but spot-on improvements to the initial entry on the Royal Gallery of Illustration!! Rapotter 03:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Globe, Royalty and St James's Theatres - Gracious me! How much you have improved the presentation. As suggested, I have run up a piece on the Globe, which would benefit from the Ssilvers treatment, had you but world enough and time. Tim riley 10:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Congratulations on your work on this article. The images make a big difference as well as noting the stars and the plays. David Lauder 08:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Many thanks for making the Haymarket Theatre piece look good. ...Tim Riley 10:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I didn't thank you for the addn info on the Empire Theatre. I added a testimonial to your barnstar! But I don't know how these things get decided on, so left it as barnstar + bar. The London theatres have been a joy... Kbthompson 18:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

St Georges Theatre - Belated thanks for that, it almost looks like an article now. I took the liberty of adding a gee-gaw to your front page (a case of I saw this and thought of you, I have to wait another month!). I saw the recent comments at G&S, tough crowd. I think that's a bit harsh for GA, but something that definitely needs fixing for FA. Kbthompson 15:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Court Theatre - Congratulations on your reworking of the Royal Court Theatre. David Lauder 08:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Her Majesty's Theatre: Congrats ... to you both. It was a collaborative effort and without sane people around, I was beginning to chew my leg off... as it was, I got off with a limp. Cheers Kbthompson (talk) 09:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you once more for giving my text a wash and brush up. I feel rather guilty: I have all the fun and you do all the work. Tim riley 22:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nice rewrite! I was hoping that someone would: Previously it seemed to be saying that Sullivan went to Leipzig twice which looked dubious :-D  uriel8  (talk) 14:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Spot on, I'd say.... This was quite a serious gap in the coverage of Sullivan - now, happily, filled. Tim Riley 08:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You asked me to take a look at the work that had been done on this, while I was away. I did look when I came back and thought it excellent - then forgot to let you know! (I probably remember more when I make negative comments). Kbthompson 09:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Great article. I added two photos (with fair use rationales, so there will be no problem)...egde 10:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You have done a lovely job on the article. Jack1956 18:27, 12 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for this. -- Kleinzach 23:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Read over, looks good! Much applause! You deserve a cookie - here's one!

Heck, take two! --omtay38 19:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

'nuff said! --omtay38 00:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yet again a fantastic contribution. Many thanks. Regarding David Russell Hulme, I have a photo somewhere that I took when I sang with him in the 1970s. If I can find it I'll scan it and upload it to the article. Jack1956 21:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I love this... I write 4 sentences on an article Terence Rees‎ and go to bed and as if by magic the next day it's finished! And it's another brilliant article, much better than I could have created. Many thanks. I'll have a look at those articles you mentioned! Jack1956 17:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for that. You have done another great job by polishing up the Scott Fishe article to such a good standard. I wish I had your expertise. Jack1956 23:19, 15 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your Imperial Majesty, even if these regalia are just stage props, it's nice to be able to hand them to you. May you wear them well. Durova^Charge! 05:18, 28 November 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for great job on Oudin.... Jack1956 (talk) 18:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the help on Francoeur. Melbrooksfan101 talk 04:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well done on pursuing this. I have just finished reading the Elliott book which answers all the questions and I aspire to finding some time to work on all the articles but ... Cutler (talk) 09:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I found a photo of Nancy McIntosh and uploaded it. The others weren't really of the show. I will search further and upload as appropriate Thanks. Broadwaygal (talk) 18:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I just started an article on the Boer War Te Deum this morning. It's a rough stub, and I am currently looking for more references. If you have time, could you take a look? Thanks Broadwaygal (talk) 18:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your input! Typos will be the death of me, just so you know. I absolutely hate the one image available of Marshall, and I'm positive that he'd hate it too; it's the monkey suit. I contacted the Adirondack Museum to see if they can release an image or two under GFDL for me to use. I would love to get a similar pic to what I've seen in my book sources, with him grinning goofily while posing on mountaintops with grimy, exhausted looking guides. So we'll see. :) María (habla conmigo) 20:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can't fault it- another brilliant piece of research and well-written. Jack1956 (talk) 21:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dear Ss, I am very pleased to know about Sig. Brocolini, of whom I have never previously heard, but I think I have read somewhere that he was especially admired in a trio from La finta giardiniera with Mme Spinaci and the basso cantante Bruschetta, under the baton of the great Vermicelli. Keep up the good work, Eebahgum (talk) 00:42, 21 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Welcome back and hello again. Nice job of discovery, and very thorough. And yes, he's a credit to my name, maybe. (Perhaps I need to change mine too. . .) JohnClarknew (talk) 23:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The star is totally deserved. I have a programme for the 1975 performance of 'Utopia' somewhere, and will check it out, but presume that, as he is on the recording he must have been in the performance. GD I am less sure about. Jack1956 (talk) 14:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks again for your help. I think the article looks great now! - certainly better than any other musicals in 2008.... Anyway, thanks again. -- Dave S Light Defender (talk) 15:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If I could figure out how to give you a Barnstar (or a bouquet of flowers) I would. Thanks for the help on Bernadette Peters, she's looking good. I'll look at the article again next week, with fresh eyes, to see what other bits and pieces it might need. JeanColumbia (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the splendid overhaul.... -- Drhoehl (talk) 02:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You've got more stamina than I! Article looks great, I made a few very minor edits, and added external links to articles on a few of his lesser known works.JeanColumbia (talk) 17:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for editing my Hello, Dolly! Act One synopsis. It's so much more concise and well-written now! MarianKroy (talk) 20:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey! Just wanted to say thanks for all the great work! Love all the new stuff you added. Talk to you soon - User:Mblaxill 20:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Gilbert_and_Sullivan/Marc_Shepherd's_Gilbert_and_Sullivan_Discography.

I wonder if it would ever be worth doing an article on G&S scholarship? You know, cover the major discoveries, describe the evolution of the field... or is that too likely to hit problems? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Aha! I have suggested this before. I think it would be great. It is a difficult job and requires library access. For journals, you may even have to write to the various different G&S societies to get back issues or whatever. I'll help if I can, but I can't go to the library on it. I think that some of the journals have online indexes to their old articles. Maybe Stephen Turnbull and Andrew Crowther can help you. Mitch Gillett might be able to help with GASBAG, and Angie Arnall might be able to help with The Gilbert and Sullivan News. Even more important, is the old Gilbert and Sullivan Journal, which is no longer published. Books are easier, and Ainger's list of references is a good place to start. Also, see this. Crowther's site lists various useful resources. Good luck! -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It gives me great joy to award this Imperial Napoleonic triple crown for exceptional mainspace contributions on Gilbert and Sullivan and otherwise. Thank you very much for your generous time and diligence on behalf of the project. You are the model of a modern major Napoleon among editors. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Ssilvers, the article will appear on DYK tomorrow [Tuesday]. This is entirely due to your contribution. Jack1956 (talk) 22:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Summer's almost over so back to work-or whatever it is that we all do! Welcome back, I've missed the conversations (so to speak....)JeanColumbia (talk) 19:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gosh! A splendid article. I had no idea the Royal Aquarium ever existed. Tim riley (talk) 16:04, 11 September 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lovely job, as usual. Many thanks. Jack1956 (talk) 07:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

And another fantastic job on Foggerty's Fairy. Absolutely brilliant! Jack1956 (talk) 07:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good stuff there. The Land Surveyor (talk) 18:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The WikiProject Musical Theatre Barnstar
		For your kind efforts to reach a common ground on musical article content, I award you my Musical Theatre Barnstar. Enjoy! Mizu onna sango15Hello! 20:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the Barnstar...it is much appreciated. I had a look at Dick Whittingon (and his cat!) but you had done your usual excellent and comprehensive job so that there was little I could find to add. I wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year. Jack1956 (talk) 08:00, 19 December 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thomprod (talk) has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie. Happy munching!

