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Actually, ya. When I told you about the otter thing, you said "Cool! Another WikiOtter". That gave me the idea.-- Barkjon  01:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Good point. Also, regarding archiving bots, I suggest you get one, that way you don't have people editing your archives because their convo with you was moved into one, despite it still being active.

Bots have programing that figure out how long a section has been active, and if it has been inactive for a preset time, it is archived.— Dædαlus^T@lk / Improve 01:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

On 18 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article List of IIHF World Championship tournaments‎, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

They used your hook but forgot to give you this. :-) --Maxim_(talk) 12:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I was just thinking I should probably do that. I'll bundle any more I nominate, sorry. Andre666 (talk) 16:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help in this i added things to my talk page because i do not understand .

Did i put stuff in the Deletion Review section correctly ? i do not have the originaly page or talk section i wrote for wallace.

--Hermit711 (talk) 18:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

New info on my talk page Can you please help with this task and how do i edit it without it being live until i know it will be OK for everyone and accepted.

Thank you Garrett Griggs --Hermit711 (talk) 22:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey. I just nominated Progressive Episcopalians of Pittsburgh for AfD and the link in the AfD notice is broken. I remember you fixed somthing like that for me once before, and I was wondering if you could help me out again, and if you knew why it happened so I can prevent it in the future. I believe I used Twinkle both times. Thanks Beeblbrox (talk) 22:43, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Now, in an even more puzzling turn of events, the link has gone blue without anyone re-editing the page! Weird wild stuff. Anyway thanks again. Beeblbrox (talk) 02:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For your indefatigable contributions to the AfD process, for your insightful additions to the WP articles, and for your peerless support of your fellow WP editors. Job well done! Ecoleetage (talk) 00:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Sometimes I have trouble finding things like that deep within the inner workings of Wikipedia. And thanks for being a particularly friendly and helpful editor, all around. ~ Wakanda's Black Panther!♠/♦ 03:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I really don't appreciate you deleting all my stuff. You could be helpful instead of rude as well. I don't appreciate the attitude with which you address my posts either. User:RobDMB 22:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I have been deeply disappointed about your removal of my tag from article Suicide methods. By what chance and reason is there to keep this article? This article is plainly encouraging suicide. And fine. If you don't want to support the removal of this article, why not make a how-to-commit-suicide article here? Or, TELL ME HOW TO COMMIT SUICIDE BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE THAT THE ARTICLE SHOULD NOT BE REMOVED. State it. And I'm darn sure it'll happen, wouldn't it? Prowikipedians (talk) 09:04, 19 May 2008 (UTC) And wow...I found this article so useful that I could use it to kill myself. How interesting is that? Prowikipedians (talk) 09:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

"Weak keep per User:Mwalimu59's sources; seems to just barely meet WP:RS. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters " -- I just commented myself, pointing out that the sources cited by Mwalimu59 aren't really valid sources at all (for that article). (jarbarf) (talk) 22:09, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Damn Twinkle - didn't mean to post your page. Not a problem anyway: happens all the time! Fritzpoll (talk) 00:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of the bundling on this AfD! I really appreciate it. Qworty (talk) 00:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi 10PoundHammer, just FYI- I reverted your recent edit to The Sandy Post, in which you unlinked a person's name with a summary indicating that redlinks are a problem. Redlinks are not a problem -- they're vital to building the encyclopedia. -Pete (talk) 01:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh- sorry, I responded based on your edit summary alone, didn't really look into the situation. My apologies. -Pete (talk) 01:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA, which unfortunately didn't succeed. The majority of the opposes stated that I needed more experience in the main namespace and Wikipedia namespace and talk space, so that is what I will do. I have made a list and I hope I will be able to get through it. I will go for another RfA in about three month's time and I hope you will be able to support me then as well. If you have any other comments for me or wish to be notified when I go for another RfA, please leave them on my talk page. If you wish to nominate me for my next RfA, please wait until it has been about three months. I will not be checking back to this page so if you would like to comment or reply please use my talk page. Thanks again for participating in my RfA! ·Add§hore· ^Talk/_Cont 06:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, I've written this article as an attempt to introduce the articles on DNA, Gene and Genetics in a completely non-technical and approachable way. I was looking for some good editors with no background in science to look this over and advise me on how it could be improved. Would you have time to help with this? All the best Tim Vickers (talk) 16:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Were there any pieces that didn't quite make sense to you, or were a bit unclear? Tim Vickers (talk) 17:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi TPH, this was the first AfD for Vic Harris. You closed it, actually, but that's not really relevant here. The article was moved in the time between the two discussions. I don't know how to fix the infobox at the top of the page. Do you? Thanks, Darkspots (talk) 18:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you please check this one out- it reeks of advertising?Starstylers (talk) 05:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello TenPoundHammer/Archive 12! I'd like to leave a note of appreciation for your recent support of my request for adminship, which ended successfully today (and to my surprise) with 83 supports, 4 opposes, and 2 neutral. What I have taken back from my RFA is that I've perhaps been too robust in debate and I will endevour to improve upon that aspect of my usership. I would like to thank you again and state here that I will not let any of my fellow Wikipedian's down. Thanks again! --Jza84 |  Talk  11:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I appreciate the review, but I think putting the article on hold would've been a better idea. There are very few sources available on the song, so I think it's content is fine. I could add a link to the lyrics on MTV if you want ? which would verify the message contained in the song. The sample info is sourced in the Blender ref, it just doesn't have an in-line citation, which I'll fix right away, along with adding a ref for the charts. Would you reconsider the fail to being put on hold ? - Guerilla In Tha Mist (talk) 22:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I've taken care of most of your concerns, care to have another look ? - Guerilla In Tha Mist (talk) 22:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the review and passing the article ! Btw, I listed it at Wikipedia:Good articles for you. - Guerilla In Tha Mist (talk) 23:07, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I understand that wikipedia requires reliable third party resources to support my articles, I read that loud and clear and I understand it. The REAL question for me is why does there have to be a review or a rating? It can be bought online from many big retailers such as Wal-Mart, FYE, and Amazon.com; AND it is even listed in some of the places you name such as All Music Guide, etc. I cited those places in the articles. Third party? Check Reliable well known source? check So what's the deal? Please explain to me why that's not notable enough? I'm willing to listen and learn. - (RobDMB (talk) 04:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC))

Thanks so much oh fellow country music fan for your support in myRfA, which closed successfully this morning. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 16:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Why did you message me?--Spittlespat (talk) 22:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for uploading Image:SPLUT!.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. ...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 22:50, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, if I speedy an article that is up for AfD then please do not do a non-admin close because I wish to carry out out my own close in order to record my reasons for the speedy. If such an AfD is not closed after several hours then that is the time for a non-admin close. HTH. TerriersFan (talk) 23:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I wanted to bring this dude to afd because I'm getting nada in google news, but I figured I'd check with you first because you're a mucic aficionado. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 03:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Done. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 03:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

TPH, thanks for catching Truespel; I've speedy deleted it as hopelessly promotional. Bur p[ease don't use G11 G4 repost except after a previous AfD or other XfD--it's a little confusing. If it gets re-created again let me know, because I will want to consider blocking the person who's reinserting it. DGG (talk) 18:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

sorry, got the numbers mixed up!. DGG (talk) 18:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I did already ask him to take back the trout he slapped the nom with, but no reply. I'm gone for the weekend. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 19:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi! I see you reverted my edits on the said article. I removed the TV series' logo as the ogg video already displays the aforementioned logo (redundant). Thoughts? †Bloodpack† 23:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

This one is pretty much word for word from Cason's official site's biography. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Cason --MyGrassIsBlue (talk) 20:09, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

That was blindingly quick. Thanks! I'll have to repost it manually.  AcroX  16:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that. I wasnt sure of how to do things properly.Cm619 (talk) 23:28, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help!! --Npnunda (talk) 00:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I have looked at your contributions, and I would be happy to nominate you for adminship. I saw you had failed RFAS, and don't have the courage to nominate yourself. Please let me know on your decision.--LAAFan 19:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

If you haven't seen already, I created a basic Tim Mensy page. Hope I helped out. --LAAFan 19:43, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

My question was whether it was allowed & acceptable to revert edits by a blocked sockpuppeteer (in the midst of other vandalism) without checking for merit.

This particular person (scrivin, a/k/a DavidYork71) has over 300 sockpuppets, and is blocked for life, so I was not too careful. Checking a reference is not very easy.

Sorry if I overstepped. It might be a good idea to clarify the policy on the WP:SOCK page.

Thanks though, Wwheaton (talk) 19:52, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I dont want to make a ref list. I want to make just a normal list into two columns.Y5nthon5a (talk) 01:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

• Do you know how to just make a list? It's all good if you don't. Y5nthon5a (talk) 01:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
  • A song list. I dont want the page to be too long so I want to put them side by side. Like the references on the Fat Joe page.Y5nthon5a (talk) 02:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I would have done this, but I felt that title did not deserve to be redirected. Either way, it is done now. :)  Asenine  18:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

"I quick failed Polyclonal response because of the ((copyedit)) tag. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 18:29, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

• Okay, maybe I shouldn't have. I didn't take into consideration that the article had already been copy edited and the tag waas left on by mistake. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 18:40, 27 May 2008 (UTC)"

It's alright. In fact, I too am to be blamed. The user who failed the article in the first place had warned me about removing the ((copyedit)) tag, but had never thought that the "assessment" would be so quick. Just as I removed the tag (I only had put it in the first place in spite of not really feeling an urgent need for copyediting!), I saw the message flashed "you have a new message (last change)"!

It took me a bit of effort, but I have renominated it. You can of course now assess it.

Regards.

—KetanPanchal^taLK 19:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for putting the template there. Originally it was longer but someone shortened it. I did fix the short introduction right after you put the template there. Kevin Rutherford 20:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

It can only get better from here. Thanks for the suggestion though. I never really thought of that. Kevin Rutherford 20:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

When you have a moment, could you quickly look over the 'Origins,' 'Introduction' and 'WWII' sections and tell me what you think? Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I fixed it as much as possible. I'm just a bit iffy on the use of the webpage citation template. Thanks though for all your help on fixing the page. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Somebody did that once and I couldn't figure out why or how they did it. It makes sense though. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

No mentioning of an album or no information on the person's signed label. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 01:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. If you agree with me that it should be speedily kept so the creator can continue working on it please go ahead and close it that way. —BradV 02:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I have great confidence in your work at AfD, and am sure I'm not the only one. I have no idea why the cabal won't let you in. —BradV 02:14, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

No idea. Apparently there is no cabal. —BradV 02:31, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

TPH, a quick note: please be aware that you can't close AfDs that you've already !voted in, especially closing as speedy keep. It's mostly procedural; I agree with your close and would have done similarly, but with cases like that, the outcome should already be obvious enough that you don't need to close it yourself. Thanks. GlassCobra 05:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Fail, yes: although the lead and the part pertaining to real numbers are nicely written, it subsequently jumps up a couple levels of difficulty to the point of being incomprehensible. But quick fail? I'd only quick-fail it if it contained incorrect information, and I am no expert. 69.140.152.55 (talk) 03:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello, TenPoundHammer. You have new messages at 69.140.152.55's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the ((Talkback)) or ((Tb)) template.

I have been wary to label any poker player articles as A7, or outright delete any, because of this article: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madeleine Rowan (2nd nomination). Because it has been kept once before at AfD but is probably the most blatantly non-notable poker player to ever exist on wikipedia (and in fact it may be kept again). Because of this article I've taken the safe route with all poker player articles, but apparently I'm being too safe. –– Lid^(Talk) 00:47, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi could you have a look at my actions at ntfsprogs and let me know what I may being doing wrong and/or correctly. I don't want to get "into it" with the other editor as he seems to have the best intentions for creation of the article. Thank you. Jasynnash2 (talk) 09:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Curious as to why you did this - [1] - this info is taken directly from his website. Exxolon (talk) 19:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of Good Humour
		For always keeping us in stitches at AFD. Thanks for lighting up Wikipedia, TPH. Cheers, --Mizu onna sango15/水女珊瑚15 20:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC).

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Last Man Standing (Ryan Shupe & the Rubberband album). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. RobDMB (talk) 21:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I have worked very hard to make my first post and it is already up for deletion. Can you please help. I am trying to add the topic of Objectùm-sexuality and it is recognized by the German Wikipedia as Objektophil, yet it is being called neologism here in English. I founded Objectùm-Sexuality Internationale^[1] and I can assure you that this condition exists. It has been adressed quite frequently in the media internationally as of very recent. It would be a shame to have this deleted. I really wish to see more authoritative articles that might help alleviate the derogatory bashing that exists because people are unaware of this condition. Berliner Mauer (talk) 03:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for trying to help. BTW, I wasn't referring to bashing from Wiki but from online forums. Sorry for the misunderstanding. On June 4th will be a one hour documentary covering OS... is this enough to verify this article? Berliner Mauer (talk) 07:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Dear Ten Pound,

John here, I am the new webmaster/myspace manager for George Ducas. I know there has been some back and forth with George's page; at your earliest convenience, I'd very much appreciate it if would you please contact me to discuss "all things George" at (e-mail deleted -- TPH), or feel free to reach me on my cell at 615-491-6309 when you have a moment.

I'd like to involve you in writting for the upcoming project release.

Talk soon and have a great weekend,

John —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.39.22 (talk) 15:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Dear Ten Pound,

I notice you suggested that the Carousel Theatre entry be deleted. I'd really like to improve it instead. Can you help improve it? Cheers, Carole Carole Higgins (talk) 04:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ten Pound, Thanks for your response. There are other references, but now I can't even seem to get into the page to edit and improve it. Perhaps you can help. Google: Carousel Theatre Vancouver and several different sources come up. Help! Carole Higgins (talk) 04:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Eric444 (talk) 04:53, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Erm... sorry about that. I had one too many PBRs this evening and went a-patrollin'. --/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 04:58, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ten Pound,

I have resolved my computer issues, and cited several more references for Carousel Theatre. Can you take a look and tell me what you think?

Cheers, Carole Carole Higgins (talk) 05:07, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions. I fixed the broken link and found two newspaper articles about Carousel Theatre and added those. Hopefully this has improved the page and asserted the subject's notability. Carole Higgins (talk) 05:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Nonsense- it is an advert. It reeks to high hell of it. Numerous commentators on the articles talk page can see through this very transparent attempted mask. It is an overt facade- the article is of a music store of little to no consequence much like any other around the globe. Any assertion to the contrary would be total self-delusion.Starstylers (talk) 08:11, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

So- as you cannot see it- it must not exist- and myself and others are wrong? Starstylers (talk) 16:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, differences of opinion aside- I think it can be agreed it was still a pretty shitty article to be a featured article- surely there were hundreds of far better ones. Starstylers (talk) 16:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

As a new member of Wikipedia, I felt the impact of your hammer by the tag you placed in the Article on Ray Joseph Cormier. Deferring to your experience and seniority I would welcome your suggestions on improving it. Believing it aims to make the encyclopedia easier to read in English by stating basic verifiable facts without embellishment, it conforms to the overriding principle that style and formatting should be applied consistently throughout an article, and defers to the style used by the first major contributor, a Wikipedia Administrator.

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 12:21, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi tenpoundhammer i just more or less need like those little pictures for example like I play football I speak french just for example and then just the layout of everything. Thanks for caring.Catswilltakeovertheworld1day (talk) 13:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Ten. I looked for the single sentences and combined some of them. I have images I would like to post between the single sentences on the trips in 1981 and 1986 but I haven't figured out how to do that yet. The images already posted were done by the creator of the article and I have not heard from him for a week. The single sentence on being invited to lunch with the Pope's Ambassador to Canada will be expanded in time to convey a sense of being there.

