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Hi Tigerdude9, If you wanted to combine the Aircraft section with the Crew section that would be okay. - Samf4u (talk) 20:05, 30 April 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well I can prove things myself and in some cases I have done so, but finding proof it can be a hard task sometimes. I'll try and look for some citations. Tigerdude9 (talk) 17:58, 15 June 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay, thanks. Like I said, to me it seemed a bit odd. It might be worth considering trying to find proof before adding such things. Richard 22:40, 15 June 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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As MONGO notes, both lynxes and grizzlies are endangered or threatened in the lower 48 states, and by basing edits on IUCN status you're making a synthesis without knowing the actual facts. Acroterion(talk) 12:59, 21 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, I did go on the IUCN website and checked the LC list just to be sure. Tigerdude9 (talk) 15:12, 13 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Can you revert the edit, there’s to much information. Pilot error was not included in the investigation as there was no wrong actions made by the crew, along with ATC. The error made by them wasn’t big, when compared to the crew being spatially disorientation.
Hello again, I reverted your edit. I appreciate your edit as yes those two factors were also a cause. But compared to the other factors I.e spatial disorientation and instrument failure, those are the key causes. It’s just with this summary in particular I’m trying to keep it as short as possible! Thanks bud
Why in the world would you add the section "Thai Airways Airbus A330 incident" to Thai Airways International Flight 261? Other additions you made introduced multiple grammatical errors also. Please remove the Thai Airways Airbus A330 incident section and fix the other errors. - Samf4u (talk) 19:38, 11 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well I translated from the Russian version (as it had the reccomended artcle star next to it) and the A330 incident was in the Russian version in the first place. The incident was slightly related to the crash of flight 261, except that was because some passengers were claiming that they saw the ghost of one of the flight attendants who was killed in the crash of flight 261. I was even thinking about removing it ahead of time. Anyways, I removed the section and fixed the grammatical errors as you requested. I've also added a clean up template. Tigerdude9 (talk) 20:51, 11 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
1) You created Cite errors under the References section.
2) The Aftermath section should include "The activities that happened after the accident, to include information on the "Search and rescue" and "Recovery" phases of the accident." Generally the Aftermath section should be just before the Investigation section.
I have fixed the cite errors, though there are basically two aftermath sections (look closely). I know that the aircraft passengers and crew are suggested to come after the accident section, but due to the complex aftermath and investigation, I had to put the "aircraft, passengers, and crew" first (I mentioned this in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation/Style guide/Layout (Accidents)). I apologize in advance for any mistakes. Tigerdude9 (talk) 21:21, 29 December 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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A page you started (University Hospital Medical Center at Treichville) has been reviewed![edit]
Can you please avoid adding empty infobox parameters that are not applicable to the particular article? Such as what you did here: for air accidents where all people on board were killed, there's absolutely no point in adding the injures= and missing= parameters; same for extra stopover parameters when there was only one stopover. I appreciate the reformatting of the infobox, which is something I'm working on as well (e.g. I invite you to add the occupants= parameter wherever is missing), but all those extra parameters that are not applicable just pollute the source code. Thank you. --Deeday-UK (talk) 08:22, 3 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You did it again here. From now on, if I see an edit that introduces garbage in the infobox source code, I'll just revert it. If you don't care about tidying up your own code, I won't care either and will just hit Undo, ok? ---Deeday-UK (talk) 18:58, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Deeday-UK:Ok, ok, I forgot to remove it. Though it might also look less cluttered if I got rid of the stuff in parentheses as well as the empty parameters. Here is a less cluttered version. Take a look I have not added it yet as it's better that you take a look at it first:
1973 Paris Air Show Tu-144 crash
The Tu-144S CCCP-77102 displaying at the 1973 Paris Air Show on the day before it crashed.