Gosh! I'd never heard of her - and what a lot you've unearthed.... Tim riley (talk) 09:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That really is very interesting and genuinely helpful. Many thanksOrdyg (talk) 20:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep up the good work; I'm particularly fond of musical theatre too and see you’ve contributed greatly to various articles on the subject! -- Vegan4Life (talk) 11:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for helping out. I know that he did a lot of G & S towards the end of his career... -- kosboot (talk) 03:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wow! What an article! What could I possibly add? Instead, I've started a new one as an off-shoot of yours, Richard Corney Grain. Jack1956 (talk) 16:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lovely job on Richard Corney Grain. Many thanks for your excellent input. Jack1956 (talk) 18:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Some top notch stuff there - thank you so much! I've piled Pelion on Ossa by rummaging in the archives of The Observer Tim riley (talk) 12:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The 50 DYK Medal
		Thank you for your invaluable contributions to the encyclopedia by creating so much great new content. Let this small token remind you that all of your hard work is appreciated by both readers and your fellow editors. Dravecky (talk) 06:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the compliment - it was you who challenged me to create an article on her (I didn't think there would be that much). I look at your work for inspiration on format, organization, etc. Thanks! -- kosboot (talk) 12:13, 12 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is there a reason you've never run for admin? I realize the process is appalling, but you seem eminently qualified and the pain only lasts a week.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks, but I prefer to spend all of my Wiki time contributing and refining content. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk)

This is a very good article. The only suggestion is to move the Analysis section after the synopsis. This isn't a play most readers will be familiar with, and the analysis is difficult to follow unless you already know what happens in the story. Marc Shepherd (talk) 14:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The article is so much improved after your changes. Tim riley (talk) 20:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm very impressed with the additional info - real improvement, so thanks. Incidentally, a small note - I hope you don't mind, but I corrected back a couple of references to the daughter's name - it's definitely "Paulise" with a S. See "The Art of Dress" by Jane Ashelford and National Trust publications regarding the Paulise de Bush costume collection at Killerton House. (probably easier to get hold of than journals for the Costume Society!) Best regards, Mabalu (talk) 09:29, 16 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Article has passed GA review. I need hardly say – but nonetheless do – how grateful I am for the Ssilvers magic touch passim. Tim riley (talk) 17:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That's so much better - bless you! Shall look out the additional info you suggest. Have sent a separate communication about a possible NC photograph. Tim riley (talk) 17:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, Thank you for showing me that the poster is for another use. Is it possible to get that first press photo of Coward, in dressing gown, on a bed, smoking a cigarette? <snip> Thank you for your patience with me on the image issues as well. Jappalang (talk) 06:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Congratulations on a successful nomination and on your efforts to get the article's excellent qualities recognised by the powers that be. Jack1956 (talk) 07:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I second that. I was pleased to work on the article at PR, and am delighted to see its deserved promotion. Brianboulton (talk) 09:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So awfully fine ... Kbthompson (talk) 13:02, 25 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Happy to see the desired conclusion. Wonderful article. Finetooth (talk) 14:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Congratulations! Tony (talk) 14:34, 25 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Original Barnstar
		This is awarded in recognition of your excellent work on Noël Coward. Congratulations on achieving Featured Article status! LiteraryMaven (talk • contrib) 14:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Congrats from me, as well! You both did a terrific job. It's always a pleasure working with you, so don't hesitate to let me in on your next project. :) María (habla conmigo) 16:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for showing all of us how good FAs can be. Please return to FAC. Regards, Dabomb87 (talk) 21:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Excellent additions and edits. May your shadow never grow less. Tim riley (talk) 19:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've rummaged in the archives and put a lot of stuff in the article, which consequently looks a bit slablike, and would benefit from the Ssilvers touch if you have a few minutes. Tim riley (talk) 10:40, 4 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That's a lovely new article on Fanny Ronalds. And informative: I'd always assumed (wrongly, it seems) she was in some sense a professional singer because of her association with "The Lost Chord." -- Arxiloxos (talk) 18:48, 23 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For the record, this would replace the second image in Arthur Sullivan, File:Young_Arthur_Sullivan.jpg. As I said, I know I need to work on Pinafore, but this is at least somewhat productive, and I felt up to it, so, better it than nothing. - Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 23:00, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hearty thanks as always for your sprucing up of the article. I have also been tinkering with the article on Neville Cardus which if you have a moment, pray peruse. Tim riley (talk) 19:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I didn't get a chance to thank you for your outstanding peer review of OWH, so please accept this as a tardy (but still heartfelt!) note of appreciation:

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For Ssilvers, who went above and beyond the typical reviewing standards to help Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. achieve FA-status before his bicentennial. Your thorough dissection and willingness to leave no stone unturned is much appreciated. As the Autocrat himself would say, "People who honestly mean to be true contradict themselves much more rarely than those who try to be 'consistent'." With many thanks, María (habla conmigo) 21:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'll happily second this as well. My experience with the Holmes article has revived my faith in the collaborative spirit of this project (which, by the way, was sorely needed). People, like you, who are willing to join the "team mentality" make it all worthwhile. --Midnightdreary (talk) 22:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What a fantastic picture! Jack1956 (talk) 14:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Great timing! I've been feeling abandoned, alone, taken for granted, deserted, and undesserted. LilHelpa (talk) 20:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Louis Cohen (conductor) thanks you for buffing up his article. Tim riley (talk) 15:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC) (per pro)Reply[reply]

Hey, thank you. I'm glad there's someone on Wikipedia encouraging other people. I do not think I want to write articles though, maybe just be an editor. Thanks again! Tweedle20 (talk) 16:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Tweedle20Reply[reply]