As to sections for this work in progress, I envision only three for now. Preamble Prophecy and Preparation with a fourth on Prophecy again.

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 18:59, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again, Ten. It looks better already. It will be even better with the other related images when I learn how to post them.

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 19:21, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I've addressed many of the issues which you talked about in the review. It would be appreciated if you could take a look at it again, and tell me what you thought.--EclipseSSD (talk) 19:46, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I saw you redirect something I nominated for deletion when I had just nominated another from same user. It seems the user has not followed the naming convention for articles in the category, so I'm not sure if a redirect is useful given the new stub does not offer any new information, and neither is its title--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 01:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I have notified the user creating these to check before he does any more, and will redirect any more I encounter myself. Regards--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 01:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much for reviewing Benjamin Franklin High School (New Orleans, Louisiana). I've made some changes to the article and added comments to Talk:Benjamin Franklin High School (New Orleans, Louisiana)/GA1. Two things I'm still not sure about are the use of "Ben Franklin" and the notable alumni list. --Jh12 (talk) 10:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Woohoo!! Thanks a bunch and have a great day --Jh12 (talk) 12:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I've now reformatted all references, and cleaned them up, and also added references to the plot section. It would be appreciated if you could take a look at it now. Thanks, --EclipseSSD (talk) 13:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Ten, your instructions on creating sections was simple and precise and hopefully that satisfies the requirements to remove the tag you placed in the article on Ray Joseph Cormier. I have two images I would like to upload and mount as thumbnails in the open space next to the contents box. If you or someone would provide me a step by step process to do that, with the appropriate tag, I would be most grateful. I have been reading for hours and still can't find the way. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 11:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Ten, thanks for removing your tag. Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 17:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Ten that was easy but I cannot see how to attach the thumbnail to the Article. The images are on site as: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Maclean%27s_Cover.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MacLean%27s_People.jpg This is the applicable tag: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Non-free_historic_image Could the %27 be removed from the names the images and mounted next to the Content Box? DoDaCanaDa (talk) 12:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe the tag provided covers any potential controversy. The actual tag, as it reads, is attached to the images already in the article. Sometimes in life one has to take a chance and risk to accomplish anything. The images add to the understanding of the reader and for all other reasons in the tag. Perhaps other readers would weigh in with an opinion. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 14:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll defer to your opinion, however since the images are not posted to the article there is no need to immediately delete them. Let's see what other users have to say, OK? The images are almost thirty years old and not likely to be reproduced and are used as a Reference in the article. The item in the People section of MacLeans is an antithesis to the Cover. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 12:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate what you're doing Ten, but why don't we wait and see if other users have an opinion on whether the images should be added to the Article . I believe this is the WikipediA way. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 16:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Ten I know I need new glasses and I would like to see the images in the Article, but I'm struggling to maintain a NPOV. Having read the guidelines on fair use, I see all 10 conditions are met. Please, if I am blind, restore my sight. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 16:21, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I haven't and I am contributing to the decision of what to do with the article. DeadmanUndertaker 19:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Should I just stop then? DeadmanUndertaker 19:21, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

To be honest I am basing my opinions on the rating of the article in terms of quality and importance. I think that articles that have been brought into question should have their quality and importance ratings pointed out to sway the decision. DeadmanUndertaker 19:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to properly use the rational or even get an image to appear. Yojimbo501 (talk) 21:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ten Pound, The Carousel Theatre entry has been improved to include references that speak to Carousel Theatre's influence and history. Cheers, Carole Higgins (talk) 05:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll start formatting them this week as time permits. Eric444 (talk) 10:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Since you have been involved in articles on this subject, I feel you would be interested in this DRV. DS (talk) 13:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Ten I expanded the one liner on the subject. Any opinion? DoDaCanaDa (talk) 15:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

In the main article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Joseph_Cormier

By the way, how do you put that little box when replying to an ongoing subject? DoDaCanaDa (talk) 15:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

That tiny square when you answer DoDaCanaDa (talk) 15:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The tiny little blue square dot before every answer DoDaCanaDa (talk) 15:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

• like this? Cool. Thanks

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 15:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

• By the way I mailed Macleans Magazine asking their permission to post the images we discussed yesterday.

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 16:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

• I'm glad you deleted the new subject yesterday. I was temporarily blinded in my zeal. I hope you agree it's better now.

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 16:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh ok, just wondering. But yeah I understand.

---Piazzajordan2 17:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Ten, last Thursday [[2]] posted a tag disputing the neutrality of the article on Ray Joseph Cormier calling for discussion. The same day he was invited to start the discussion from his POV but there has been no discussion at all. What is a reasonable time period to wait before removing the tag? DoDaCanaDa (talk) 22:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

• Thats what I said. I went to his user talk and asked him to start the discussion. That's almost a week now and he hasn't yet. What's the general rule on removing tags?

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 01:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Ten, you have been so very helpful these last days, but I have one more request if you please. I uploaded two more images I want them posted centered, side by side, like an open book between the Preparation section and the previous paragraph under Politics. I've tried various ways and still can't get it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Joseph_Cormier

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ottawa_Focus.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ottawa_Focus_1.jpg

Peace DoDaCanaDa (talk) 03:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

• Ten, Focus was a free newspaper distributed in downtown Ottawa in 1984. It is now in the Public Domain since Focus ceased to be that same year. Perhaps I just put the wrong tag on it. Please don't be hasty in deleting them.

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 03:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

• You're really hitting me hard with that hammer Ten. If I made a mistake uploading the images, it was an honest mistake. Focus was a free newspaper distributed in Ottawa in 1984 and ceased publication the same year. It exists no more. It would be reasonable to assume it falls within the Public Domain category under these circumstances.

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 04:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello yet again. I regretfully inform you that the bot we were using to update the user status at Wikipedia:Highly Active Users, SoxBot V, was blocked for its constant updating. With this bot out of operation, a patch is in the works. Until that patch is reviewed and accepted by the developers, some options have been presented to use as workarounds: 1) Qui monobook (not available in Internet Explorer); 2) User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate; 3) Manually updating User:StatusBot/Status/USERNAME; or 4) Not worry about it and wait for the patch to go through, which hopefully won't take long. If you have another method, you can use that, too. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Useight (talk) 18:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, you placed a "too long" tag on Somerset Towers. I've started a discussion on the articles talk page to see if others agree and what could be split out - perhaps you'd be kind enough to visit and contribute to the discussion?— Rod ^talk 18:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to say thanks for your quick response to my helpme. I've discussed the article with the user and all is good. »xytram« talk 15:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Waaaah there are so many!!!! Can't we just wave a wand or say "abracadabra" or something? - eo (talk) 18:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, p.s. we can't forget these lovelies laid out in the "categories" section:

• Hot 100 Songs & Tracks
• Top 30 CDs Sales
• Top 20 Musical DVDs
• Hot 30 Dance Club Play - eo (talk) 18:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I noticed that you added an "expand" tag to the ED article. Do we really want to encourage people to expand the article? ideally, we do, but right now I think that the article includes all the sourced content that it's going to get from the sources citing ED which have been published, and any content that isn't sourced is being swiftly removed. For example, I put what is supposedly the site creator's real name (Sherrod Degrippo) in the article without a source, but this was quickly removed. So until further sources are published mentioning ED, I'm not sure if we need to be encouraging editors to expand upon it.--Urban Rose 20:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I saw your message on Zeke's talk page, so I wondered to see what you've done here. I was looking at some of the pages you created, and, for example, I have been to the Lansing Mall and Meridian Mall (Michigan) malls. That's interesting. Cheers --  ✰AmericanEagle  23:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I have edited that Japanese alias article, split the 'how-to' stuff into a non-WP article, and put the Alien registration card info into a separate WP article. I have applied for a peer review. If you would like to contribute to either article, please do so. If you need to discuss the article, pleased do it on the article discussion page, and not my talk page. Thanks.--Mak Allen (talk) 02:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Japanese alias: I'm curious as to why you asked me for help on this page. I don't remember ever doing anything with it. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 10:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

That's right, now that I recall, you just gave me some general guidance on my talk page about eliminating 'how to' content. Perhaps you never even saw the article. In any case, if you are not too busy, you may want to take a look and critique whether I have followed your advice. Thanks again.--Mak Allen (talk) 10:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Would you be interested in giving your two cents based on the discussion Kaldari and I have had on that article's AFD? Spell4yr (talk) 17:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I use your viewpoints typically as my country music barometer, so if the article's good enough for you, while it's still not good enough for me I'm rescinding my vote. Spell4yr (talk) 17:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

You could certainly change the article to one about the album as long as it's notability itself. How the disambiguation is handled would depend entirely on how popular both are. A decision would have to be made on what is the most likely intention of a search for that term, the beach boys song or the country album. --neon white talk 21:57, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I know you usually go to mabbit IRC. I can't seem to go there. There's a new formstting on the main page which just makes in confusing. Do you think you can show me how to enter IRC through Mabbit? --RyRy5 (talk) 02:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Then I guess you don't use it. Well, can you try to figure the fomatting out anyway? Mibbit is located here.--RyRy5 (talk) 02:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

If any question remains, I'll be glad to forward you my complete correspondence with Dzonatas as verification that he has harassed me and that my behavior toward him has been completely appropriate. Durova^Charge! 09:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I have never asked you about anything, but I have seen you contribute to many Country singers' articles and their singles charts. Do you know if could add the rest of 80s Country singer, Karen Brooks' singles. I only have one, "Fakin' Love", but I am curious if you know her chart postions and could add them. I just created her article today. It would be a great benefit to her article. Thanks for your time. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 01:45, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok great, I'll aske one of them. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 15:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Doh, didn't notice that the article had been hijacked there. As a stub I would have easily voted keep at the AFD. Guess that'll teach me not to check the history next time! Benon (talk) 21:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Some Things Never Change (disambiguation) got zapped. I added the appropriate hat-notes to Some Things Never Change and Greatest Hits (Sara Evans album), as well as adding comments to Talk:Greatest Hits (Sara Evans album) and the talk for the redirect Some Things Never Change (Sara Evans song). I also fixed up the redirect Some Things Never Change (song). As soon as someone decides that Sara Evans's song was notable since it ranked 26th, there will need to be some movement. Some Things Never Change (song) will probably have to be moved to Some Things Never Change (Supertramp song) and Some Things Never Change (song) repointed to Some Things Never Change (Sara Evans song). Of course, if anyone writes a best-selling book with that name, the (disambiguation) page will be back. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 02:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Because it could, potentially, result in the deletion of literally dozens of articles I've worked on. Has there been some sort of movement to strip charting albums from the kinds of things we look for in determining notability? That worries me terribly, because charting an album is no mean feat, even on the satellite genre-specific charts, and is really an ironclad indicator of a group's widespread popularity. What do you think about this? I'd like to have an honest talk about it before it turns into an AfD battle. I'm so sick of fighting with people over notability issues here. Chubbles (talk) 19:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

The album charts are keyed to a reliable source and are consistent with WP:V. Album and single charts are published by the same people, so I don't see why they ought to be treated differently.

If you'll forgive me for philosophizing a bit on your talk page, what depresses me here is that the fact that the albums charted is a clear indication that a lot of people care about this music, that it has a legitimate claim to permanence, and yet I still can't find a soul who agrees with me that it should be here. (For what it's worth, I wish you cared as much about underground hip-hop as you do about country and Americana, because then we'd have a ton more decent articles about it.) We have moved far beyond scuttling the bar bands and self-promotional garbage that used to be (and, of course, still are, in part) the main targets of AfD and A7, and are pinging off, at an alarming rate, groups which achieved significant, even if brief, levels of exposure. (And the briefness, of course, isn't an argument against permanence; any one-hit wonder ought to be covered here just as much as a regular hitmaker...right?) I've written a ton of articles on bands simply because they charted, and I don't write articles I don't think aren't going to be here in 50 years. If the wind is blowing the other way, I want to know as soon as possible so I stop wasting my time.

I don't know. I just wish my interactions with people here consisted of more than just angry disputes over the inherent worth of popular music. Chubbles (talk) 20:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Since you voted in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hot100Brasil, can you give your opinion about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United World Chart? Tosqueira (talk) 21:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I know I'm doing it wrong, but I'm asking another user to help me. I had trouble using the right pages as the article was nominated before (which an overwhelming delete support). I don't understand why wikipedia is hosting a propaganda piece that is FAR from neutral. No one has made an attempt to clean it up (it's kinda hard to considering the source material) which is why I feel it is a strong candidate for deletion. Wikifan12345 (talk) 22:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)thanks for any help!

The sources are FAR from reliable, as demonstrated by the overwhelming support for its deletion. It draws from highly biased sources (like Uri Avnery) throughout the article. It's politically motivated and not right for wikipedia. You wouldn't find this in any Encyclopedia. Now, if you can find some people who are willing to correct the article, then fine. But until then, it needs to go.

Wikifan12345 (talk) 22:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. The article has been around for more than a year, has gone through several nomination proceeses, and yet still fails to deliver the political balance (a.k.a neutrality) necessary to be hosted on wikipedia. I've tried taking a stab at editing, but the source material is just too hard to work with. It would take a total re-write to fix. The last deletion process had an overwhelming majority for DELETE, yet it still remains. I'm not familiar with the process but I'm sure there was a good reason why it stayed...but that was in 2007. Anyways, I, and many others would like to see the article gone. Propaganda is not something that should be on wikipedia. I hope that you agree. thanks for the fast response! Wikifan12345 (talk) 01:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I've been editing for more than 6 months (fixing typos, helping stubs, etc..). It's only recently that I've registered a name. I'm honestly shocked that this article is being allocated bandwith. It's insulting. Propaganda should never be part of an encyclopedia like wikipedia. You would never find that article in britannica. Wikifan12345 (talk) 01:33, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I've done that. This all boils down to keeping a propaganda piece, or deleting it. Yes there is potential to clean, but so far no one has made an attempt. And I can't do because I'm not neutral. And I know the original authors weren't either. This article was started with bias and has ended in bias. I can't think of any reasons why it should stay other than the possibility of cleaning it, which isn't going to happen any time soon. So, if you can find someone who is willing to clean it, please let me know. For now I will continue my search to get rid of this article. Wikifan12345 (talk) 01:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Ten, I'm assuming you answered the private e-mail on my user talk because you want members to discuss the issue as the Democratic principles of Wikipedia encourage. When other images were uploaded, not to the article, they were deleted within 5 minutes so no other users could offer an opinion. I know your opinion, but I have not seen anyone else weigh in except the WikipediA Administrator who posted the images already in the Article with the tag he deemed appropriate. He has been away for a while now, and not knowing how to post thumbnails myself, they won't be until the members decide by discussion.

Private e-mail: "After the deep shit I got in uploading those last images, I don't want to do that again. I'm attaching two images I would like you to examine closely. I believe they can be posted to the article with this tag: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Non-free_historic_image. If you agree, you would make me so happy to check the article and see them posted as thumbs in a spot you think best. Please!"

Since Wikipedia users cannot see the scans for the discussion, I trust they are astute enough, in reading the article to decide whether the images related to references 5, 6 & 8 should be seen to add understanding and perspective to the reader. By going to history a user can see for themselves the images and tag removed by the image removal bot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Joseph_Cormier DoDaCanaDa (talk) 13:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I know this isn't a REALLY good thing.. but I am just shy.. mind replying to something again?.. thanks :). --BigOz22 (talk) 18:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Looks much better. When it comes to bands on CSD, my policy is, if it has any links at all beyond their own homepage and a myspace, then I won't touch it. The old version didn't even have that much. --Golbez (talk) 19:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for helping me with my issue. I have left notices for all parties to please edit in good faith. However, after watching some of the famous Skeptics (From the Skeptical Inquirer) at the university I use to attend, I do not think they are capable of editing in good faith.