• Thaanks =) from me as well . –xeno^talk 18:12, 8 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for the visit and helpful comments.... By the way, I've just listened to 3 savoy operas so far and am a bit surprised at knowing of the enthusiastic and well organized WP:G&S project. It looks interesting to me. You're a coordinator of the project? If so, keep up the good work. Best regards.--Caspian blue 01:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Congratulations on promotion of this article to FA! Well deserved. Xandar 17:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Indeed, well done. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:10, 28 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Agreed! Is it two down, 12 to go now? --Wehwalt (talk) 23:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Actually 3 down, 11 to go Thespis (opera), Trial by Jury and Pinafore. But I have a new strategy: I'm planning to bring a bunch of them to GA before doing another FA. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey, congrats to you, as well! I'm also giving FA a long break with the hope of creating and expanding sorely overlooked nature-related articles. Variety is good. See you around GAC. :) María (habla conmigo) 19:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Likewise, congratulations on all that work. You dropped in to my talk page and invited me to participate in the FAC since I had done the GAN. Thanks, and I did keep an eye on progress, but it seemed to have enough contributors that I just let it be. Regards. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You really do deserve them all. Well done! Stikko (talk) 22:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See User:DGG/NYPL -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:40, 14 July 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Original Barnstar
		For an impressive and tireless and extensive 6-day period of major research and writing on Stephen Moorer, way over and above the call of duty. Well done! Softlavender (talk) 07:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I had set the stage to create the article for Earl Wrightson in the wake of the Lois Hunt article I had just created after her recent death. I click on the link and lo and behold you've already created the article. Keep up the great work! Alansohn (talk) 18:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

On Pinafore, scheduled for the main page August 11. --Wehwalt (talk) 00:28, 2 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Congratulations on H.M.S. Pinafore making Featured Article for the Day. It's really nice to see more classical music articles being recognized and gettting such exposure. Jonyungk (talk) 12:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Was just stopping by to say the same thing! Congrats! — MusicMaker5376 15:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It is above and beyond the call of duty that you should amend the punctuation etc of such an obscure English article. Wikipedia would be the poorer without your eagle eye. Tim riley (talk) 20:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Another fantastic job on a G&S related article. I go to bed and as if by magic in the morning this amazing article has sprung up out of all your hard work. Can you think of a DYK? Jack1956 (talk) 09:49, 26 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Gilbert and Sullivan Barnstar
		For your significant contribution in expanding The Ne'er-do-Weel I award you this barnstar. Jack1956 (talk) 21:30, 29 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Grazie (that's what is taking my time--studying for my trip); I thought EVERYONE knew what the Flea Market & Gypsy of the Year were! Anyway, I'll be totally gone in mid-October for 16 days, will let you know when I waddle back (pasta! gelato!).JeanColumbia (talk) 21:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the kind words and further improvements.<snip>. Drhoehl (talk) 23:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You're both very welcome. I enjoy a good read, especially when it keeps me from worrying about my master's thesis. :) María (habla conmigo) 13:43, 3 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Gilbert and Sullivan Barnstar
		For your amazing contribution in expanding The Fortune Hunter I award you this G&S barnstar. Jack1956 (talk) 18:44, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks Ss, that and your kind words are much appreciated. It is always a pleasure to work with you. Jack1956 (talk) 18:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Great job on Walter H. Fisher. I suspected he was married to Venne thinking it unlikely there were two Fishers and that she'd married the one in D'Oyly Carte but was trying to find something to substantiate it. Nice work. Jack1956 (talk) 07:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I agree with you totally, Ssilvers. Always a pleasure to work with you and Tim on these. What amazes me is when I've given up having exhausted all the avenues open to me you find loads more interesting facts! And great to think we are giving them the belated recognition (and dare I say immortality) that they deserve. Maybe I'm just sentimental, but I look at Walter Fisher and Lottie Venne who we have reunited here on Wiki having made the connection between them! Jack1956 (talk) 20:36, 21 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

On November 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Black Mikado, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 19:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Congratulations on your 100th DYK! Jack1956 (talk) 20:49, 26 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The 100 DYK Medal
		It is my pleasure to award you, Ssilvers, this medal, and I hope this is not the last one you'll receive from the project. Materialscientist (talk) 01:57, 27 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you could spare a few minutes (which you will not, I fear, find very interesting) a swift once-over of this article would be esteemed a favour. - Tim riley (talk) 18:16, 9 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your comment at my talk page is, naturally, much appreciated. Just to show that no good deed goes unpunished, could you find a few minutes to look at Elizabeth Harwood, which I have just been beefing up? - Tim riley (talk) 20:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Happy New Year Awadewit (talk) 05:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have been doing a spot of work on Colin Davis. Grateful if you would have a look at it. - Tim riley (talk) 17:33, 10 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have yet another article on an English musician that I'd be grateful if you'd run your unblinking editorial eye over, viz. John Barbirolli. - Tim riley (talk) 14:56, 11 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For your taking the extra trouble to expertly edit Themes in Avatar towards improvement. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 05:47, 16 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey, thanks for your comments re: "The Open Boat"! I greatly appreciate the feedback, and agree with all of your points on the talk page. I'll try to get to Rupert today or tomorrow. Take care, María (habla conmigo) 14:26, 22 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks much. I appreciate the notice. LilHelpa (talk) 21:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for making this a much better article! 4meter4 (talk) 19:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Roosevelt Island rag on the separation of the organizations.

• http://www.nyc10044.com/wire/3007/wire3007.pdf (start with page 3)
• http://www.nyc10044.com/wire/3009/wire3009.pdf (start with page 2)
• OIA executive director: Starlenejohnson (talk)

Hi SSilvers. I have left a note of gratitude on Talk:Themes in Avatar for your tremendous input there. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 00:42, 20 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Many thanks for the rationale and for ce of images and captions. The felling of the hometree is a very good image. Would it be too much to ask of you to help expand the lead as per discussion with DrNegative on Peer review page? You seem to have a very clear idea on how to do it. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 16:37, 25 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I was suprised to find our that Daniel Breaker did not have an article despite being nominated for a Tony and having been in several Bordway shows. I have since created an article for him, but it is very empty. I was hoping you will help me fill it up.--JDDJS (talk) 01:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yet again, I do all I can in an evening and the next morning wake up to a brilliant article. Excellent job! I'll have a look at it today Ss and think of a joint DYK. All the best. Jack1956 (talk) 06:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Good Article Barnstar
		As a token of deep gratitude for your state-of-the-art editing of Themes in Avatar that helped it rise to GA status, I present you with this barnstar. Thanks and regards, Cinosaur (talk) 17:49, 18 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For Ssilvers, whose diligence in advising, supporting, and even (if you please) correcting me, has helped me in more articles than I can name – and today I am in his debt for helping me get Adrian Boult to FA. – Tim riley (talk) 22:12, 20 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Awww, shucks, guys. Thanks for all the bling! -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:36, 21 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've found a book that is a collection of theatre reviews for Broadway shows. It's called 'Opening Night on Broadway: A Critical Quotebook of the Golden Era of the Musical Theatre...." Since a lot of the critical reception sections are pretty bare, I thought I might add quotations of the reviews from the book. Does such a book constitute a reliable source? I know it can be difficult to track down newspaper reviews in their original form, and it seems to me that indirect quotes are better than no quotes at all. However, I'd like your opinion since you're a more experienced editor than I. MarianKroy (talk) 02:49, 1 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, this book is most certainly a WP:RS. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:35, 1 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey. I was wondering if you can help me add Categories and fix the refernces and the over all make up of the Loretta Ables Sayre article I created.--JDDJS (talk) 00:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Guidance Barnstar
		This is for helping me fix the pages I create. JDDJS (talk) 15:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Greetings, Ssilvers. You are off to such a great start on the article Straight Up (book).... -- Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 07:28, 3 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello! Could you take a look at Oklahoma! for me? I've added a critical reception section and done some other miscellaneous edits, and I think it could be moved from C-class to B-class. I'd like to know what you think about it. MarianKroy (talk) 23:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Greatly obliged for your copy editing of this very long article, on a subject not conspicuously part of the Ssilvers curriculum. I am grateful for your colleaguely help on this. - Tim riley (talk) 17:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Do you have any interest in being an administrator? I will nominate you because I think you will be a great one. JDDJS (talk) 21:27, 6 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the offer. That's very kind of you, but I do not want to be an administrator. I am interested in content, and so I am happy to let other responsible editors deal with administration. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:41, 6 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delayed, as usual, but I've finally reviewed (and passed) the article. Great work, as usual, the lot of you. María (habla conmigo) 16:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Ssilvers, ... Loving your work on the article. ... This could easily be a potential GA in the future. All the best Mark E (talk) 21:13, 13 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You're right, I need sources. I've had limited library access the past few months, but I did check out some more scholarly musical theatre books, notably Mark N. Grant's The Rise and Fall of the Broadway Musical and Ethan Mordden's examinations of each decade of American musical theatre. Both authors concluded that yes, there was a lot of fluffy stuff on Broadway for the first few decades, but there were signs of development in various directions:

On Your Toes (1936) at least placed ballet alongside musical theatre, featuring two lengthy ballets. Kurt Weill's pre-Oklahoma American work included One Touch of Venus, which again utilized a couple ballets that actually illustrated Venus's character and inner conflict (the "Venus in Ozone Heights" ballet). Weill and Moss Hart collaborated on Lady in the Dark, which used psychoanalysis as a means of delving into the mind of successful but indecisive and romantically uncertain Liza Elliot; almost all the music in the show occurs in three extensive dreams that reveal Liza's fears and past experiences. The man for her turns out to be the one who can complete the leitmotif she cannot finish herself (the song is "My Ship", the only song that occurs in "real life"). "Peggy Ann" (1926) was an even earlier use of dreams as a revelation of character, though musical comedy conventions were still included. "Of Thee I Sing" (1931) had a satirical plot tied to an equally biting, yet humorous, score by the Gershwins. Though the characters may be considered caricatures, the score is integrated in a manner not unlike Gilbert and Sullivan. Pal Joey portrayed hard, immoral central characters without sentiment; the non-nightclub numbers do function within the plot.

The authors basically concluded that though Show Boat and Oklahoma! are significant milestones in musical theatre, they didn't spring out of nowhere.... MarianKroy (talk) 04:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello! I really appreciate your diligence in monitoring the Gilbert and Sullivan information for WP. I wonder if you would reconsider removing the external link connecting Yale's collection to the page. The Sidney Rose Collection of Gilbert and Sullivan contains not only materials such as scores and libretti (which are indeed widely available), but also an unusually extensive collection of ephemera, most of it focusing on performances of G & S in the United States. These performances are documented by posters, programs, production photographs, reviews, and a wide variety of other items. Many of these items—especially those having to do with the more obscure performances—may be difficult or impossible to find elsewhere. -- Best Wishes from Tjr36 (talk) 17:38, 15 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi. We don't have links to any of the great G&S collections in the world: the British Library, the Theatre Museum, the Royal Academy of Music, the DOC archives and the Morgan Library, so it would not make sense to link to Yale or other collections. There are too many of them, and Wikipedia is not a collection of links. I would love to see an article about G&S research that describes the major research collections, though! -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you so much for taking your time to assess the Kerry Ellis article. I truly appreciate the notes you've given me, it'll definitely help! I can't thank you enough. A LOT NEEDS DOING!!!!!! :) -- Stephenjamesx (talk) 21:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Need help with John Faithfull Fleet and Namadhari naik ... may i request you to help me counting on you as a friend? -- Tej smiles (talk) 19:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It is noble of you – above and beyond the call of duty – to plough through my prose on an English composer of (I suspect) no interest to you whatever. I didn't have the cheek to ask you to proof-read this one, and I am most grateful for you for undertaking it unbidden. Bless you! – Tim riley (talk) 17:07, 2 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What kind of expansion of the synopsis of ’u’ do you want to see? The entire plot in detail? ... I still must have an A4 handout of the scenes which I got at the performance. If I can still find it I could enhance the section. SpeakFree (talk) 17:04, 4 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Saw you did some work way back on Flower Drum Song. Am reading a book about the play and it seems an article worth improving.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:55, 16 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What language is Baron Golosh in, if you know? I've been cleaning up Category:Operettas by giving all the entries subcategories of their own, by language. Baron Galosh is the only one left, because I can't tell what language it's in. Softlavender (talk) 07:47, 17 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

English. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The study of controversial content that you found looks very useful and I have assigned it to the Lehigh students in that sections of the course page. But I don't seem to have got the formmating right; could you explain? Also, while I have "watch this page" checked for both the course and discussion pages, I do not seem to actually get notices of changes. Any idea why? Thanks.--Ck07 (talk) 22:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		Wikipedia Ambassador Barnstar
		For outstanding efforts helping a student, which will soon have led to the first successful DYK from a student working with the ambassadors program, I award Ssilvers the Wikipedia Ambassador Barnstar.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 20:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Awesome 'first' there, congratulations!--Pharos (talk) 20:40, 8 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the help with my footnote! IR393.sae211 (talk) 20:18, 15 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mentees - Autumn 2010

Deme - IR393DEME (talk • contribs)

Hello, I am IR393DEME from Lehigh University and I hope you will be my mentor this semester! I will be working on Indonesian occupation of East Timor . IR393DEME (talk • contribs) 18:18, 25 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

sae211 - IR393.sae211 (talk • contribs)

Hi, I'm IR393.sae211 and I'm also participating in a Wikipedia project for the Seminar in Intervention. Would you be my mentor this semester? I am studying the Sierra Leone Civil War. Thanks. -- IR393.sae211 (talk • contribs) 01:29, 27 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gsrogers (talk • contribs)

Hello! I'm a student in the Wikipedia Public Policy class at Syracuse University. I saw that you have expertise in law, and I am planning on contributing to the Fair Sentencing Act article, which is currently a stub on Wikipedia. I should have begun to add content by 11:00 PM tonight (EST). Hopefully you can give me some feedback as I'm new to this and can use all the help I can get! Thanks! Gsrogers (talk • contribs) 17:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

FruitForAll (talk • contribs)

Hi Ssilvers, Would you be willing to be my mentor? I'm working on the public policy initiative with Indiana University. Thank you. -- FruitForAll (talk • contribs) 00:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)FruitForAllReply[reply]