Thank you

Magnum Serpentine

Magnum Serpentine (talk) 20:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello Bobby! How are you? I think you are doing a very good job on AfDs. Keep up the good work. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Bobby, can I nominate you for adminship after few months? I think you deserve to be an admin. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I think you should wait until September. I will support your RfA. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for helping this (relative) newbie with the AfD. I appreciate it! EBY3221 16:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC) Thanks, part 2. And part 3. For good advice, on both fronts. EBY (talk) 17:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

This article has been left untouched for a while now. Could you please review it? Thanks. ~Meldshal42 17:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Instead of tagging it, why don't you review it first? ~Meldshal42 17:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Would you mind then if I asked another user to review it? ~Meldshal42 17:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Are the entries in the Kim Richey songwriting list all notable? I don't believe some of them were singles or charted. --MyGrassIsBlue (talk) 08:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Please comment at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement#Jaakobou soliciting random editors off-wiki, as the discussion in part involves your activity. GRBerry 13:26, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Ten, I just discovered if Ray Joseph Cormier is Googled the link to your talk page comes up. Being ignorant on how search engines work, how has this come to be? DoDaCanaDa (talk) 14:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I've commented here; don't know if you plan to be part of the discussion or just templated and left it to others to decide the fate of the article (no shame in the latter, it's what I plan to do myself ;) ). Cheers, · AndonicO ^Engage. 18:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree there are no reliable sources on the subject, but I do not agree with deleting the article. · AndonicO ^Engage. 01:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Because, while there are no reliable sources, none are really needed. It is a term that is used in gaming and computing, albeit not as often as "leet" words. (At the very least, as I mentioned on the AFD, it should redirect to wiktionary.) · AndonicO ^Engage. 01:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps. · AndonicO ^Engage. 01:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

No cites in the article but his own website; all the rest could be nonsense, for all I know. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC) (hasn't liked a lot of so-called "country" since Mother Maybelle passed away)

Interested? Email me. /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 22:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

TPH,

Thanks for posting this article on OFS, with references. It looks great. I am a friend of the family and I look forward to watching this grow over the years. About Decca, I know they were signed on the spot in New York when they showcased for Sony and the label is Decca Records. For accuracy sake can we change the signing year 2007 for that is it.

Thanks Again,

Dsn7352 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.173.230.188 (talk) 22:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

TPH,

You Rock :).

I'll start studying the wiki info.

Thanks,

Dsn7352 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.173.230.188 (talk) 22:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Por favor, move my question about the WWE to the reference desk. Ericthebrainiac (talk) 00:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but before I get to my question, let me discuss your reply. You wrote in part, "When you've asked your question, please put the tag back so we know to check back. [. . . .] Please quit using the ((helpme)) template unless you actually have a question". Expert Wikipedians tend to reference technical procedures without adequate explanation and state advice in an abrupt and callous manner. Thank you for providing a *nonchat* link for me to contact you by -- the previous volunteer (just one to two hours ago) did not even do that. Many Internet users access the Internet over networks that forbid chatting. Next, your (and the other person's) instructions are unintelligible to me. Both of you instructed "put the tag back" -- I'm not sure what that means. YOU have added an instruction "quit using ..." instruction which presumes I am impatient or unserious. I replied to the previous help responder at his own email (not explicitly displayed, but rather embedded in his message), and he didn't respond.

NOW here's my help request. How can a Wikipedian be discouraged from editing an article (a BLP) while they refuse to discuss editing disagreements? How can a Wikipedian be discouraged from persisting in representing unsourced statements as being sourced? I am trying to delete from the article both the assertion of a falsehood (because it's a falsehood!) and the assertion that some particular person holds that belief (because in fact no source has been cited that confirms that BLP's subject holds that belief).

In the last 24 hours, I have gotten into an edit war with one other Wikipedian over a BLP. I object to a article text that is nonfactual AND unsourced. I insist on deleting it, and my adversary insists on inserting it. My adversary insists on *inserting unsourced material*, plus she *refuses to debate me* at the article's Talk page. My adversary erroneously claims that what she is inserting is the biography subject, Chesler's, own understanding of events that Chesler experienced. My adversary has acknowledged just a few of the points I have raised. I have presented reasons on the Talk page, referenced the Talk page in my edit summaries, and responded promptly to the points she has raised. She early on quit acknowledging, let alone responding, to my arguments.

Please note that the controversial claim is being attributed to the subject of the biographical entry, but by checking the cited source, I determined that the source does not substantiate this. The material I am deleting is a *misinterpretation* of the subject's statements by one or more Wikipedians. My adversary (Quizzical Bee) refuses to acknowledge that this material she insistently inserts is a misinterpretation.

Please also note that initially, I scolded the subject of the biography, Chesler, for making certain factual claims. I soon discovered that it was not Chesler who explicitly made these claims. I shared this discovery at the Talk page. (One can still scold Chesler for recounting an episode of her life 45 years later in a way highly subject to the misinterpretation that occurred. In fact, Chesler does insinuates she holds the mistaken factual belief -- but she DOES NOT clearly so state.) Hurmata (talk) 00:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your two prompt replies in the last hour or so. Your advice was to resort to WP dispute resolution procedures. I did look them up and I have opted for Informal Mediation. Hurmata (talk) 01:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for directing me to a party more suitable to my problem. But you didn't help me to be a savvier Wikipedian by responding to my request for an explanation of (boilerplate) instructions *you* gave me. What is "putting the tag back" and why is it a good thing to do? You responded to my help request with a constructive answer. Therefore, who needs to "check back" with me; and if I were to put the tag back, why wouldn't that mean I'm repeating my help request? Hurmata (talk) 01:17, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I understand that I said it wrong the 1st time, but how is saying "See WP:DICK" a personal attack? 24.12.114.215 (talk) 02:33, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing the Michael Mullady article for deletion entry for me! IndulgentReader (talk) 18:26, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Dear Bobby, I was checking through the AfDs and I remember one had a tag called 'possibly copyright violations.' Do you know how to access this site? I forgot to bookmark it. I'm sure its arranged like the series of articles listed on a prod. Personally, I don't know how Wikipedia even determines if an article is a possible copyright violation.

PS: How do you keep track of 'suspicious' articles here? With more than 2 million articles on Wikipedia, its almost impossible to tell which are hoaxes, libelous, spam or just plain unnotable or trivia. Thank You, Artene50 (talk) 23:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

• Am I required to inform a person who created an article if we are nominating it for deletion. someone said it was not necessary. PS: The article on Anderson Biro appears to be the work of a spammer. Artene50 (talk) 02:00, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

• OK I just did that Bobby. Somehow I think I just told a spammer about my AfD on his 'article.' Yikes! He tried to create another article on an Anderson Biro LLC a few days ago. When it got speedy deleted, he moved to Anderson Biro instead. I wish there was a way to monitor new additions to Wikipedia for spam sometimes. Artene50 (talk) 02:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I thought I had right but it keeps coming up wrong. Where was my mistake? Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 14:50, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

There are several other noms that I messed up on. Would you be so kind as to assist me? L0b0t (talk) 14:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I can't begin to thank you enough for cleaning up my mess at AfD. Have a barnstar and a great weekend. Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 15:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For service above and beyond at AfD. L0b0t (talk) 15:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I removed it because somebody put sources for it, with some external links. --Martin4647 (talk) 21:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry i havn't gotten back to you. At the time, i did not fully understand the unencyclopedic tag, but have now learned more about when it should and shouldn't be used. - -[The Spooky One] | ^{[t c r]} 05:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

On 16 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article One Flew South, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 07:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

With the changes made to Steve Herman, do you think it should be kept? I think it just squeaks through as a borderline, but I'm on the keep side for now. Toliar (talk) 05:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

How do you derive the deletion codes like G4 or G7, etc? Just curious. Artene50 (talk) 07:31, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

My hat off to you, sir, full marks for promptness and solicitude. From your fellow wikipedian,Nishidani (talk) 10:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you know anything about the Clay Walker song, "I Can't Sleep?" I've put some content and song meaning for the song, but I don't think it's good enough. --Martin4647 (talk) 20:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for taking the time and finding the fix to the table/reflist problem on this page.

Talk:List of Stewards of the Chiltern Hundreds#Page layout

Bazj (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing! Bazj (talk) 20:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Smile at others by adding ((subst:Smile)) to their talk page with a friendly message.

Well like I was suupost to know Jim Collins the singer wrote it. I'm new to writing song articles, and yes I have checked the Wiki guidelines. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 17:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I think I'm pretty sure what piping is, I have done it numerous times, if you've ever seen another article I have created. Anyways, I will be more careful next time. Are you like online 24-7 or something, because everytime I'm here, you're always online, or is this just you're professional job? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 18:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh ok, sorry I know that was a little too personal. I'm still in school so I'm pretty busy with extra curricular activities & stuff, although this was my last day of school for 2008. I have free time, but only like 2 to 3 hours to be online. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 18:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Ten, I just discovered if Ray Joseph Cormier is googled, a link to your user talk comes up. Being ignorant on how search engines work, how could this happen? DoDaCanaDa (talk) 18:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

• I know what piping is in mechanical and plumbing trades and maybe in social activities, but I don't know the context you are using. I am online a lot because I am temporarily unemployed with no money to do anything else.

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 19:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

• Ten, do I understand correctly that outsiders can post links to the Google search engine?

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 19:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

• I didn't do that. That's what I was asking you, how did that get there?

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 19:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

• Forget it.

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 20:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

• I don't get that. Lots of names are mentioned on your talk page. I thought Google was based on the number of hits.

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 21:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

My bad. I left a reply on my talk page. Cheers! --Jaysweet (talk) 21:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your assistance regarding about.com Dbiel ^(Talk) 02:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, TenPoundHammer, welcome to WikiProject Cartoon Network! We are a community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles related to Cartoon Network. Some points that may be helpful: Our main aim is to help improve Cartoon Network-related articles, so if someone asks for help with an article, please try your hardest to help them if you are able. Most important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it. The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, peer review and a project-wide article collaboration, all of which you are welcome to take part in. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. And once again - Welcome! - treelo radda 19:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

On 21 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ashland Town Center, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford ^Pray 05:33, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

The Did you know? hook based on a fact from the article you created or substantially expanded, Ashland Town Center, has been added to the Wikipedia Portal, Portal:Kentucky. Thank you for your contributions in this topic! If you know of another relevant fact from an article that has appeared at Did you know?, then please suggest it at the associated portal talk page.

--Bedford ^Pray 05:33, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, do you have ANY idea what the title of Jimmy Wayne's second studio album will be? --Martin4647 (talk) 15:09, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, once again Twinkle malformed the AFD and we've stepped on each other's toes. One of our AFDs needs to be deleted, and really don't care which one. Thanks! // Chris ^{(complaints)•(contribs)} 12:21, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the mix-up on the Arbelese article. I corrected the AfD template, when in fact I should have DELETED it! That'll teach me not to use the Preview button! -- JediLofty ^User_Talk 12:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

You didn't give me time to complete the review. I was just removing it first. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 23:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Jimmy Wayne confirmed on his MySpace page that his CD would be released August 19, but I still don't know what the title will be. --Martin4647 (talk) 23:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your interest in the Leonore Annenberg article. I've added a considerable amount on her philanthropic and committee work, as well as a bit in the Chief of Protocol and Later life. Do you think it looks better? Happyme22 (talk) 06:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi TenPoundHammer. I've been struggling with an article and am working with Wikipedians to ensure the article is notable, citable, referenced, NPOV and not blatant advertising.

I am in a conflict to report changes that have recently occured on Web Conferencing. The article once listed vendors, it is now replaced by a biased matrix comparison see: Comparison_of_web_conferencing_software. Although the concept is good, the article does not list other major vendors such as GoTo or LiveMeeting (or us), it is written from a PictureTalks perspective and facts are unreferenced. Anyone can create a matrix with their specific features to disclude others. Such bias and COI is not good. In regards to the PictureTalk article, it has unverified references, it reads like "Hey, here's my features". It is confusing for me why my User:GaryECampbell/Sandbox gets hammered so hard, yet other web conferencing providers like PictureTalk, Glance, WebHuddle etc seem to slip though the radar. Perhaps you can determine why this is so and determine the proper course of action. GaryECampbell (talk) 23:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

• The AfD passed. If interested, I created a categorized list of a few hundred references on my talk page that should be helpful when editing the article. GaryECampbell (talk) 07:47, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm always amazed at my ability to mess up Wiki-coding. WikiKingOfMishawaka (talk) 01:56, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

TPH, RE: Warning: I am new here, and I: 1) don't know the proper procedure/verbiage; 2) am not an administrator; 3) don't feel right/comfortable yet doing something like that. Also, did you look at the edits and did I make the right one (s)? Best O Fortuna (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 02:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, I really only removed two sentences in Trivia and the Trivia header. All the rest was duplicated material already in there. I don't know what kind of stuff that guy/girl was drinking, but it looks as though they just copied and pasted the Attractions section from History to the Geography, moved Geography down so it was NOT right next to History, and put back the removed Trivia section. Looks like teenage boredom or something. Best O Fortuna (talk) 02:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

That's cool - wanted feedback to try and help steer it in the right direction. Mrh30 (talk) 11:28, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Although, to be fair, there aren't actually any one-sentance paragraphs that you say there are! Mrh30 (talk) 11:30, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback - I'll get on and start putting it right! Mrh30 (talk) 12:06, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, the new template automatically creates a section on the talk page rather than a subpage. The section on the bath abbey talk page is the last but one section which is why you might have missed it, thanks Tom (talk) 17:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

yes i noticed that, dealth with. i now realise you should only use the page= parameter if the review is on archived page, thanks Tom (talk) 17:24, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I know this is somewhat out of your area of specialty, but could you please have a look at this AFD I started? The article, on an unreleased short film, has several sources, almost all of which are blogs and forum posts based on the cryptic comments of an orchestra member. Unless I'm radically misreading WP:RS, this can't stand. Most of the commentators on the AFD seem to disagree with me, so I could use a sanity check. Thanks! // Chris ^{(complaints)•(contribs)} 22:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Dear TenPoundHammer, thank you for your prompt response. I have now left a message on the page you recommended me to (that is, here: [3]). Kind regards, --BF 19:31, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

check out the discussion, as the article has been rewritten with 24 sources and everyone else has changed their votes to keep.Myheartinchile (talk) 19:43, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Think I've done this wrong. As you're active on AfD atm would you mind checking and pointing out where I went wrong? Cheers Raerth (talk) 21:34, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Cheers. Raerth (talk) 21:42, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks - the link you provided (Wikipedia:Profanity) was exactly what I had been looking for.

Have a great day!

Fish. (talk) 22:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

• Ah well. Eventually I'll make an edit that is justified! Thanks for your advice.