Klcai (talk • contribs)

UC Berkeley's Politics of Piracy class ... the Secure Federal File Sharing Act, 02:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the additional cleanup, particularly the irrelevant musicals. I also vote to remove the ending Bernstein bit about musicals vs. operettas. As much as I love the guy, this opinion/paragraph is not only completely silly and idiosyncractic, but it also muddies the waters of an already muddy article. Besides, there's no easy way to check and see if that's really what he said (somehow I doubt it's entirely accurate). Not to mention, Bernstein is not a critical authority on the subject, and he was probably just babbling off the cuff. I vote you or I remove it. OK? Softlavender (talk) 03:39, 30 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've just added to the article on Clifford Odets the assertion that his play "Till the Day I Die" was banned on account of its anti-Nazi message. I have just found that it was banned in Australia and now unsure whether it was just Oz or US as well. Would it be any trouble to check your sources? Here's the second link http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17298671 (Disturbing how highly regarded they were before Poland.) --Doug butler (talk) 09:09, 30 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		Prince of Proofreaders Barnstar
		For constantly rescuing me and my prose, reading articles that must have bored you to sobs, and helping me get them up to GA/FA I gratefully present you with this special barnstar. – Tim riley (talk) 22:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

.... means "keep up the good work". I admit that it is one of the lesser-used and perhaps passe' acronyms.... Ling.Nut (talk) 00:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I just saw your "WikiPen" on Gsrogers' talk page. Great idea! Your contribution to the Public Policy Initiative is making a difference. --Fschulenburg (Public Policy) (talk) 04:19, 4 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Very very sad news, but thank you very much for thinking of letting people know and for making that section on his talk page. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 11:45, 13 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! If you don't celebrate Christmas ... Happy (belated) Hanukkah! Happy Eid al-Adha! Happy Kwanzaa! And of course, Happy Festivus! May this holiday season bring you the music of laughter, the warmth of friendship, and the steadying hand of love. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 05:07, 19 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for your input/help so far! It's been instrumental and I have really enjoyed seeing the page improve over the past couple of days. --IR393.sae211 (talk) 05:13, 22 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey, sorry I missed all the fun! Congrats on getting such a great article to FA-status, and to the mainpage. I read part of it on my iPhone while traveling yesterday, and then of course I had to watch clips from the show on YouTube! Hope you have a happy holiday. :) María (habla conmigo) 13:37, 20 December 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Ssilvers. It's a pleasure to have an excuse to contact you again. I have created the Mantra-Rock Dance article, and it seems to be poised for its DYK exposure due 11 January 12:00 AM (UTS). If the subject is at all of any interest to you, would you mind giving it a stern editorial look before that, at least for major blunders? I apologize for this very short notice, and am almost expecting you to turn the request down, but... PS: I am still working on a couple of last minor sections there, but they will be mostly quotes. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 22:13, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you very much, Ssilvers. Much obliged. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 23:07, 9 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I admire your work. Thank you for not accepting a nomination that you are not inclined to take. Keegan (talk) 19:55, 11 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, thank you for smartening up the article on Billie Carleton, it certainly looks a lot better. I've tried to add page numbers to references as asked, but sometimes I'm quoting from the DNB article and it doesn't cite a page reference, e.g. for the argument by Kohn that Carleton died due to taking depressants (but it does call the argument 'convincing', which I should perhaps have copied?) I've based my article on the DNB, but I also skim-read some contemporary reports in The Times. There was some arguing in court as to whether Carleton died due to 'veronal', whether she was suicidal etc: I haven't mentioned this. Also I'm not sure De Veulle was a transvestite. I'd imagine he was, it would fit in well with his interests but from what I recall from The Times he was just accused in court of having shown someone a book on the subject. I'll check this. Lastly there are some exterior sites which explore the case from its different aspects, looking at contemporary attitudes to drug taking, gender preference, racial anxieties etc - should I link to these? Sometimes the facts as cited on them are slightly at variance with the DNB, which I've preferred as a source.RLamb (talk) 12:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you, that was a very nice support. One thing--BB has raised a question at the FAC about musicals101.com Do you think you could explain why it is a high quality reliable source? I could attempt it but I suspect you'll do a better job, if I could prevail on you.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:06, 20 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you. That was very helpful.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:06, 20 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

the actors i added to carousel are in the productions i listed in the 'reasons for editing.... all you need to do is look on th cast recordings and you will see them. you have other actors from those productions on your list...not sure how you missed redi shelton and fisher stevens. i was not edit warring i was adding useful info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.195.77.144 (talk) 15:55, 10 May 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have listed The King and I at GAN. It is a little skimpy in a few places, like it could use a few reviews for later production. Any help would be appreciated.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:02, 13 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've been working on Allegro (musical) which is a bit difficult as I've never seen the piece (who has?) or listened to the score. Your comments would be very welcome. After this I think I am going to step back from this topic and benefit from the comments as these pass through at least part of the process, while uneasily eyeing South Pacific.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:08, 22 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your note. I added my input and another resource to the discussion. MarnetteD | Talk 01:02, 1 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you, Ssilvers, for your helpful contributions to The Mystery of a Hansom Cab. Much appreciated. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 15:09, 1 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the note. I voted for Victorian burlesque. The article looks fine. <snip> Best. --GuillaumeTell 11:33, 3 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ssilvers

Please accept this star as a token of thanks for your help in getting Frederick Delius to FA standard. This was truly the work of many hands, and your particular contribution was much valued. Brianboulton (talk) 21:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the updates and your kind offer. I really love musicals but I don't know how much I could contribute. When I have enough time I'll check the project out. Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 22:03, 15 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Have a look at Talk:Finale, if you haven't already. I was thinking of starting a Finale (stage works) article and contributing a section on opera (based on Grove). An operetta and a musical theatre section would be needed as well - it's not my province, but would you be interested? If not, any suggestions? --GuillaumeTell 16:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copied from here:

Note The dust seems to have settled while I was asleep, but I feel I should point out that I specifically warned Ronz [1] to stop edit warring and he simply removed the warning and seemed to be saying that I don't understand the situation and need not be concerned. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ronz it seems does not like such evidence left on his talk page. His modus operandi is to spread the discussion around or to insist on placing the conversation on an opposing editor's talk page so people investigating have a harder time piecing things together and to shift blame onto the editor he is in dispute with by making it appear he is reasonably conversing with them on their talk page while simultaneously baiting them and planting diffs that support his view and disparage his opponent. It is surprising how effective his tactics are in bamboozling admins. The sophistication of it when one realizes what is really going on is troubling. I suggest admins wise up to it to avoid mistakes like the one committed in this case. Lambanog (talk) 20:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please stop posting to my talk page. I do not want to receive any more messages from you for any reason. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:20, 28 February 2011 (UTC) -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:25, 4 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I saw your question on Cirt's talk page (which I'm temporarily watching as a result of my own comment there) about the ((Oz)) template. It looks like "collapsed" was misspelled in it. I corrected that and things seem okay now. If I messed anything up, feel free to undo my edit. TJRC (talk) 23:18, 9 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks, looks great! -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:36, 10 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi - As I'm a real newbie in Wikipedia, your kind offer is very much appreciated. Cheers Bluedelta25Bluedelta25 (talk) 11:54, 10 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've now closed the (very thorough) PR and nominated the article at FAC (Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Thomas Beecham/archive1). You have been marvellously generous with your time in copy-editing it over the weeks and years, but I don't think you are thereby ineligible to add any comments you may care to make at the FAC page. Tim riley (talk) 10:34, 6 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I appreciate your concerns into adressing the Midway Games summary issue. Even though, you and I may not share same definition of a summary, I appreciate your efforts trying to make the Midway summary page a bit shorter. Regards Farine (talk) 22:45, 7 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have heavily edited the paragraph on "Shaw musicals" - ... in case you are interested, or wish to make further changes. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 04:17, 21 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Collaboration of the Month. This time it's the Theatre article.

• Truelight234 had done some great work on the 19th century section of history of theatre, so I've been trying to clean that article up in preparation for summarising into the theatre article.

Ah! I came across that site only yesterday. ... Didn't think to investigate it further. Many thanks. • DP •  ^{huh?} 01:51, 22 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi can I just say a big thanks to you for your excellent work on improving the above article. In retrospect I can now see the mistakes the previous article had when comparing it to the newly laid out article ... and will not be so quick to condemn others for trying to improve material which I have added in future. I can now see the excellent work you all do so am somewhat eating humble pie as I write. Again many thanks Cassianto (talk) 23:32, 24 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please take a look at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 May 23#Operatic singer cats.4meter4 (talk) 18:56, 23 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Your input at Talk:Marinka would be helpful.4meter4 (talk) 20:38, 26 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What actually amazes me is that the guy did not change "soccer team" to "football club", which is the usual complaint by the Brits. But yes, you were quite right, I wrote that paragraph very deliberately in US English! Thank you.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:26, 30 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You are very welcome. This is clear from WP:MOS#National_varieties_of_English.. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:47, 30 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dear Ssilvers ... Thanks for your invaluable help in enhancing the Calthrop page. Regards, John Thaxter (talk) 13:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you, Ssilvers, for the copyediting help at The Kid (musical). Much appreciated. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 02:55, 6 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your help with this article. Thanks also for including me on the DYK for Patricia Preece; my input into the article was minimal and that was very generous of you. Jack1956 (talk) 10:56, 9 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You are very welcome. Re Preece: Nonsense, my good sir! You added all the images and did some of the research and writing. Plus, you inspired the article with your expansion of Grim's Dyke. -- Ssilvers (talk) 13:50, 9 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your help with the article!--Mamma Rose (Sing out, Louise!) 17:33, 17 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The cartoon on page 387 of this source is a satire on Patience. The article looks fairly stuffed with images, so I felt it better just to bring it to your attention and leave it to you to decide if it is worth uploading and using. There are a couple in there satirizing Pinafore, but I felt too much exposition would be needed. On an image hunt for John A. Macdonald likely TFA on July 1, and thought you might want to make use of these, if you think them worthwhile.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:31, 21 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey, your revert got reverted. Started a section at Talk:The Book of Mormon (musical) that you might want to put your opinion forward for.Mark E (talk) 22:49, 25 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You are a Theatre expert and thought you might want to take a look at Love, Loss, and What I Wore. How am I suppose to handle the international and national tours in the infobox? Advice/help appreciated.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:12, 21 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the help arranging the article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:37, 21 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You helped me out so much with my last piece of theatre (Love, Loss, and What I Wore) so much that I thought I would ask if you might be interested in helping me tidy up Celebrity Autobiography: In Their Own Words (play) and Edward Scissorhands (ballet). I have a bit more to do on the latter, but you could start without interference on the former.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:47, 26 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also started Christine Jorgensen Reveals.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:11, 27 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Welcome back. Thanks for cleaning up Celebrity Autobiography: In Their Own Words (play).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:12, 6 July 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Many thanks for that. Yeah fully agree with the streamlining, I put the info on expecting you to streamline it anyway. I like the way it works; I do some research and put the info on and your excellent copy editing and streamlining cuts out all the unessential stuff! With any luck this way of working may one day increase this article to GA standard or possible higher! Thanks again Cassianto (talk) 12:09, 6 July 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I did not just include you to be nice. You are essential to the high quality presentation of the subject matter. I am holding off on doing the 2011 winner until after you have time to get through your list and do Edward Scissorhands (dance). I can't really do these well without you.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Always happy to be of help. Keep up the good work, and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:51, 14 July 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have done a little bit of work on the above subject and would like you to have a glance, when you can at what I have added.... [snip] Cassianto (talk) 19:11, 16 July 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you very much for the barnstar - I am glad to know that my efforts are appreciated. Thanks again for the unexpected surprise, it was very kind of you, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:02, 18 July 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please feel free to drop back at the PR and let me know what you think of the revisions. I have not been able to figure out how to include the comments about religions and minorities in the lede and am reluctant to as I'm not convinced his private views affected public policy, although the comments are quoted in the body, however I think I've done the rest of what you wanted.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:18, 18 July 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Harold Pinter/archive1 which helped in the process of getting this article to FA status. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:39, 19 July 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi thanks for that. I didn't see it from that point of view and can see exactly what you mean. ... [snip] This is what is so great about Wikipedia. All the best Cassianto (talk) 20:39, 23 July 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I like the image you added to the Oscar Wilde article, it's not one I've seen before....[snip] Best, --Ktlynch (talk) 04:01, 7 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What do you think of the revised development section.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:48, 13 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, SSilvers. ... It seems c.1899 there was a saucy French farce about a dressmaker called ‘Coralie et Cie’, co-written by Hennequin and Valabrégue.... RLamb (talk) 17:15, 15 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ok, thanks for the fix on the link to the article on "The Emerald Isle." I'm working on an article on Arthur Collins, Equerry, and I wanted to do some editing before pushing too fast with the article, following WP's suggestion. So this would be a good example. Scogdill (talk) 20:12, 19 August 2011 (UTC)SharonReply[reply]

And thanks for the suggestions about biography, I really appreciate your patience as i learn the ropes. Scogdill (talk) 20:39, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have recently started improving on the above article and have started to do quite a bit of research into the subject. Obviously it's no where near complete and I intend to add a few bits of research surrounding marriages, children etc and expand on the sections already within the article. Seeing as it involves a person from within a subject I know you find interesting, I would really appreciate it if you could take a look with a view to giving it a quick ce. I would love to know if, what I have done so far, is any good. Best Wishes Cassianto (talk) 21:38, 20 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Many thanks for the copy edit on Mr. Champion. Still very much to do I'm sure you'll agree Cassianto (talk) 21:36, 23 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/BL/Image_requests -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:45, 4 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I meant to say "Thanks!". (I'll be away from my computer in the last 2 weeks of September, and then, will be at school--well really lifelong learning-- until mid-December, so I'm just doing odds and ends for the next few weeks, will be back full time in the Winter).JeanColumbia (talk) 12:49, 29 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of 11 articles the students will be working on.