Fish. (talk) 09:49, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I know you are pretty good at getting articles deleted, so I was wondering what you thought about the article Kyle Veazey. I have followed some anon ISPs and their actions and this was a page they created. I just don't think this person is notable. Your thoughts?Atlantabravz (talk) 14:06, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response on that. Great work once again!Atlantabravz (talk) 14:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the recent feedback on the CDS Global page. I have expanded the introduction to take care of the tag you added — I welcome your feedback. Donny Scott (talk) 17:01, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I posted that warning. I just didn't know what to do. Thanks for your help! -- Mr. E. Sánchez ^{Wanna know my story?}/ _{Share yours with me!} 04:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Some time back, you failed this page for the GA nomination. I was wondering if you could copy edit it for me so that it could hopefully pass this time. Thanks for any help with this page that you might potentially provide. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you know anyone who might specialize in those type of things? Kevin Rutherford (talk) 14:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

102nd Intelligence Wing, i've actually created many redirects to the page and the titie of this discussion is one of them. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 15:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

The Military History one has a portal for all branches of the U.S. miitary. Thats as close as I think it might get to being one. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 15:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Can you please send me the articles of bands which you keep deleting? In future if there are things that need to be deleted could you give me the opportunity to put a tag on whilst I change the article before deleting it so hastily. A lot of the bands I have written articles for are undoubtedly more popular then many of the bands already featured on wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Southern records (talk • contribs) 17:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I was just excited after finding the article in such a state and trying to fix it.Leslie Granger (talk) 00:31, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

You are officially my new lifesaver. How can I thank you?! -- Mr. E. Sánchez ^{Wanna know my story?}/ _{Share yours with me!} 01:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

You're right. I can see how that would suck. I will now. Thanks! -- Mr. E. Sánchez ^{Wanna know my story?}/ _{Share yours with me!} 01:41, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

What does the A1 deletion code mean Bobby? You used it on an article recently and it was speedily deleted. Does it mean 'no context'? Regards, Artene50 (talk) 06:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if you saw my note regarding the expanded introduction on the CDS Global page. Does the new version address your "length of introduction" concern sufficiently? If so, could you remove the tag you placed on the page? Again, thank you for your feedback—this rookie Wikipedian appreciates your commitment to the community! Donny Scott (talk) 18:23, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Im trying to review Ringeriksbanen. How am i not doing it right. Im not purposefully messing it up if i have did something wrong.

Canadakid2 (talk) 00:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I created the question on a subpage on purpose. I don't know why you felt the need to move it to my talk page without asking me first. I guess I'm not permitted the option to have a question dissappear when I get the answer? Had I known that, I might not have asked. --Smiller933 (talk) 12:54, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

You make it sound like user subpages are a limited resource that need to be conserved. If that is indeed the case, then I was mistaken. Also I wasn't aware of any way for an ordinary user to remove information from their own talk page history, but if you know of a special trick to do that, let me know. --Smiller933 (talk) 13:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not the clueless newbie you must think I am (or are pretending to think I am). If I had wanted either of those things, I would've done them. Apparently in the Wikipedia universe, there's no way to discretely consult an expert on a delicate question; it apparently has to be done in public with maximal exposure. Thanks for setting me straight on this. --Smiller933 (talk) 14:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I used ((db-i3)) on Image:Desktop bsd screenshot.png, because DesktopBSD logos and artwork collection are licensed Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 2.0 License. Austria. Ref: http://desktopbsd.net/index.php?id=76 According to policy for non-free content and CSD I3, all images, including DesktopBSD screenshots with DesktopBSD logos or/and artwork will be deleted immediately. Thanks Shooke (talk) 16:39, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok, also thank for you --Shooke (talk) 16:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I was the one to protect it beforehand. Generally indef protection is reserved for articles that have a protect-log the size of an arm. Protection should increase in stages really, even though protection isn't doing much at this time. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 21:40, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Hammer, Juni Fisher here. I set up a Wikipedia Page, but had no idea how to do all the proper things to make it look the way I know you folks want it to look. I just now ran across the discussion, and see that my artical has been "saved from deletion" and I would like to know how to make sure there is no doubt about the validity and gravity of my awards and popularity in my specific genre. Hey, I'm a full time touring Western and Folk Singer who did not grow up in the computer age....heck we did not have answering machines till I was in college, and those required a cassette tape to operate....so I'm learning this.

Because there is no Grammy category for Western Music, we are delegated to Folk or Country categories when it comes to BIG awards, and without funding from record labels, those nominations and votes just don't throw themselves at folks like myself, Ian Tyson, Don Edwards, Sons of the San Joaquin, RW Hampton, Wylie and the Wild West, and others.....but I assure you, there is a small nation of os Western troubadours our there, touring successfully, winning awards, and making ourselves known.

Thanks for what you do: I appreciate your concerns and dedication, and will do what you need me to do to keep my listing. Juni Fisher juni@junifisher.netJunitunes (talk) 16:04, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

My source for the time signatures in the song Schism is the wikipedia article on the song. Mind if I cite that? Want me to send you an mp3 of the song and you can see for yourself that yes it does indeed change time signatures 47 times? NIRVANA2764 (talk) 22:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

So the only way that the list can have the song Schism listed is if someone put down in print somewhere that it has the aforementioned time signature changes. Seems a bit nitpicky to me. Why doesn't this rule apply to every article? I could give you links to around one or two million articles that could benefit from having every claim cite a source. NIRVANA2764 (talk) 23:12, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Twinkle burped on an AfD today too...I've been having trouble with my connection, I wonder if it's dropping out mid submit, but coming back in time to make me think it's good to go...grrr....thanks for cleaning up after me :) LegoTech·(t)·(c) 23:45, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Not that it really matters, since it would have likely been the end result anyhow and it is a good use of WP:IAR, but per WP:HOAX, potential hoaxes are usually not speedy deletion candidates. Cheers, CP 23:51, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I guess the worry is that what may seem like a hoax to one or two editors may not be a hoax, just poor searching, or even an inability to disprove the hoax (for example, maybe there are plenty of sources for Mr. X in Russian, but no one speaks Russian, so it seems like a hoax to us). In this case, I actually am not entirely sure it was a hoax... I got the feeling that it may have been someone's non-notable grandfather or something, which, although it would have been deleted in the end, isn't quite blatant misinformation. In any case, I'm happy with the result, certainly a good use of WP:IAR. Cheers, CP 00:08, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

As you are a nice Wikipedian, I just wanted to wish you a happy Independence Day! And if you are not an American, then have a happy day and a wonderful weekend anyway!  :) Your friend and colleague, --Happy Independence Day! Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 03:42, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I've posed this at the AfD, but I thought I'd get your attention before you scroll through your watch list. The article as it stands is crap, agreed, but "Custodian of the Holy Land" appears to be an office in the Catholic Church with a good possibility of notability. Mind if I start a rewrite?--Fabrictramp | talk to me 19:52, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, nice to talk to you again, I need help from you. I want to completley remodel the Lynn Anderson page. I did it once before, back in March before, but an unknown user reverted back to what they orginally wrote. This user, I happen to know because I have argued with him. He happens to think he owns the Lynn Anderson page, and writes so much praise of Anderson. For example, look at these two separate sentences taken from the very top of the page, "During the 1970s, when Hollywood needed a country act for variety shows, benefits, talk shows and even television dramas, Anderson was usually the choice." and the other: "She served as an ambassador for country music, broadening its appeal and taking it to new levels." Yes, this is the kind of things he writes. He thinks he owns the page because he is Lynn Anderson's official fan club president, I'm not even kidding. I really want to make her article look a real encyclopedia article, not some biography that looks like it's from a fansite of Anderson. It only has 3 references, that's all he wants, I once had 13, but he of course reverted it. I'm afraid to tell him this, could you maybe, I know you're more experienced in terms of how Wikipedia articles should be. I don't think he's edited her page for awhile, but he might check it a lot, I don't know. Please let me know when you get this message if you can do this. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, thank you so much. I need to add more references & simplify them, because it must be perfected, thank you so much for your help. I do fear that he will be back to do his reverting to make Ms. Anderson's article a fansite again, but when or even if that lovely day comes again I will be back, so we can tell him how to write a real article, if you know what I mean. Thank you very very very much! Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh no not at all, it was perfectly fine where you reverted Lynn's page. I completley agree, a very bold revert by far. I probably will re-work her page some more, and add better references within the upcoming week with better information also. That "Rose Garden" fan will help hopefully keep away from her page, next time he comes around, maybe you can scare him off from making such terrible/awful/disgraceful revisions to Lynn's article. I'm so angry at him, you think you know someone, you know? Well anyways, I will be perfecting Lynn's page this week, maybe someone could add one of those free images sometime. I'm sorry, I'm totally thinking out loud, but as I said, great job, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:51, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh wow, good for you with the Diamond Rio article and all, it looks really good, who cares, if it's pathetic, you're just one person, it's hard out there on your own. I think my proudest acheivement has to be Trisha Yearwood's article, 99.9% of the writing there was done by yours truly. Before me, it looked just awful, had no basic article at all, then I made a discography, added references (there's only 12 refs, but it's hard for me to find good ones for Trisha, hope to add more). I mean her article is not all an Alison Krauss FA or a Natalie Maines GA, but I think it's pretty good. I saw Trisha in concert and was blown away, so I decided to make a great encyclopedia article in her honor. I can't believe Country music only has the 2 GAs & 1 FA, it shocks me. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 03:12, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Are you joking, it's dead, I didn't know that, it was such a great idea! How did the project just go flat-out dead? I didn't know that, I was going to nominate the badly-made Patsy Cline article as the WikiProject for Country. That's just awful! Dottiewest1fan (talk) 03:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

It's just us!! I'm astounded! I guess we are the "Country Fab 5," the only ones who can help the Country singers articles. I'm always helping them, including the classic singers, like Glen Campbell, I made a new singles table, and a discography page with an albums table will come shortley, but I try to help other current Country singers. Nobody's involved and if they are they're making messes of the place. Have you heard of the sockpuppetry case by user GiveItAway93. He's not only ruining himself but articles also. People like him and the Lynn Anderson's #1 fan need to understand what they are doing!!!!! I still can't believe we're the only ones, I'm in shock. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 03:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

You marked the intro as too short. I've lengthened it a bit to summarise his role. Is it long enough now? It's now about the same length as the intro in many other biographies. --Mia-etol (talk) 06:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

The AfD template is messed up, seems to think you might be an unregistered user. Beeblbrox (talk) 21:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

I would have liked some comments of my citation of sources for the Articles for deletion/Tiny Rascal Gang

The references seem to meet basic notablity standards...

"This page in a nutshell: If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be notable." (WP:NOTE)

To me that suggests that the first deletion was in error, or at least the article has potential to be not delete worthy. It'd be easier for me to not have to start with a blank slate. It shouldn't have just been speedy deleted after I posted evidence of notability. I would have liked to have time to work on it a bit... Would you consider reversing the speedy deletion?--Samuel J. Howard (talk) 00:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I know, can't get it to delete without a repeated Foundation error. Gotten it at least 20 times in the last few minutes. Wikipedia is in pest mode_{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 03:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I was referred to you by User:Risker as a good person to ask about DYK. I created Woodstock Film Festival today, and I was wondering if you could take a look at it, and see if there are any potential DYK nuggets that might work? S. Dean Jameson 03:40, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

• Here's the thing: I don't have clue 1 where to begin nominating a fact from the article for DYK. I see things on the mainpage, but how do they get there? How do you choose which things are worthy of it? S. Dean Jameson 21:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the props! :) Pinkadelica 00:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I've re-opened the AfD upon user request. Just thought I'd let you know. If your going to reply, reply here. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 12:06, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Please contact via email

Re. Lynn Anderson article.

Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikiesmonkey (talk • contribs) 21:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

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I told you he would be back. Talk to administrators immediatley!!! Dottiewest1fan (talk) 22:22, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm so scared of him, and I don't how to file a report, nothing like this has ever been that bad for me to talk to an administrator. I won't be online again until about 9:00 or sor cuz I'm going out to the movies with friends, I'm sorry if this is causing any inconvience to you. Although Lynn Anderson's #1 fan thinks I don't have a life or somthing like that, well anyways, talk to ya then. I be back at 9:00 or so, don't worry! Dottiewest1fan (talk) 22:44, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Let me know how and where I can find an administrator. Thanks Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:11, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok I will start that discussion tomorrow afternoon & get their attention. Thank you so much. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:50, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I wrote on the administrators board, where you said to go. They told me, they'll watchlist it, and I think they said they will notify the editor too, we'll see what happens. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 20:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I've added it to the review. If you've anything else to add, please feel free to point it out. It's hugely appreciated. Peanut4 (talk) 23:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not overly bothered by the deletion this time, but I do seem to recall that the article dealt with a special type of plastic foam, not some obscure music act. knoodelhed (talk) 08:15, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

This was posted to J Milburn talk toady with one subsequent post.

Good Day J! I've been accused at times of wearing my emotions on my sleeve and yesterday I showed that by changing this section header as a tangible display. I went to bed happy, pleased that after such a long discussion started by the images being removed, we, personally, had passed a threshold as it were. I still believe that, so you can imagine my surprise and disappointment to wake up and find the images deleted, not by you. When I went to bed the dispute over the image "Second police warning for God's emissary" was ended with a Keep consensus and a different tag noting this. That is gone as well which I don't understand. I had assured you the FUR tag was only a temporary measure. This dispute within Wikipedia required my immediate focus. If the article was in the top 100 list, I am confident there would have been a consensus to keep both images. This was more difficult with such a smaller number of users involved in the discussion. My optimism was restored when Kingturtle listed the article in the RFCbio list. Nothing! I have been pleading for someone to restore the information about the 1981 trip to Whitehorse, Yukon with the verification newspaper references removed from the article. Nothing! I am seriously considering abandoning Wikipedia to the neutral netherworld as not being worth my time and effort. DoDaCanaDa (talk) 12:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Go for it. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 15:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought I was having trouble clearing my cache or something.

Note that you !voted before I added an article to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Record of Val-Kyrie as a bundle nomination. Not that I think it will affect your decision, but you just should be aware that you didn't see the full nomination. Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 20:52, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks: I thought there was some such speedy, but I had hit the xfd button instead of the csd one, and so took it from there. Kevin McE (talk) 21:18, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

This is 69.136.96.119. Please leave my edits on Wal-Mart restaurants alone. I know there was indeed such a thing as a Café Wal-Mart-- there was one at the Wal-Mart at 605 Conchester Highway in Boothwyn, PA-- I know because I have eaten there. I can name several Radio Grill locations which have closed as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.136.96.119 (talk) 23:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Why isn't the video good enough? I tried to upload a picture of the logo on and I can't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.88.17 (talk) 01:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey, man. You might want to check out WP:ANI; someone brought up your close of this there. I took a look and figure the merge/redir finding is okay, but it would probably have been better to let the AFD run longer than it did, to allow for some more comments to come in. Just a thought. Tony Fox (arf!) 05:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I have this sneaking feeling that your hasty closure of this AFD is going to bite you back at your next RFA. I do not know why you have this seemingly strong urge to purge wikipedia of content but exercising some patience would be a good idea. The world would not end if you had let the AFD run its natural course. --Bardin (talk) 11:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I certainly hope not. It was duplication of information that was unnecessary, and though it was a little fast, it was still, IMO, the right decision. Tony Fox (arf!) 16:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I really think it is senseless to delete an album page for a forthcoming release that will be in the stores in about six weeks. We are not talking about an artist that is using Wikipedia for publicity, as Patty Loveless is a notible artist with a major album about to be released.

The fact is that I've already copied the text of the page to a text file and if it's deleted, I'll simply re-author the page as soon as it's released.

By the way, as you pointed out earlier.. these articles belong to Wikipedia, not the person that created the page. I was about to create the page myself, but by the time I had researched the album tracks on allmusic.com, the page was already created. I simply added my research to it...

What's the point of this exercise anyway? This is why I think your recommending that this album be deleted from Wikipedia is pointless. You should use your editing responsiblities where it's needed... Bwmoll3 (talk) 17:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

All you have to do is look on the Saguaro Roads Records website, the label that is releasing the new album. http://www.saguaroroad.com/blog/?page_id=156

Bwmoll3 (talk) 17:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

One would think that other sources would get their information from the label that is releasing the album. Again, pointless Bwmoll3 (talk) 17:55, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

It's pointless trying to discuss anything with you once you have your mind made up. The fact is that if you have a primary source of information (in this case, the record label which is releasing the materiel to the public), which lists the content of the album, as well as the date of release and other information from their publicity department, then WHY is it NECESSARY to have secondary sources of information which simply parrot the SAME INFORMATION from the primary source?

Do you think the record label is fabricating this entire episode ? Bwmoll3 (talk) 18:23, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Again, the fact is that you are going to do what you are going to do no matter what. Quite simply, secondary sources published after the album is released are simply going to provide more information (as you pointed out), but the same information which is there now is going to be there. . So deleting the page simply causes extra work to recreate what is already there.. and upsets people for no good reason. Bwmoll3 (talk) 18:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh by the way, Loveless lists the information on her own official website.. http://www.pattyloveless.com/index.php?em511=181871_-1__0_~0_-1_7_2008_0_0&content=news

But then, that's probably not good enough for you either... Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

The nominator for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Oxfam Glamour Models has withdrawn the nomination as reliable sources have been found. Since you supported deletion due to lack of reliable sources, do you concur? Cheers. -- Whpq (talk) 18:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Maybe - it is a bit promotional yes, but it could probably be salvaged with some work. --Hut 8.5 19:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

By that I mean "it could be rewritten fairly easily to remove the promotion". I know there aren't any sources, but it can't be speedy deleted for that. I won't object if anyone deletes it. Hut 8.5 19:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Please do not delete the lists of former store locations. I can verify many of them myself. Kennedy & Co., 11:23 AM, July 18, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennedy & Co. (talk • contribs) 15:23, 18 July 2008 (UTC) I know of many sources I could provide to prove the existence of these stores. Kennedy & Co., 8:30 PM, July 18, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennedy & Co. (talk • contribs) 00:32, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

The MFD page you nominated Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)/Archive 74 seems to have been fixed so, that it is no longer "spammed" with db-g2 templates. It seems that as I said on the page for the mfd itself that it was due to someone placing a tag on a template that the page used. Vivio Testarossa^{Talk Who} 21:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Really? How? Mr. E. Sánchez ^{Wanna know my story?}/ _{Share yours with me!} 23:28, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Once again, saving Wiki-lifes! Thank you!! Mr. E. Sánchez ^{Wanna know my story?}/ _{Share yours with me!} 23:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

See this Cannibaloki 23:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! But you can not delete the page of old article? Cannibaloki 00:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for help. Regards, Cannibaloki 00:12, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Since I didn't get other suggestions to judge by on #wikipedia, I decided to use WP:WEB. Nearly every USENET group will get thousands of Google hits from archiving sites, so it's going to be hard to use any kind of Google test to find a third-party needle in a haystack of mirrors. A lot of the existing articles use Google Groups as a reference, when all that is is Google's newsfeed in a web form. I don't want to declare a war on USENET articles, but in the absence of another standard, they almost all fail WP:WEB. Any other ideas? DarkAudit (talk) 00:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to revert your removal of the defunct Montgomery Ward stores from the Montgomery Ward . I know that due to the unverifiable nature of the list it qualifies for deletion. But in the interests of preserving urban history it just "feels" like they should stay. I'm not totally sold on it, I'd be more pushy if they had GPS coordinates or something. I'm interested in your opinion. Eli lilly (talk) 01:08, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. I don't know how people become administrators or how their responsibilities work or what they're forbidden from doing. I'd probably do OK at it, and I see that it doesn't prevent a person from being able to speak his/her mind. I've come a long way in a little more than a year-- I used to be more of an inclusionist, but once I understood the guidelines, more importantly, I understood why they're there. You've been an admin for quite awhile; how does a person go about volunteering for that? In any event, thanks for the compliment. Mandsford (talk) 02:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

But I was pretty sure I'd seen you close a debate a time or two with "The result was delete" or "The result was keep". My only reluctance about being an administrator is that it wouldn't be much fun if I couldn't make a sarcastic remark now and then. I don't know about you, but I love it when someone tries to pick a fight, and (sometimes) I can let 'em have it. Hoaxters are my favorite, especially when they come back with "It's really really true", like the one about Flip Fairbanks, the six-toed explorer. I kind of feel like if you become an admin, you have to give up your sense of humor. I love AfD in general, though-- it's a great way to perfect the witty comeback, and there are so many articles that I would never get to see if they weren't nominated. Mandsford (talk) 02:47, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

You can type more quickly than I can! I didn't know that we had the right to close a discussion, since it's the last word. I mean, can you imagine if Le Roi de Citrouelles closed out a debate? Don't get me wrong, I like Roi, nice guy, but I can see it now... "There were 25 arguments for deletion, an 2 for a keep. No consensus, default to keep... Happy editing!". Anyway, I'm too wishy-washy to do the administrative tasks like banning people. I've never nominated an article for deletion, though I don't mind seconding the motion. Mandsford (talk) 03:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Uncle Monk redirect it is for Claudia. Raymie Humbert (TrackerTV) (receiver, archives) 05:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

TPH, you probably want to try again to become an admin. Please consider if some of your recent nominations and !votes at afD will really help you there--I am thinking of ones such as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Overspending DGG (talk) 18:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I have split this article off into it's own discussion, since it appears to have a history and notability separate from the USENET group. DarkAudit (talk) 23:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

That was the day of my entry into the World Of WIki. And you were the first to greet me. A belated Thanks. I find it quite funny how Wikiworld is huge yet it is small. I am in the early stages of an edit war with an editor I believe you have had experience with...Otterathome. Some background: Uncyclopedia came up as a Random article. It was interesting and I was in a funny mood so I responded to an editors request about the article's "shortness" with a humorous entry...rather than short I suggested "scrimpy"...But, his point was well taken and I made a SERIOUS addition to the lead. The rest is self-explanitory at the article Uncyclopedia and at the Talk page. Can you go there and tell me what you think? I believe my point is valid and OtteratHome is himself a troll and a baiter. I thought the CABAL insert would lighten the mood. (Afterall, it is an article about a humorous satirical witty site.) Thanks for your time.--Buster7 (talk) 04:24, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Ten Pound Hammer and otters,

I noticed you moved the "Bring It On Home (Little Big Town song)" article to "Bring It on Home (Little Big Town song)". I just want to inform you that not capitalizing "On" in this example is actually incorrect, as "On" is not being used as a preposition. In this example, "On" is an adverb modifying the verb "Bring". The "On Home" portion of the song isn't being used as a prepositional phrase (it would be if the phrase were something like, say, "Bring It into a Home"). Sorry for being nitpicky, but it can be overwhelming renaming to same articles for the same reasons.

Thanks, Xnux the Echidna 03:46, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

(otters for president)

Would you take a look at the merge job I did on this album after its singles were deleted? I keep getting editors completely deleting the singles section back out, and I'm interested in an assessment.
Kww (talk) 14:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I can't figure out a fix for the Amazon link. It doesn't overlap the infobox on my display, so I'm a bit surprised it does on yours. The problem is that Amazon embedded katakana into the URL, and mixed it with ASCII punctuation. When I cut and paste it out of Firefox, Firefox escapes the URL, and that's what get's put into Wikipedia. When I manually type it out in katakana, Wikipedia's URL parser pukes at the first shift to ASCII, and doesn't link to the proper spot.
Kww (talk) 02:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

On 22 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mike Karakas, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for nominating, --PeterSymonds (talk) 19:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I recreated the article if you don't mind. The Methuen Mall only has a small section for it with little detail. This article, I felt, goes into more detail and is more interesting and informative. I mean, this is an encyclopedia, right? ;) StarfoxRoy 02:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm glad you didn't delete it. You/I can keep the major anchors listed like other mall article do. I'll try to help improve it, too. I never said i was done creating it. I'll change it in little 'snippets' as I say it. StarfoxRoy 03:17, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Since when are you a 10 lb. farfel? Your sig gave me a smile. So here's one back. :-) Risker (talk) 04:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. What do I do if that commons doesn't have the pic I'm looking for. Or is this image allowed to be used in an infobox:

It says on the page:

((Non-free film screenshot)) I don't really get what it means. My question is: Can this image be used in an infobox and not just in a thumbnail (Judge Alex)? Thanks again for your help. If possible please write me back on my talk page. Thanks and Happy Editing Tm93 (TALK) 02:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you for your help. I don't know why someone removed the picture on this talk page though. I was only asking for someone to help me. I wasn't try to use a non-free image. O well, at least you still understood what I meant. Thank you very much. A little something for you:

		The Guidance Barnstar
		Thank you once again for helping me out. Tm93 TALK

If possible please write me back on my talk page. Thanks and Happy Editing Tm93 (TALK) 01:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing up the WP:WikiOtter page! I was just checking over my history of unfinished business and found that not only did you deal with what I couldn't fix, but you did it the SAME DAY! Kudos! Rosuav (talk) 18:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

• facepalm* Thanks for catching that. Wizardman 22:33, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Greetings, TenPoundHammer. I was surprised to see your comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Cavlan that you couldn't "see multiple reliable publications", as a quick Google News search revealed several instances of non-trivial coverage in reliable sources, which I have added to the article. Would you mind explaining your comment? Thanks in advance, Skomorokh 23:40, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate all of your help. Slowly I'm learning my way around Wikipedia!Aloha67 (talk) 01:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I double checked Google and only two are worth anything (three are Wikipedia & mirrors one is a MySpace profile, and the other a comment on Canadian Geographic). You can see my comment in the log for more. Cheers. Cavenba (talk • contribs) 01:45, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Could you revisit this one? Tim Vickers (talk) 02:19, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

• • Hammer, I have to revisit bowel management first, but I'll just be a few minutes. Mandsford (talk) 19:19, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi TPH. Don't be surprised if a certain someone removes the speedy deletion notice from that article. This same person has been sprinkling in massive amounts of original research, synthesized research, and unsourced material to various hip hop related articles. JBsupreme (talk) 20:42, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

• Figured I better follow up here - I'm sure JB isn't referring to me, but in case there's any question, my removal of the tag is entirely good faith. That's actually the first time I've ever removed a CSD tag. Drop a note on my Talk if any concerns; all the best. Townlake (talk) 02:53, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, can you briefly explain what that means? I guess I'm not old enough on wikipedia to do so lol. Dengero (talk) 02:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Per your request, this IP's talk page is redlinked. Give Twinkle a good rough smack for me, will you? Best, UltraExactZZ ^Claims ~ Evidence 19:59, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I've seen that micro-issue before on others' AfDs, I just didn't wanna step on your toes by cleaning up anything outside the process you go through when using Twinkle. No worries, and thanks for the note. Townlake (talk) 22:10, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Pardon the intrusion but I note that you commented on the AfD discussion for Daphne Civic Center. I have subsequently expanded this article and provided a number of references to reliable third-party sources. I humbly request that you give this article a second look and see if this is sufficient to change your !vote on this matter. Thank you for your time and consideration. - Dravecky (talk) 00:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I would like to express my dissapointment concerning the system on which the english wikipedia's function seems to be based on. Countless political points with no or irrelevant references are kept, as well as articles that based on the conventionts the wikipedia community has made itself should not exist.

And in order to prove my point,

1) As clearly stated at MOSMAC "In articles dealing with the predominant ethnic group of the Republic of Macedonia Use "Macedonians" (only if the meaning is unquestionably clear) or "ethnic Macedonians", " In articles where there is a need to distinguish the aforementioned ethnic group from the other ethnic groups inhabiting Macedonia Use "Macedonian Slavs" or "Slavic Macedonians" to distinguish them from the other ethnic groups in the region" The latter has been frequently been violated at articles or section concerning these "Macedonian Slavs", a term which is insistently avoided and replaced with "Macedonian" contrary to the convention made. 2) At the same page, the wikipedia community made another convention stating:

"Deprecated names (province) The following name is deprecated:

The name Aegean Macedonia should be avoided for general use, except in articles describing the irredentist concept. Note that Aegean Macedonia can be considered offensive for some Greeks, but the Greek government has not raised issue." Nevertheless, an article "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegean_Macedonians Aegean Macedonians", not to mention the propagandistic statements with no references, saying horrible things about the greek nation's behaviour towards these group of people. And although the page had been nominated for deletion, it still exists. And on top of that, I am informed I donnot have the right to re-nominate this monstrosity so soon for debate.

3) I also disagree with the concept of some conventions themselves, such as the right for this nation to use the term Macedonians to identify themselves, but for the greek people to try to avoid the use of plain Macedonians to identify themselves, but need to add Greek next to Macedonia. Talking about neutrality..

4) The concept of the conventions indicates that for internal reasons, each side may use the terms it recognizes, as well the internationally accepted terms used when refferring to the UN and the organizations, in respect to their onomatology. And although at FYROM related articles, the internally accepted terms are used freely, the Greece related topics are invaded with propagandistic maps of uncertain quality, using terms as Aegean Macedonians, Rep. of Macedonia, as well as balling up Arvanites and their language with the Albanian immigrants. All these points confuse the reader, who cannot distinguish what macedonia really means. It's like a ball of confusion. Not to mention the maps indicating pieces of modern greece as slavomacedonian terriroties. And if someone dares to express his/her troubling about the, as stated by the wikipedia itself, offensive terms "Aegean" or whatever they may come up with, the response is of Points of Discussion such unutterable level: "This is the section where major points of the Article should be discussed. Please put your objections here so that they can be adressed.P m kocovski (talk) 11:19, 12 May 2008 (UTC)-Point 1- Article name Aegean Macedonians or Ethnic Macedonians in Greece. I believe some users have expressed concern that Aegean Macedonians may be ambiguous. That is a legitimate point and should be discussed. NB: crap about being offended or about irredentism is not worth taking note of. BalkanFever 11:34, 12 May 2008 (UTC)" - "Please watch your language. Are you not civilized?--Dimorsitanos (talk) 17:22, 26 July 2008 (UTC)" - "Your comments- Please note that comments like this are not tolerated. If you do it again, you may very well be blocked. BalkanFever 02:14, 27 July 2008 (UTC)"

I hope the wikipedia community can give some conviencing response to my worries and prove me wrong.--Dimorsitanos (talk) 04:58, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

((helpme)) I am trying to fix the sorting issue of the release date column at User:Wiki131wiki/List of Wii games (North America).