In my opinion, infoboxes are redundant, and the same information is better given in narrative format in the WP:LEAD or other sections of the article instead of the choppy format in the box. The boxes make articles more difficult to edit, and daunting to even attempt to edit, for newbies. They are also the frequent targets of vandalism, and they almost invariably contain various errors. They take up valuable space near the top of an article and limit the size and layout of images near the top of the article. Finally, they distract editors from focusing on the content of the article; instead of improving the article, they spend lots of time working on this cosmetic feature and its extensive coding and formatting. Just my 2 cents. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• For bio articles, the person's dates and occupation are mentioned very clearly in the first sentence of the article.
• Information about the person's family members or cause of death are not so important that they should be the first thing that readers see
• The box does not emphasize the most important information, as the narrative LEAD section does so well.

See this. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:37, 3 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The planning page for the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts event is Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/WLL. Add your plans there on teaching and editathon-ing, and hopefully Kosboot will chime in too.--Pharos (talk) 16:31, 12 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

		The Guidance Barnstar
		Ssilvers, I want to thank you for all your time and patience in helping me make Stanley Holloway a Good Article. Without your help and guidance it would not have been possible. I would also like to thank you for correcting my many mistakes and for giving me some valuable and respected advice along the way. I would therefore feel honoured if you would accept this barnstar as a token of my thanks. Cassianto (talk) 18:06, 16 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi thanks for the message. I would be more than happy to contribute in some way. I'll get started straight away! Cassianto (talk) 18:30, 22 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK Nomination. -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:14, 28 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I had a bad setting! I would very much like to speak with you, my email is vgrigas@wikimedia.org -- Posted by User:Victorgrigas.

		The Military history reviewers' award
		By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your devoted contributions to the WikiProject's Peer, A-Class and Featured article reviews for the period Jul-Sept 2011, the Military history WikiProject Reviewers' award. Buggie111 (talk) 22:57, 1 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, Ssilvers, thank you very much for your suggestions on the Arthur Collins page. Since he ended his career as a courtier as a Gentleman Usher, I was thinking maybe I'd say Arthur Collins (courtier) for the disambiguation page. I represented him as a courtier on the Old Marlburians page, and while it would I think be traditional to call somebody by their highest title, I've gone with the more general one. [snip] Anyhow, thanks again! Scogdill (talk) 18:53, 7 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for chipping in with your thoughts. I've taken the liberty of moving your comment down to the appropriate section of the RfC (so-called "Uninvolved editors"). Cheers.--MistyMorn (talk) 21:32, 8 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[snip] Have a great spring yourself! --Soundofmusicals (talk) 23:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You've been deputized and you didn't even know it. DGG and Pharos suggested that the 3 of you could give introductions to Wikipedia around 1 pm, followed by 3 NYPL staff talking about collections. Then the 3 of you could repeat at 3 or 4, depending on demand. Though I brough up the idea of the training room, Pharos thought any training would be better done in the room reserved for the day. -- kosboot (talk) 16:39, 18 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

	Most-patient-Wiki-teacher & Far-above-and-beyond Award
	You definitely deserve an award for being the most patient teacher I have ever seen! Bravo! kosboot (talk) 07:12, 23 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply] Kosboot gives me a tacit shout-out here. [Ssilvers]

It was great to see you again, and I second Bob about your awesome wiki-teachering on Saturday :) I definitely also agree there is something to women being more cautious about making a potential "mistake" on Wikipedia, and that this is something we can help remedy through library-type training sessions.--Pharos (talk) 00:14, 28 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

[snip] I went to a concert at the New School for Social Research, and sure enough, the pianist Jay Gottlieb wasn't in WP ... Feel free to look at my page, User:Nbauman/Jay gottlieb, and tell me what you think. When I first started to create a page, I got a message that Malcolmxl5 had already deleted a page "Jay gottlieb" and to contact him first. I did leave a message http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Malcolmxl5#Jay_Gottlieb but I couldn't find any reference to the deletion, any reason for the deletion, or even any way to find out whether it's the same Jay Gottlieb. I'll give Malcolmxl5 a day or two and then submit the page. --Nbauman (talk) 00:23, 31 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I have had a go at extending the lead section for Henson. See what you think and feel free to reduce if needs be.... All the best Cassianto (talk) 22:37, 9 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks very much for that! I will start on the refs shortly... See what you think. All the best Cassianto (talk) 05:30, 10 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Great start to the article. I've gone ahead and moved the track listing down from the lead to its more conventional position (it should never be in the lead, always its own section), and made Charts a section as well (you merely bolded it as a title). I think I corrected a couple of other little things and changed the album time to what MP3 versions of the tracks tell me. I didn't add writer info (some are simply "Traditional" NEway) as they didn't appear on the Allmusic listing, but I may fart around other holiday albums and look these up later ("Believe", for instance, is located on The Polar Express soundtrack). [snip]

Just a quick note: the article is now at Heavenly Christmas, where it shall now stay until the day a DAB is needed, if ever. I'll update in other articles the location to prevent double redirects; you may do the same as we both may miss different occurrences. =) CycloneGU (talk) 23:44, 12 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re above, I have had a go at an extension of the lead and jiggled the images around due to displacement. One of those famous Ssilvers copy edit's needed I think Cassianto (talk) 19:59, 13 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there, could you take a look at the above re my new edits and give them a quick ce. All the best Cassianto (talk) 01:41, 17 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Excellent thank you for that! Cassianto (talk) 10:47, 17 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Ssilvers, I'm sorry i'm going to bother you again. I have had a go at improving Dan Leno using ODNB. I have a question. At the end of the article I have used a Quotebox to give a quote from Max Beerbohm. I have read WP:MOS backwards and cannot find anywhere which says I can't do this. I deliberated over putting it in a block quote so I am torn between the two. Is the Quote box reserved for newspapers only or is it for all written works? Or is a block quote better suited? ... Best regards. Cassianto (talk) 23:03, 17 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There'ss a interesting discussion about the future and the growth of the US education program along with the future of the Wikipedia Ambassador Project here. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Autumn 2011 course: Wikipedia:United States Education Program/Courses/Theatre Script Analysis (Leigh Clemons). -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:51, 12 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Could you look at this edit? Many thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:51, 30 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the feedback I feel so much better knowing your behind the scenes on this one. I don't really know what to put when it asks about the reliability of the four sources. I just know that BMD is reliable as its an alternative to ancestry.com and other genealogy sites of the similar theme, the only difference being is its free. BMd was also recommended to me when SH was going through it's GAN which is why I used it. I don't remember adding the music hall ref of the show picture, or if I did then it must be a long time ago. I will post Tim a message about the Gaye citation as it may have been him who added it. Incidentally the festive rush started a few weeks ago over here, so now seems like a good time to sit in and edit! All the best -- Cassianto (talk) 00:10, 1 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your assistance on some fairly recent GA promotions:

This user helped promote Edward Scissorhands (dance) to good article status.