• Could you be more specific? Leave me a message on my talk page (click "otter chirps" in my signature. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!)} 17:20, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
• When I try to sort the "Release Date" column at User:Wiki131wiki/List of Wii games (North America), it does not sort. Do you know what is causing it? Wiki131wiki (talk) 17:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
• It was sorting previously in an old revision. I think the code might be incorrect. Wiki131wiki (talk) 02:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'd like to respectfully suggest that your wording on AfD noms could sometimes use a bit of improvement. I know you are planning on going for admin, and though we sit on different sides of the inclusionist/deletionist debate, I think you'd likely do a good job. But being abrasive on these (and perhaps wrong on this one) isn't the best way to go. It doesn't help and only annoys others (in this case not me as I knew nothing about Cowznofski until this AfD). Please don't take this a preachy or as ill-intended. I'm honestly trying to help. Good luck! Hobit (talk) 02:35, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Radda Chowder, you have new messages at Treelo's talk page. Bring the otters too, it's not about clams but it's interesting anyway. You still don't have the right to split conversations so no funny business.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing all this crummy code I dumped on your talkpage just to get a custom ((talkback)) template. treelo _radda 17:50, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah, as an update for me, why has your siggie reverted back to its' Chowderless form? Still reference it on your userpage as if it was some form of permanent or at least a long-standing thing so.... what? X gets the center square (who today is Paul Lynde), your turn. treelo _radda 22:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

*bump, as far as bumps will get you here* treelo _radda 19:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I endorse your closure, although it sure as hell was bold. I don't agree with "closed now before it spirals even more out of control" - I see no indication it WAS out of control - but that's neither here nor there. Good close. Tan ǀ 39 05:55, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree with respect to the outcome, but under no circumstances should an editor, admin or not, close an AfD in which they themselves have expressed an opinion. Next time, I think it would be more judicious to let someone else close it.  Sandstein  22:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I also agree with the outcome and think reopening the AfD would be unnecessary process wonkery. There were deletes with rationale, so SNOW is a little questionable, and closing as an involved editor is very questionable. These concerns have been brought to your attention in the past: Q9 at your most recent RfA. 160.83.72.211 (talk) 21:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Please keep an eye open for media coverage of the country band Whitaker Malloy. An article on the band was deleted as a result of the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Whitaker Malloy, but perhaps there will be further media coverage or an album will be released, and at that point you may be able to use the deleted article as a starting point for a new article. --Eastmain (talk) 16:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

question.... when you do deletion sorting so quickly, do you do it via script or manally? Have heard of a secript but don't know it. Thanks! TravellingCari 01:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

thanks. I think I found my problem with my monobook. Problem was I couldn't find the source to finish the installation. As always, THANKS! TravellingCari 01:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

and it worked, woohoo. I just listed an AfD where it needed to be sorted twice and I realised I'd installed this, or tried, then forgotten. TravellingCari 01:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, as a veteran editor I wish your comments on the talk page for History of Plaid Cymru, and Plaid Cymru pages, as editor DrFrench is attempting to delete images without first posting any warning, images that we have understood to be properly sourced. Your assistance is very much requested. I fear DrFrench's motives may be political in nature, and do not want this to escalate out of hand. If the images are indeed worth deleting, then I wont stand in the way. But the sneaky way in which it has been done... usually I see warning boxes beforehand... leads me to be suspect.♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 12:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I made some comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Louisiana Airways arguing in favor of keeping the article. --Eastmain (talk) 16:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

"All the sources you're turning up for Barry Liebmann are primary sources (from Mad themselves) or otherwise pretty much unreliable (toon zone)."

• Aren't primary sources what's wanted? Especially since we're trying to establish the guy's work for Mad Magazine? Carlo (talk) 18:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with the AfD with Tech Coast. I was fumbling around...haven't done this in a very long time. --Fcsuper (talk) 23:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Good collaborating with you on the article. Just out of curiosity, though, what is the basis of your opposition to specifying in the Lead that DC Comics is the current owner of the magazine? Wouldn't this be a relevant indicator to the reader that it has passed hands since it was first published? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 21:34, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, and for the cute in-joke. (Folding it in? LOL.) I actually went through the article last week fact-tagging lots of stuff, and I think you're doing a pretty good job removing unsourced stuff. Nightscream (talk) 22:37, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

10lb, where shall we put the info? Pepso2 (talk) 17:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Locations of Mad offices. Pepso2 (talk) 17:44, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Pepso2 (talk) 17:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Re Mad contrib template: There are many contributors to Mad, so it does give pause. Is there a length limit to such templates? Pepso2 (talk) 23:44, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_L._Olson

AFD per WP:NOTMEMORIAL

The guy died trying to do the best job he could as a soldier. I don't want to smear him. But isn't this article more suited to find a grave.com rather than the Wikipedia encyclopedia?

What do you think? I am not sure. Chergles (talk) 17:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, i had no clue what i was doing. :D I was attempting to figure it out but the missus interupted me and made me eat. Cheers again. The-jagged-one (talk) 18:44, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edit to Archie Comics Publications, Inc. was incorrect. Archie Comics is one of its subsidiaries.--Oldsunnygirl (Talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Please take note that Category:Date of birth missing (living people) should be placed in talk page. The use of Category:Year of birth missing (living people) is recommended. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

All the sources I found mentioned that he was a writer at MAD. They didn't go into great detail but only provided that he was a writer for MAD. Without spending too much time again here are a few links. I still think it will be hard to expand the article, so I am on the fence. Thanks! --Porqin (talk) 00:47, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, Okay. You provoked me to get a published book referencing him. Thanks! --Porqin (talk) 01:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

As I wrote, I'm not certain whether the original contributor was just amazingly sloppy -- or writing a hoax. Hence I posted it for a second opinion. Thanks for your input. -- llywrch (talk) 01:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

"Strong delete No assertation of notability. Book doesn't have an article and isn't even finished yet. When the only links are to DeviantArt, you know you're in trouble. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!) 03:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)"

What kind of comment is this? "You know you're in trouble"-- Like Doctorfluffy, you're a troll with an "admin" privilege.

My article has been in the works. But I can't even finish it because you and your HATER FRIENDS are going to delete it no matter what I do.

And you're a satanist, displaying a satanic symbol (baphomet/pentagram) on your page. "Iron star" indeed!

Mean people like you SUCK!!! (You'll probably ban me for saying that, but there's nothing I can do to save my artcile because of your, and your friends BIASED opinions!

HATER!!!

Witaku (talk) 01:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

You say I should calm down, but when I read the attacks against this article by you and all your buddies, I knew I didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of saving it.

What am I supposed to do? Get TIME MAGAZINE to feature it?

Your page on notable sources is too wordy and a lot of blah, blah, blah! very vague!

Let's have it in a nutshell already!

also, who are you people (HONESTLY) to say whether or not this will have any "future notability"? Maybe it will and maybe it won't. Is that appropriate?

Witaku (talk) 01:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Message to Witaku: Chill, baby. That kind of verbiage is going to get you in trouble. Ecoleetage (talk) 03:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

You closed it even as I was typing my "Delete" rationale. I hate it when that happens. Exactly how soon, to the day, in your judgement, is it ok to nominate it for deletion? It seems like some want to bend over backwards to extend notability to someone like Schlafly, exactly because he edits an online encyclopedia which stands in opposition to Wikipedia. I really cannot find anything about him that would create notability for someone who was not the editor of Conservapedia. Having extreme views does not create notability. I wish the AFD had been allowed to run its course. Edison (talk) 19:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I would much rather appeal your speed closure at the moment then take this to deletion review, where can I appeal your decision first? Tmtoulouse (talk) 19:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Heads up - WP:AN thread. Tan ǀ 39 20:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I think that merger is a fine solution to the problem of having a standalone article with insufficient reliable and independent sources with substantial coverage to satisfy notability or WP:BIO. His role as editor/creator of Conservapedia can be covered in that article. Edison (talk) 01:37, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

NonvocalScream (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding ((subst:Smile)) to their talk page with a friendly message.

NonvocalScream (talk) 05:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I have nominated your redirect Wikipedia:HELPTPH → User:TenPoundHammer/Country for discussion. You can offer your input at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 August 2. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 16:36, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I noticed your signature would have been over the 255 character limit had you only changed the piped link. Did you just remove the <small> </small> tags around "and his otters" to fit it in? − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 17:00, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I noticed tags placed on the Al Jaffee article - which I have addressed. And then several alterations and tags placed by you on articles related to MAD that at first glance seems to me like WP:IDON'TLIKEIT which verges on harassment. Please be careful. Modernist (talk) 18:30, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

There are a little too many tags...and what was this redirect all about [4]? Modernist (talk) 18:37, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

OK lets just stay cool and do our best...Modernist (talk) 18:45, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I've replied on the AFD page. Dalejenkins | 22:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like indiscriminant info to me. It also doesn't go with the discography project style guide. Based on what I've seen, as I've just looked over, I think that chart history of albums and singles is supposed to be on a national level, not regional. I was also looking over the article a little and I think I saw a section that contains "semi-official" material. The hell's semi-official? Since I'm guessing that it's not strictly official, that sort of material should probably go as well.Odin's Beard (talk) 22:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

well it was the worst of the ones i saw, and i thought i'd see if anyone would agree with me that it was a nn, in the case someone saw multiple afds a bad faith noms. Ideally i would like to see them merged into a Sue Grafton alphabet series article since they are essentially identical, but i thought dravceky would veto that down very fast and stop if from happening, and i don't want any wp:own issues. what do you think? as for ricochet, like most of the alphabet series articles it has sources but i think they only establish verifiability not notability, i think all of them together may be notable however.^MY♥_INchile 00:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

ahh... best seller list eh? didn't know that man.^MY♥_INchile 00:28, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

isn't one big happy article better than a bunch of lousy stubs? well if x author is notable and only 3 of x's books have gotten press, sales, praise, are the other 7 that were ignored, didn't sell, are hard to find, or just posted online for example, also notable? just curious about your/wikipedia logic rationale policy.^MY♥_INchile 00:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Please, if you are going to put an article up for deletion, you should at least explain your intentions and reasons on the discussion page for that article. Since you didn't do this I have removed the template you added to the page. --LeakeyJee (talk) 03:20, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

OK no worries, but I do think in future it would be nice to explain your intentions in the talk page before you put up the deletion template, to at least give those who have put time and effort in to making reasonable articles a fair chance to get them up to scratch. Thanks, --LeakeyJee (talk) 09:29, 3 August 2008 (UTC).

Appreciate it, respect for your boldness and open-mindedness. All it needed was a ((notability)) tag to get me to ref it up, for future consideration. Regards, Skomorokh 03:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

IAR speedy? I like, I like! – ukexpat (talk) 03:44, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure I agree anyone should close an AfD based on WP:IAR; debate is valuable and we have lots of time. However, I absolutely agree with the speedy deletion, per criterion A3, and I've added that speedy deletion template (Template:db-a3) to the article in question instead. --Falcon Darkstar Kirtaran (talk) 09:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• Well, it isn't that bad, perhaps, but I'd hate to see it happen with any frequency. Most people would just vote "speedy delete" and let the admins who trawl through AfD deal with actually closing it. Incidentially, I noticed a mess at Maxwell Baumann, but I'm not sure what to do with it, because it doesn't quite meet G12. Any suggestions? --Falcon Darkstar Kirtaran (talk) 12:01, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Oops, I made mistake. Thanks for highlighting my mistake in typo. I have fixed it. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh, don't get me wrong, I know that the page is a hoax, and I'm not defending it in any way. I just wanted to comment on the nominator's assertion that this kind of crossover was totally implausible. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Cheers! Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 20:26, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion, TenPoundHammer. I had already contacted the problem editor twice and s/he was pretty aggressive (as s/he had been with several other editors). But... third time lucky! Let's hope it stays that way. OldSpot61 (talk) 22:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

The source text of this AfD discussion has already been deleted, but the discussion is still open: [5]. Can you please close it? Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 13:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah, well, thanks for looking into it! Ecoleetage (talk) 14:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you... ...for participating in my RfA, which closed with 119 in support, 4 neutral and 5 opposes. I'm honestly overwhelmed at the level of support that I've received from the community, and will do my best to maintain the trust placed in me. I 'm also thankful to those who opposed or expressed a neutral position, for providing clear rationales and superb feedback for me to build on. I've set up a space for you to provide any further feedback or thoughts, should you feel inclined to. However you voted, thanks for taking the time out to contribute to the process, it's much appreciated. Kind regards, Gazimoff 21:47, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I see that now. One problem, I have never withdrawn one in my life, how do you do it?--S_RX 23:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank You. I feel that it does meet WP:MUSIC#Albums. Thanks again. :)--S_RX 23:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to try and write an article about her previous band - let's see how that goes! As was mentioned on the AfD, being a member of two notable bands generally confers notability... Wheelchair Epidemic (talk) 23:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

• OK - that article is Period Pains (band) - unsure about the complete notability, but I've thought of an odd thing - Alper is now notable according to WP:MUSIC because she's been in two notable bands - but surely I can now argue that Period Pains are notable because they contained Alper .... Wheelchair Epidemic (talk) 00:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Period Pains was a redirect to Dysmenorrhea which is clearly its major use. I've turned it into a dab now. Wheelchair Epidemic (talk) 00:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

At this point your edits and deletions begin to look like harassment. Modernist (talk) 18:04, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I am referencing the inclusions..and I'm watching the page, I suggest you focus elsewhere..as I said this appears to be harassment....Modernist (talk) 18:10, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I am referencing the inclusions, don't make threats...Modernist (talk) 18:16, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I love your otters... they are wonderfully fun animals. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 20:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Macaroni soup. Thanks, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 03:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Just noticed BravesFan2006 added a re-entry of the song My Kind of Beautiful on Rounder Records. Just informed Eddie and he said that is not correct. Can you edit accordingly when you get a chance. Thanks, Dan Dsn7352 (talk) 06:08, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I guess I read speedy G4 incorrectly. Yu-gi-oh Abridged should have been speedily deleted instead of putting it up for discussion. See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Yu-gi-oh_Abridged. Thanks for your help on this. Wronkiew (talk) 06:35, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi TPH. Just to let you know that I've added more sources since you last commented. Thanks! Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 18:12, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Cheers for the update. I knew it was a blatant hoax, but it that was with the hindsight of some knowledge in the field, so I was playing it safe. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Should this talk page be protected, there's been some anon disruption lately. Dance With The Devil (talk) 01:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

On 7 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Philip Claypool, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

A little something for the otters to chirp about. --Gatoclass (talk) 14:09, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

It's me, HisSpaceResearch. You may remember me from many AfDs that we both participated in. Basically, I've been mostly inactive on Wikipedia for around three and a half months, and I've only decided to come back just now (I started using huggle for the first time today, kinda testing the tool). Meanwhile, you've been editing a lot as usual, looking through your contribs, and I'm noticing you're still not an administrator, and en.wikipedia would totally benefit if you were one (I mean, you've got about 500 contribs within the past 48 hours or so, and in comparison my past 500 contribs date back to February). Do you want me to write an RfA for you? It's been quite a few months since your last one anyway, and I can see no good reason why you shouldn't be an admin.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 13:22, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

If you are interested, leave a note on my talk page. Thanks.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 20:21, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

We all make mistakes; that's what WP:BOLD is for. I don't think there's reason to be afraid of coming under other editors' scrutiny, although it can be a gruelling process. I honestly can't see why other editors would have reason to criticise you because you've done so much work here on Wikipedia that you deserve praise more than anything else. Nobody's perfect. I'd like to write an RfA for you, but I'll leave you time to decide.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 20:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I saw you had worked a lot on Chocolatier (video game), and I'm letting you know that I reviewed it, and put the GAN on hold for now. :) Intothewoods29 (talk) 18:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I will leave as is and check it out, Thanks TPH, appreciate it.Dsn7352 (talk) 19:36, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 22:09, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Good luck... I hope it passes this time... I'm just worried that you are rushing it again...---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 22:33, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Beaten to the nomination punch! I was considering a nom when I surface from amid the deadlines, travel, and general mayhem at work... ah well, good luck and if it doesn't go this time, hire some Amazon giant otters and have them rampage for a while in irritation. *g* Tony Fox (arf!) 22:51, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, maybe have them politely nibble in frustration instead... or just do this... Tony Fox (arf!) 22:57, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

BTW, I modified my support to Beat the Nom Support per my voting criteria... you should check out my criteria to see the irony.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 02:07, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Just a note to say best wishes, and that I hope the RFA is a success. Pedro :  Chat  09:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I actually just came to wish you luck. I find it quite ridiculous that you and your otters aren't sysops already.  Asenine  10:42, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

The pass rate tends to be at around 75%, and you are at exactly that. Lets hope this picks up...  Asenine  16:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello. You reverted my edit of Encyclopedia Dramatica, claiming that what I wrote was not true. I don't know what it looks like on your side, but when I go to the website, it redirects me to "donate.html" (link excluded due to spam filter). What is going on? Skorpan (talk) 18:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Did you make sure to clean your browser cache? (You probably did, but just making sure...) Skorpan (talk) 18:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so I reverted the article back, as you may have noticed. Skorpan (talk) 18:11, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your involvement in the AfD for Terren Peizer. I suspect sockpuppetry, and so I've made a nomination at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Inshiningarmor. --Falcon Darkstar Kirtaran (talk) 18:11, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

It hasn't for me - I presumed it was vandalism, sorry. It seems to only happen for some people - weird...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 18:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help and pointing me in the right direction. Once Confused Wikipedian aka --Jobes23(talk) 21:06, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Any objection to me closing these? You've presented no reason for deletion, and I can't imagine these could possibly get deleted as a result of MFD. Friday (talk) 21:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I'm just letting you know I started creating a page on Rivers Rutherford, one of the pages you planned to create. Thanks! --Martin4647 (talk) 23:06, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

You left a post on my user talk page. I do not understand it as I am originally Russian, and only began to speak English four years ago. --Sammysk (talk) 23:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

What is a WikiOtter? --Sammysk (talk) 03:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Dear TenPuondHammer, our AfDs just have been deleted by another User. Do you know, how to put a new AfD on the Scala Inc. article and notify an admin and other user. If yes, please do so Mediatemple (talk) 14:23, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

No biggie...in fact, I've been out teaching a high school marching band camp since Sunday morning, so if you hadn't said anything I wouldn't have even known :D I had meant to put a notice on my user page, but never did... Kurt Weber (Go Colts!) 14:51, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, the one that says you are part of wikiquote. :)Mooncrest (talk) 17:07, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

It's fine I just put a pudding userbox instead. :)Mooncrest (talk) 17:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Mooncrest (talk) 17:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

:) Byeitical (talk) 19:14, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Give me a break - I am trying my best on this article. However, you are totally correct with the tags you have added. As always, with the lesser lights in pop music, finding citable, references is not easy. Anyhow, why the interest in this subject matter? Best wishes,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:45, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

You voted in this AFD that I started. It is only fair to mention that there has been a substantial change to the article since I nominated it for deletion, in that it now has a release date and a title. You may or may not wish to rethink your vote.
Kww (talk) 14:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Enough? Just barely, but if I was in a different mood, I could go for no. I'm not lobbying ... I just thought it was enough of a change that people should at least think about their stance again.
Kww (talk) 15:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about your RfA, TPH. Who knows, maybe it'll succeed next time. Best of luck. —Mizu onna sango15^Hello! 17:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Bah, I say, bah. Couple of thoughts from me for leading in to the next time: Keep doing the diverse editing, and maybe move away from deletion a little more. Most of the complaints that came up involved what people thought were questionable speedy noms and a few AFD noms. I think that was a little more than really necessary, personally - for example, I'm firmly in the "why the hell do we keep obvious hoaxes, they should be speedy bait" category, which unfortunately doesn't have a lot of traction - but ah well. Keep up the GA reviewing and maybe move into some other maintenance areas - categorizing, recent changes patrolling, stuff like that to get some experience on some other aspects of the encyclopedia. Are you in any WikiProjects? You could maybe join some of those and get the collaborative stuff going on, build some awareness that way. Be really gentle in dealing with people who bark at you, because people really pick up on those incidents. Finally... March, at the earliest, should be when you next try again - and I'll be happy to put the nom together if you like at that point. I think you're one of the good guys around here, but a few slips is all it takes to get nailed, sadly. Keep up all the good work, in the meantime... Tony Fox (arf!) 18:58, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

If I had known TPH was being considered as an administrator I would have supported him.  :( I don't track these things well enough apparently. JBsupreme (talk) 19:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for your advice, I'll look over the article and see what I can do. Sorry about the failed RfA while I'm here, if it makes you feel any better I've only been here long enough to see your sixth one :) CL — 22:03, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

It's a pity about the constant !RfA. I was actually thinking about nominating you right now, and noticed that you'd just withdrawn one today. What a strange process RfA has become - and I remember a time when people vowed to support mine if I had but 750 edits. On the matter, I think I will just wait for someone else to nominate me so I can avoid all the painful rejection. Who knew the occupation of janitor could become so contentious? --Falcon Darkstar Kirtaran (talk) 01:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello! Please be advised that I just created a new article for Dixie Lullaby: A Story of Music, Race and New Beginnings in a New South. This was cited on the dab page for Dixie Lullaby, which you nominated for AfD consideration. Considering the inclusion of this new article on that dab page, I would respectfully request that you please withdraw the AfD. Thank you. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:13, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

If you are 100% unable to flesh out articles (or even healthy stubs) on the other titles, then I would agree with your course of action to redirect Dixie Lullaby to the book and close the AfD, as per this solution. Thanks. Ecoleetage (talk) 15:37, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

No. I need some help. --Martin4647 (talk) 20:18, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello! I was wondering, if you have any free time on your hands, I'd like to ask you if you could create a discogrpahy for Rodney Crowell. The other day I fixed it to some extent, but usually when I create discographies, I tend to forget to put down info, such as Categories. So, if you could do that for me, it'd be much appreciated!

Also, I noticed Billy Ray Cyrus has been tagged to be re-written. In what sort of way? I'm not fully understanding "lack of cohesion?" It needs to be re-written, I would be more than happy to do so. Thanks! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 20:37, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I thought if "Love You With All Me Heart" failed to chart that you don't need to indicate it with the "fail to chart" letter "^A." I would think that people would get it. Is it just me, or is every popular female country artists' success declining, like Sara, Faith Hill, Trisha Yearwood, Martina McBride, and others.

As you said about editing country articles, no problem, it's what I like to do. I will look into using the "cite web" thing. It does look kinda difficult, sometimes you don't know the publisher or author. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 22:28, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

How do I find a more experienced editor with an unbiased point of view?--Ahnalira (talk) 04:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

It's just stupid. You have over 60k (thousand) contribs. I stopped paying attention to RFA some months ago, because of the hyprocasy I see (WP:NOBIGDEAL is farce anymore), and these kind of things get me a little more disgruntled with the project (which also explains my own self-imposed withdrawal). Yngvarr (t) (c) 22:35, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I saw that quite a few didn't like how you were "immature", we need to give you training to be more aloof and maybe a little more elitist in your ways. I, however, know I'm too immature to take the mop so doubt I'll get it soon. Still, here's to RfA #12, the successful one. And did I not tell you about how WP:NBD and the message it communicates has been lost in the mêlée of the domino effect of several opposes, usually for crummy and personal ethical reasons? Feh, one day they might see you as one of them but if they do... will the otters wear little crowns? treelo _radda 00:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

The otters don't like crowns. Their little ears won't hold them up too well. I did give them tailrings made out of fishbones. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Fishbone tailrings? Hm, that's thinking outside the clam. treelo _radda 00:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Not really, I stoled it from a Redwall book. Redwall otters are the best (besides my own of course). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:37, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

A part of me knew the origins yet didn't care. Still, fishbone tailrings are an awesome fashion accessory for the smart otter around town or indeed Wikipedia after a few hours of being judged harshly by their peers. Think this might be why you were called immature? Nah, otters are very grown up even if they aren't purple. treelo _radda 00:47, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Aha. MOAR OTTERZ!!!!! Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:53, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

You can never have too many otters... shoulda been lolottahs yknow. treelo _radda 00:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

lolotter Yngvarr (t) (c) 21:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, they are poor in the context of your garden variety lolcat (buckit != bucket, yokels) yet they are lolotters like it says. I approve. treelo _radda 22:28, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry to see that RfA take a turn for the worse. One or two more and we might have to put you ion WP:PERENNIAL. Better luck next time. :) Protonk (talk) 12:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

• Well I'm a few days after the fact but I also think it's a shame. On the bright side of things, the criticism was crystal clear. It would be a plus to have you as an admin so you should perhaps heed the advice. But I think it's also important to realize that it is fair criticism: it's ok to be on the deletionist side of the spectrum but this should make you even more cautious in, say, speedy tagging. (And I don't mean: "be more cautious or you'll make enemies", I mean: "realize that you're ready to delete more articles than the average Wikipedian so be more cautious out of respect for the average Wikipedian"). Pascal.Tesson (talk) 19:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Why did you remove the template from here for the second time? It is no longer a GA because of that, and hasn't changed since.--Otterathome (talk) 19:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Well if you disagree, remove it again and submit it to a GA review then note that in the last GA review the lead was too short.--Otterathome (talk) 19:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

On 12 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Everybody Wants to Go to Heaven, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

its been blocked from recreation though^MY♥_INchile 23:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

oh i assure you it was blocked from recreation, maybe you don't see that message because you are an admin. thanks a bunch. and if you need any help with anything let me know!^MY♥_INchile 23:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

really, why not? your a total badass and you come off as one. and lol, that is weiiiiird, maybe it was unlocked, i did leave a message on the locker 's page. hmmpf. oh well all's well that ends well i never says!^MY♥_INchile 23:33, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey, did you withdraw it or did it pass and I didn't notice? Anyway, I was going to switch from neutral to support, but I'm not seeing it. --Happy editing! Sincerely, Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 23:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Noooo, I missed it, or I would have voted ""support" probably :( Sticky Parkin 00:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey, there is an AfD discussion underway for an article I wrote (need to make that clear upfront). This is it: [6]. Question: does this merit non-admin closure, as per WP:SNOW? Or do you think it should continue? Thanks. Ecoleetage (talk) 00:43, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. If you are in a WP:BOLD mood, feel free to close it...or, at least chime in with your opinion. Also, congrats on the DYK cited above -- you are a fine writer. Ecoleetage (talk) 00:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

You're a good man. And the otters are good men, too. Ecoleetage (talk) 00:58, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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My apologies to Lady Otter -- though I suspect she's the toughest of the bunch. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 15:16, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Unless there is a name conflict or need for disambiguation (Sweet Sensation / Sweet Sensation (band)), musical groups are classified as (band) - a band can consist of two people. Even girl groups have band: see TLC (band) or Wink (band). Same general idea, even though the members of those "bands" do not play the instruments. - eo (talk) 17:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Do you have any idea why the category names have (duo) in them? "Sugarland" (the word) is disambiguated, but none of the others are music or band associated. The categories should simply be "Sugarland albums" or "Sugarland songs", whether the Wikipedia article title said (duo) or (band). Right? - eo (talk) 22:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah but what Im saying is, regardless of the band's article title, the categories should not say (duo) in it. It's like having "Category:The Beatles (band) albums". I don't think there is anything wrong with (band) as every other disambiguated band has, well, "(band)" in the title. I'd consider The White Stripes to be a band and there are only two members. Ya know? - eo (talk) 22:29, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I do understand your thinking, but I am also going by how things have been changed in the 3 years I've been editing here. A lot of articles used to have "(group)" or (girl group)" or (dance group)", etc., etc., etc. and slowly they were all changed to conform to "(band)". In conversation I certainly wouldn't call TLC a "band" however that seems to be the term used to disambiguate in Wikipedia and to try to maintain uniformity. However, if you feel strongly enough perhaps this could be brought up on one of the Music Project talk pages? I'd have to do a little searching to see if something definite is already stated on this. Regardless tho, those categories need to be fixed... whether the article itself says (duo) or (band), the categories should not have either. - eo (talk) 22:38, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Sure, let me get the new cats started and articles moved over, then I'll zap the old ones. - eo (talk) 22:52, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Done and done. If you need other requests like this just let me know... and if you find out anything about "(band)" before I do, message me! - eo (talk) 23:05, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah yes. Thanks - got 'em. - eo (talk) 23:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Meh, who needs talk pages???  :-P I responded to it; let's see what others think.... hopefully someone is paying attention. - eo (talk) 12:08, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I would agree with you on the Leslie Satcher category.... one article in there seems rather silly. Not sure why others would not vote for deletion. Are you re-nominating it? - eo (talk) 12:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Someone has responded to the naming conventions issue - let's hope there are more who will participate - eo (talk) 11:20, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey - since there is also The Sugarlands, I would suggest creating something like Sugarland (disambiguation) or Sugar Land (disambiguation). Then of course update all the links-here stuff, etc., etc. - eo (talk) 11:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but very very similar and personally I think a disambig page would be a good idea. Lots of singular/plural disambig pages. Also makes it easier to add standard ((otheruses|Sugarland (disambiguation))) tag to all of the articles. - eo (talk) 11:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

That's the idea, yes. Although if you create a disambiguation page, you can put the same hatnote on all three articles leading to the same place... better than two different hatnotes on all the pages leading to each individual article. - eo (talk) 11:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello, TPH. I'm disappointed because of your unsuccessful RfA. I was hoping that your RfA would be successful. You have more than 50,000 edits, you've created so many articles, and you want to help this encyclopedia. Please don't leave the project. You got more than 100 support votes in your last two RfA. That means there are more than 100 editors who think that you should be an admin. You've strong supporters. You can apply after four months and I hope you next RfA will be successful. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:40, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

• I'm not going away anytime soon, don't worry. I really do need to stay away from XfD, though. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 03:45, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I regret that I did not know about the RfA. You definitely have my support. Please notify me next time, which will not be canvassing because I am explicitly asking for the notification. Also consider me if you need a nominator. Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 02:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

So that means there are 101 supporters! I'm glad to know that you are not going away. Good luck for your next RfA. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:05, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I will get the sources up there pretty soon. I am fairly inexperienced with editing and writing wikipedia so your help is certainly appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flashdornfeld (talk • contribs) 18:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

For Faith Hill's upcoming single from her Christmas album, "A Baby Changes Everything," wouldn't it be on the "other charted songs" table because that is what most Christmas singles from country singers holiday albums go? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 23:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok, well can I move the single to the other table then? Dottiewest1fan (talk) 23:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Just a little note to say thankyou for participating in my successful RFA candidacy, which passed with 96 supports, 0 opposes, and 1 neutral. I am pleasantly taken aback by the amount of support for me to contribute in an administrative role and look forward to demonstrating that such faith is well placed. Regards, WilliamH (talk) 09:08, 14 August 2008 (UTC)t

Why don't you request for adminship again. I'll back you Ijanderson977 (talk) 10:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

You have shown interest in an airport AfD in the past at [[Chadwick Airport] You may wish to visit Stoney Point Airfield and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stoney Point Airfield to participate as well. This message is being sent to editors who participated at Chadwick but have not participated at Stoney Point, regardless of the editor's opinion. Thank you!--Paul McDonald (talk) 03:05, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I want to create an article for an upcoming event where users can learn more about the event and the people attending. Is there a page that can teach me/explain how I can do this. The following is an example of what I want to create: http://opentranslation.aspirationtech.org/index.php/Main_Page

Thanks! Makechange123 (talk) 17:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

(: DRosenbach ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 17:30, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

so this link <http://opentranslation.aspirationtech.org/index.php/Main_Page> is not related to Wikipedia? It looks like a page from wikipedia though. Makechange123 (talk) 17:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

ok thanks. so there's no way i could make a page like that on wikipedia correct? Makechange123 (talk) 17:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

thanks for your help! how can i change my username? Makechange123 (talk) 17:48, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Eh? You nominated ((sofixit)) for deletion?

That weirds me out. I'm trying to figure out what went wrong. Could you tell me the reasoning you used to conclude that that was a good idea? Did anyone ever tell you about that template before? --Kim Bruning (talk) 18:05, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I think the template is often quoted in articles as exemplifying the core wikipedia spirit. Nominating it for deletion is not quite as bad as deleting the main page, 5 pillars or Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License, but it's still pretty fundamental.