This user helped promote Love, Loss, and What I Wore to good article status.

--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:42, 7 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'd put it back the way we had it. I don't think the other awards are terribly helpful to the reader in this particular case.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:32, 29 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Thx for 2011...to be continued ! Gozor136 (talk) 17:25, 31 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello! I am a professor of dance and dance history at Franklin & Marshall College in Pennsylvania. I am considering having my Dance History students, in the spring 2012 term, contribute somehow to Wikipedia's entries on dance and dance history. There is no one from our school who is a campus ambassador, and among the online ambassadors, no one has a dance specialty. I see that you do a lot of work in theatre, including the musical stage. Of course, theater and dance are sister arts. In fact, at my college, I am part of a department of Theatre, Dance, and Film. I wonder if you would be interested in working with my class (about 14 students) as our online ambassador? Looking forward to hearing from you!

Best regards, Lynn Brooks - Professor of Dance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lynndance (talk • contribs) 12:41, 12 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

S, see above for lede which I did (in rather a hurry)... Your thoughts? -- Cassianto (talk) 18:02, 17 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ssilvers, would you be willing to return to the article talk page to discuss this issue? I've partially reverted the referencing changes. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:11, 25 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I saw your post at Alarbus's talk page, since I recently posted there, and thought I might point you at WP:CITEVAR, which explicitly says that citation and referencing styles should defer to the style of the first major contributor. I recently went through a similar discussion at Talk:Ancient Roman pottery, so I understand how frustrating it is to be in the situation you're in. I don't know if you want to make a fuss about it, but if you'd like to return the article to the old referencing style I'd suggest pointing at CITEVAR on the talk page, and if necessary calling an RfC to get other editors' opinions. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:23, 26 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Review. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:54, 25 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As far as I know, this is NOT an article you have ever edited, or have any particular interest in (although it does, naturally, mention Sir Arthur Sullivan). Some one wants to hijack it for academic musical theory as opposed to general interest (at least that is my impression) and s/he and I have a dispute going. I would especially appreciate your opinion, as I can honestly say that we tend to differ rather than agree, all other things being equal. Perhaps you will see in his argument something I am missing. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 13:25, 31 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi! I just started Helen Barry who is a rare woman associated with the Monmouthpedia project. I can't find find much more about her. Do you have any stuff that could add to her biography? If not intrigued - don't worry. It was just a thought. Victuallers (talk) 12:42, 1 February 2012 (UTC) Well I'm very happy with what you've done. It looks much much better ... thanks Victuallers (talk) 19:41, 2 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Many musicals have a huge "Awards" section. An editor has now made these sections in dozens of articles even bigger and fatter by changing the format to a tabular format. I suggest moving these big Awards sections to a separate article, like this one: List of awards and nominations for the musical South Pacific. Then, we can leave just a paragraph or two in the article itself, describing the major awards, with a cross-reference to the new list article, like this: Fiddler on the Roof#Awards. When you get back, let me know if you would mind helping to do some of these? Hope your break is fun. Best regards! -- Ssilvers (talk) 6:10 pm, 21 July 2011, Thursday (5 months, 11 days ago) (UTC−4)

I think a major change to the strucure of Musical theatre articles such as this (tabular format) should have been/should be discussed with the project participants and other interested editors before making such changes. As this was not done, at least you have started the conversation at the project page; more discussion on this entire area (that is, how to show awards) is needed before ANY changes are made. It would be helpful if the editor who is making these changes (to tabular format) join the discussion; also, could this editor be asked to make the separate article-list awards articles, rather than having others do this work? ... Flami72 (talk) 7:32 am, 26 July 2011, Tuesday (5 months, 6 days ago) (UTC−4)

How would you feel about working with Adrianne Wadewitz's course at IUPUI? She is a Wikipedian, has been a Campus Ambassador, and is still searching for an Online Ambassador because she's extremely concerned about making sure her students have enough support. This seems like a very communicative person with whom you may enjoy working. JMathewson (WMF) (talk) 21:35, 7 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've looked over the article, and reverted the changes that were the result of vandalism. -Niceguyedc ^{Go Huskies!} 00:48, 24 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your help! -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:00, 24 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm sure you will join me in wishing Frederic the best on his 39th birthday!--Wehwalt (talk) 09:49, 29 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Here's good luck to Frederic's ventures! He'd better hurry, because in 4 years, he'll be middle-aged! -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:34, 29 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Indeed! Happy Birthday to Frederic! MarianWilde (talk) 16:37, 29 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for fixing my citations and for your copyedits on No, No, Nanette! I appreciate your editing experience and willingness to clean up my well-intentioned (but less-than-perfect) edits. -- MarianWilde (talk)

Ooooh. A title :) Thank you. :) --User:Woohookitty ^{Disamming fool!} 22:45, 19 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My students are starting to edit their articles - please watch out for them and help them! Thanks! Wadewitz (talk) 16:55, 27 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks. Goldnpuppy (talk) 16:12, 12 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your help with the article; especially what you did with the monument photo and inscription. The lead looks better as well. I've added to the critical response section, and I think it's good enough to stand as is in regard to what might be required for GA. Emily Dickenson is so different that I can't see using her FA article as an example. She's a much greater poet, is widely read, and has the attention of more scholars than can be counted. I'd rather compare Crabbe's article to another forgotten poet Jones Very, whose article is GA, and a bit less than what Crabbe's is. Can you take a look at the critical section as it now is and let me know what you think of a GAN? INeverCry 19:22, 21 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks again for your help. If I hadn't seen your changes I probably would've moved on to something else. I have a few new pictures of Crabbe to add, and then on to GAN. INeverCry 20:26, 21 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

While editing, I stumbled upon Category:Great Depression musicals and Category:Musicals set in the Roaring Twenties. They contain one and two musicals respectively (Great Depression musicals originally included Chicago (musical), but I removed it). I started a discussion on the project page on whether to keep or remove the categories, and if you have the free time, I'd like your opinion. Though I was originally fairly certain that I wanted to delete the categories, I'm now not sure if they have the potential to be helpful navigational tools or not. MarianWilde (talk) 16:42, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for you improvements to this article. Candleabracadabra (talk) 16:39, 30 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Paste a Google Books url into here and it will make the full refs. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:25, 30 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Looks OK. Thanks for the edits. I can't figure out if his script is mistaken or if he's misreading it; certainly the R&H O has gotten loose with the canon in recent years, as we both know from Flower Drum Song, but it's starting to annoy me.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:22, 13 June 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think your idea of putting the other title in parentheses would be a reasonable compromise, if he wants to compromise on the issue. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:01, 13 June 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yeah, it's worked well in other disputes. And I suspect that Stonecutters ... is often thought of as the title. And I've changed it back from IP edits several times ... it's worth thinking about. Kaiserkarl doesn't seem to edit that often, but I suspect we'll hear from him again.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:41, 14 June 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]