You say you've never seen it used for it's "intended purpose"? Does that mean that you have seen it before? <scratches head> What purpose do you believe is intended? --Kim Bruning (talk) 18:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Erm, WP:SOFIXIT just redirects to WP:BOLD. There's 2920 straight GHITS for sofixit btw. You'd probably break ah ... one or two links, I'll wager O:-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 19:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

We originally had the template to explain the concept of WP:boldness and flexibility of rules to new users (which it is still being used for as I understand it). But its existence is also used in talks and in newspaper articles to explain how wikipedia culture works.

You haven't been aware of this? --Kim Bruning (talk) 19:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Of course. much of this can be derived from template talk page. Perhaps you read the talk page, but didn't draw the same conclusion? (You did read the talk page, right? I do have to ask :-/ ) --Kim Bruning (talk) 19:49, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

They were not being lazy, they did not mean WP:SOFIXIT, and the two are (fairly obviously one would think) not the same thing. Somehow you must have assumed this early on, and it stuck in your head, I guess?

But this does establish that you have heard of the concept before. You've been with wikipedia for 2-3 years now. What was the thing that made you up and decide to delete the template right now, rather than sooner (or later)?

--Kim Bruning (talk) 20:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give Linens-N-Things a different title by copying its content and pasting it into Linens 'n Things. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is considered undesirable because it splits the page history which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other articles that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. Jesse Viviano (talk) 19:55, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Pardon the intrusion but I saw that you are participating in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Century Mall and I have just completed an overhaul of the target article to both expand it and add references. I would appreciate it if you would review the article as it currently stands. Thanks. - Dravecky (talk) 21:24, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

TPH, thanks for the correction. danDsn7352 (talk) 05:28, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I noticed a few TfDs that you had recently closed and just wanted to remind you to subst ((tfd top)) and ((tfd bottom)). Also, for deletion processes with daily logs (such as CFD, RFD, and TFD), the result of the discussion should be noted (i.e. the template substed) below the section header, not above it (as is the case with AFD and MFD); see here. Cheers, –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 16:26, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Could you please look in on a discussion here? I am very much under the impression that JASpencer is using flawed logic to remove my speedy tags, which means I keep having to write out AfDs for things that are non-notable per policy. I can think of six occasions when this has occurred, four of which I noted on ANI, and two more since then. One of the other WikiProject Freemasonry editors is attempting dialogue, but JASpencer's reasoning is flawed, IMO, and I'd like a neutral third party with an understanding of the scope of the policy in question to give an opinion.

JASpencer says that Grand Lodges are notable because they are Grand Lodges, despite the fact that there are a not inconsiderable number of "bogus" Grand Lodges that are literally one or two people and use a PO box or apartment for a mailing address. I know some of the GLs I AfDed must exist, but they don't even have information on their own websites (if they have them), and existence does not equal notability. There are even US Grand Lodges that we don't have articles on, and when we do, they're awful, because there's no information available. Grand Lodge of West Virginia is one; it got press last year for a lawsuit, but the GL (according to the 2008 book for my jurisdiction) was founded in 1865 and currently has 23,000 members. Without finding some books on its history, I'd consider it nn - the lawsuit was a "news burst"-type of coverage, and nothing more.

Anyway, JASpencer claims that CSD A7 is only meant for specific cases where people are writing about youth clubs and such. Now, since I know policy is not that narrow, JASpencer's statement says that "if an org says it is something that one would generally perceive as notable, then it asserts notability by its title regardless of sources." Conversely, I think JASpencer believes I'm POV-pushing by deleting things that don't fit with my supposed view of Freemasonry, and that's where his idea of "doubt" comes in, so it's wholly subjective. I think he has his own biases he's unwilling to admit to (but are shown by his editing pattern) but that's not the issue here. The issue is that his misunderstanding is causing me to have to do a lot of unnecessary extra work in the process of category cleanup, so I'd like it cleared up by an uninvolved party. MSJapan (talk) 16:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

The youth clubs were meant as an example not as the only possible use for the term. The point is that CSDs are only meant for undeniable cases not a short cut around community discussion in controversial cases, and removing articles about liberal (or "irregular") Masonic jurisdictions is a case where it should be done on a case by case basis, particularly if they are a member of CLIPSAS. And yes, you sometimes have to work harder to get articles, particularly controversial ones, deleted. JASpencer (talk) 08:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

JA Spencer is perfectly correct. If anything is presented that any reasonable person might possibly regard as showing the importance of an organisation, it is not a candidate for speedy. An article does not have to show notability to pass speedy A7, and the text of CSD is unambiguous about that. If there is any likely good faith challenge to aspeedy, it should go to afd and be judged by the community. speedy is for undoubtedly inappropriate articles that don't even merit discussion. If there is a doubt about whether it merits discussion,it does. The details of whether its masonic or not is irrelevant. We delete local fraternity chapters by AfD or Prod, not speedy. don't bypass the need for community consensus. DGG (talk) 06:30, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

TPH: I was noticing on the page for Mark Knopfler, it doesn't mention that he wrote "When It Comes to You" and also played guitar on it on John Anderson's album "Seminole Wind." Since you are the country music man, I was thinking this might be right up your alley and I do not have the time to devote to it at this point because I can't decide how it needs to go in there in addition to a discography mention. What do you think?Atlantabravz (talk) 21:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

TPH, otters, I admire you for all the work you put in here, and I just wanted to thank you very much for your comments at my recent RfA. I also wanted to acknowledge that the timing may have not been the best for everyone; I knew that the Polish reggae AfD was hurting you and would likely help me, so perhaps we should not have been at RfA at the same time. Sorry if that appeared to be a factor in my decision to be nominated when I did; it was actually a reason I hesitated. Looking forward to seeing you around. Sincerely, Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

An article that you have been involved in editing, Westfield Eastridge, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Westfield Eastridge (2nd nomination). Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Richard Cavell (talk) 23:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I took care of some of your suggestions. I have yet to find a verifiable source for Esham's birth date. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 18:22, 17 August 2008 (UTC))

• Done. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 19:19, 17 August 2008 (UTC))
• Everything I could find sources for is in the article. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 19:21, 17 August 2008 (UTC))
• Done. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 19:44, 17 August 2008 (UTC))
• Okay, but the Allmusic writer is really the only reviewer I could find. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 20:59, 17 August 2008 (UTC))

The reason for this is because we had the proposal and like 2 or 3 people interested, but the majority said it wasn't enough for a full project, so I created it as a subpage project until it could get off the ground and have more support. is there something wrong with that? I don't want to break any policy. --HELLØ ŦHERE 21:28, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

May I ask why? It's a personal subpage of mine that I happen to have other Wikipedians helping with. --HELLØ ŦHERE 21:32, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, we had it at the Council/Proposal section and it was decided that it wasn't enough for a project at the time, so I made it a subpage. But even still, what's the problem with having it as a subpage, I'm just using it as temporary until we can get a few more people and more organized, because at a regular page it'd probably get tagged for inactivity, but as a subpage, it can stay as is, that's how I see it anyway. --HELLØ ŦHERE 22:22, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Administrator's noticeboard is 427 kilobytes long and I cannot edit such amounts of data through my "slow" modem. This is why I may not participate in the discussion led there. Can you help me? Thanks in advance. -- Imbris (talk) 23:13, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I do not know exactly, but is there a procedure for archiving the noticeboard or a way to reach the data by some other way than simply clicking onto the wikilink for it. -- Imbris (talk) 23:18, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. I have found a way to stay in touch with what is going on at the noticeboard but still I cannot contribute to it. The way is to load history of the noticeboard and look if anybody answered something. Then I must contact the contributor via their user talk page. -- Imbris (talk) 23:27, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Why did you delete my, and Becky Sayles' userboxes without advising us how to fix that? Those were decent boxes! Please tell us both what to do on our talks.--Editor510 ^{drop us a line, mate} 09:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

PS

Sorry for sounding harsh, but i'm upset.

Those exact ones. I can easily try to remove the redlinks if you tell me what to do!--Editor510 ^{drop us a line, mate} 16:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I asked, and hopefully I can fix it. Be patient, and DO NOT TOUCH my work-in-progress.--Editor510 ^{drop us a line, mate} 18:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Howdy! =] I think that this song, "Roll On", should be deleted. It doesn't have any sources, and hasn't charted. It's supposedely going to be released this year. But their are no sources what-so-ever! I would set up the deletion boxes, but I don't know how. Could you help? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 20:11, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 20:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Try going to his websites www.kidrock.com and www.extremekidrock.com video has already been filmed for it. Its been the known fourth single for a year all you gotta do is look at the sticker on the album. It will be released in early September. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.40.155 (talk) 23:30, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

And why is this up for deletion when all the info is correct go to kidrock.com or extremekidrock.moonfruit.com if u want sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.40.155 (talk) 23:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for withdrawing the Afd... one FYI about it though - I notice you had southern South Island in quote marks. Though it's not an official region of NZ it's as much a distinct area for NZers as, say, the Pacific Northwest is for Americans or the Scottish Highlands is for Brits. Everyone in NZ knows the exact area designated as the southern South Island (the term "south of the Waitaki" is also often used for it), so it doesn't really need the scare quotes. Grutness...wha? 00:39, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, it might sound a bit speecific, but consider that area-wise it's 25% of the country (population wise about 10%). So it's more of a multiple-state equivalent (actually the combination of two provinces) than "Florida panhandle" or similar. Grutness...wha? 01:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

What kind of % is necessary, that 70% doesn't cut it?

Also, I was wondering if you could check this out and let me know what you think about me putting it on people's talk page as a kind of welcome, when applicable. I have done something like this informally about 20 times already to great reception, and figured it would be nice to let people in on some of the culture. Let me know if you think I should modify it at all in terms of content/vocabulary/style/etc. DRosenbach ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 02:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that I do that a lot don't I. I forgot how common that name was, thanks for changing it, I'll work on it in the future articles I make/fix. Dottiewest1fan (talk) 02:23, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

The article listed two nontrivial references independent of the subject. Speedy deletion should not have been performed, IMHO. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 18:17, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Jimfbleak deleted it again. Grr! - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 19:05, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I was reading your user page when I noticed you didn't add the ((User-CN)) userbox with the other boxes. That box signifies that you are a member of the CN WikiProject, just so you know. Paper Luigi ^{Talk • Contributions} 22:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes but it's entirely optional, if the otters don't want it they don't have to. Not like everyone who lacks this userbox will be removed from the project or something sinister or plain stupid like that. I'd be the first out. treelo _radda 22:32, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Gabba Gabba We Accept You We Accept You One Of Us. Yngvarr (t) (c) 22:42, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey, no reciting of Ramones lyrics here. treelo _radda 22:47, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Whose lyrics? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 22:47, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Fark. treelo _radda 22:55, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Huh? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 23:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

.... Oh look, a Muppet! *runs* treelo _radda 23:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Sure thing. DRosenbach ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 12:09, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Since this seems to be widely cited, would it make sense to move it to project space? --Clubjuggle ^T/C 15:05, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know. Can user essays be in the non-user space? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 18:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't see why not. WP:ESSAY says,

"Essays in Wikipedia namespace that are mostly written by a single person, and not frequently referenced, are generally moved to the userspace of their author."</quote> I think WP:HAMMER passes the "frequently referenced" test, but even in the unlikely event that an MfD succeeds against it, it can always be userfied at that time. --Clubjuggle ^T/C 19:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I would think that any notable songs that were written by Knopfler and covered by someone else should be included in his article somewhere. I didn't really know where to put the stuff about John Anderson, but now that you bring up the Carpenter stuff there is definitely something to go on there. Not only songs that he wrote, but if there is evidence that he played guitar on any notable songs that could probably be included as well (just like he both wrote and performed on the Anderson song). It really shows the breadth of his talent to include this stuff, but like I said, I'm not sure how best to build the section.Atlantabravz (talk) 23:44, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Very, very nice contribution. I like the section a lot. It leaves plenty of room for expansion in case we find anything else.Atlantabravz (talk) 14:58, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/3 Peat (song).Do U(knome)? ^yes..._{or no} 00:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

10lb, you don't have to place the ((Cfd-notify)) template on either my or my bot's talk page. Any categories created by us are a result of a CFD rename, so we don't need to be notified. Thanks. --Kbdank71 15:24, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I added references to each of the characters' pages. So now what? Mfowler11 10:49, 22 August 200 (UTC)

Hi. I've been making a lot of updates (OK, just some minor additions and patches) to the Northwest Plaza article, and I was wondering if you have any more plans in updating the article anymore. I've asked a bit more about the history at the talk page and also at Labelscar. Boyd's was apparently a local, upscale chain, but I'm still trying to get that into a good reference. Also, I'm still trying to figure out what happened during NW Plaza's early open-air days, Westfield's attempted remodels, and NW Plaza after enclosure but before Westfield. So, if you could help, drop me a line! TheListUpdater (talk) 00:27, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I saw the edit you made to my user page. It was useful because sometimes I can't remember how to spell my name exactly because it's so long. Thank you! When I complete my prize cabinet, I'll let you choose one. Andrzejestrować Zajaczajkowski Plecaxpiwórserafinowiczaświadzenie Poświadczyxwiadectwo-Bjornovich (talk) (contributions) 09:51, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks to me like the Radio Disney Hot 30 fails WP:CHARTS, so I started a discussion here. It's clear to me that it doesn't convey notability ... I'm more worried about trying to maintain the column in articles where notability has already been established. If I could find a verifiable source, I wouldn't bother to push it, but my feeling is that I'm going to start taking it out of hundreds of articles. Before I do that, I like to have the feeling that there is support for that decision, and that I haven't just failed to find a source. Your input is welcome.Kww (talk) 14:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I did miss the signature thingy,, (I'm new at this). What do you mean by 'source'? I took the picture to augment the article. It says "taken by Surry roger" (me). Does it need my full real name? Roger --Surryroger (talk) 21:17, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, I've been trying to fiddle with AWB, and asked several people for help, but I haven't been able to figure out why it's not catching anything. Perhaps you can ask Reedy to help you? - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 04:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Huh? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 04:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

You wanted me to take out the |Chart position = lines out of the 6300+ articles remember? I tried to automate it through AWB, but I couldn't... -_- I give up. I'll try again tomorrow. - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 04:51, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

On 26 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Hughey, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thank you for your contributions! - Mailer Diablo 13:55, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help, I appericate it. I will see if I can get consensus to get mms: links added as they are in use alot around the web. I do, most of the time, link to the page the link is on (or a WinAmp link instead), but in the case of WAXM they have the mms: link on their front page. Again, thanks for your help :) Take Care and Have a Great Wednesday....NeutralHomer • Talk 03:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello -- I am wondering if you would be willing to reconsider or withdraw your vote for "Delete" regarding Category:Lebanese blogs now that I've created Category:Blogs by country? --Wassermann (talk) 06:12, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

... why you keep failing RfAs, insane AfDs like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Grand Ole Opry's New Star are a good part of the reason. I know you do a lot of valuable work on music articles, but what were you thinking on this one? Wasted Time R (talk) 14:16, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your comments in the afd -- There seems to be no way to verify the track listing. The link provided by Wasted Time R may be inaccurate, as it says the album was released in 2000, not 1950-something. Also, notability isn't inherited. It may be Jones's first album and on a notable label, but since there seems to be nothing to say about it (it might have had his first chart singles; I'm not sure since I can't verify the #*!%& track listing), but since it's been out of print so long, do you think it might at least be worth redirecting? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 05:47, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I have been astounded at how little effort it usually takes to create full-fledged articles for subjects I know nothing about that are up for deletion with people saying there are no sources available. I have not done this yet for this album (I participated at AfD before I went to bed), but I will look further. A suggestion of merging or redirecting will always be taken better then deletion, especially if it is suggested in lieu of taking an article to AfD. My gut instinct is still to keep, but I will research further and do my best to make this an article worth reading. Alansohn (talk) 14:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)