That's much better. To tidy it up even further, image_size is deprecated; it should be replaced with image_upright (leaving it blank or using a modest value, e.g. 1.1). Same for type, which is now summary. You can also get rid of pointless piping in links, and use [[Tupolev Tu-144S]] instead (per WP:NOPIPE). The time of the crash is never specified in the infobox, as it's not particularly relevant. --Deeday-UK (talk) 22:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok, I made the modifications. I'll put it in the article. You are welcome! Tigerdude9 (talk) 22:55, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
An article you recently created, Xavier Driencourt, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. ~~Cheers~~Mgbo120 20:22, 6 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Re your edits - whilst not wrong, the fact remains that this was the deadliest accident involving the 767, as 9/11 was not an accident, but a terrorist attack. A similar situation exists at British European Airways Flight 548, which is the deadliest aviation accident in the UK. Pan Am Flight 103 was a terrorist attack. Maybe the Lauda article could be handled in a similar way to BEA548? What do you think? Mjroots (talk) 20:36, 8 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Per an AFD here[1], all content was merged into the airline article. The accident article was made into a redirect....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:42, 30 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
looks good. Put it in mainstream!!--Petebutt (talk) 05:41, 1 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Hi! Tigerdide~ I saw your edit on deedays talk page ~ I don't know exactly where I read in wiki but if the article is more geared towards the way English or European or Asian read and write then the consistency stays with how ever the page is written ~ if it is written more in american lingo then the page stays more american ~ so if the way Americans lay out air accidents is different than say the way english do but the article is written more inline with the american way it should stay american ~ and vice versa if in English ~ ~ which article were you talking about ~ by the way nice meeting you~ if I can help in any way ~ let me know here and I will do my best ~ thanks again ~mitch~ (talk) 12:34, 1 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@mitch, the choice of which variant of English to use for an article has got nothing to do with the article structure. As far as aviation accident articles are concerned, the agreed structure is laid out at WP:AVILAYOUT-ACC, and nowhere does it say that different article structures apply to accidents occurred in America, Australia, Europe or anywhere. --Deeday-UK (talk) 20:17, 1 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Deeday-UK: If you are trying to ping me you are doing it incorrectly ~ If I was not watching this page I would have never seen your statement to me ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 21:01, 1 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Tiger thanks for the info I'm learning accidents the same as you ~ @Deeday-UK: does have some valid points ~ but together I am sure we three can build on what were are here for ~ editing and having fun at the same time ~mitch~ (talk) 21:19, 1 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Ok so to start things off I would like to bring up an edit to UPS Airlines Flight 1354. It is understable that there was a image overkill, and we will not restore them. But something felt, just off. Tigerdude9 (talk) 02:35, 28 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Tigerdude9, you've got to stop adding 'pilot error' wherever you feel it's appropriate; it is not, unless you can quote a reliable source using exactly that phrase. It's astonishing how casually you seem to disregards guidelines on original research and synthesis as you did on UPS Airlines Flight 6. Keep your personal deductions to yourself ('the report says such and such, therefore it must have been pilot error'), let alone your in-line speculation ("It could be possible that the flight crew shut down PACK 1. If so, then pilot error would be one of the causes").
This is not the first time I'm telling you this. I would suggest to focus your attention on other aspects of the article, and leave accident summaries and presumed pilot errors alone. There was another 'orbital' editor, not long ago, that seemed obsessed with adding 'pilot error' to every accident article, and it didn't end up well. --Deeday-UK (talk) 13:29, 21 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'll be honest, I though OR might be okay in acomment that can't be seen when not editing. Plus (this is my personal opinion) I don't care how big or small the errors are. Pilot error is pilot error. Both pilots were at fault in the Tenerife accident. And Douglas Lampe violated crew resource management by deciding to return to Dubai (even though that was not stated in the report; it does state that it does require frquency changes though). It's still worth noting. As for quotes that use that phrase, the closest you can find is "the flight crew's failure to [do this]" in accident reports or another source that says "pilot error is the cause of..." as long as it's reliable. However, whatever is noteworthy should be noted. I'm sorry, it's just hard to tell where it's appropriate. You are right about the OR stuff, though noteworthy stuff should be noted. I respect your opinions though. Tigerdude9 (talk) 16:37, 21 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
'Pilot error' is a simplistic, non-neutral and unhelpful expression that does not help the reader understand. It's no wonder that no half-decent accident investigator will ever use it in their reports. To quote from the UK AAIB "The sole objective of the investigation of an accident [...] is the prevention of future accidents and incidents. It is not the [...] purpose of such an investigation to apportion blame or liability", so if the report does not apportion blame, our article shouldn't do it either, whereas saying that an accident was due to pilot error does exactly the opposite. If some other reliable source – an established newspaper, a book by a reputable author etc. – does use that phrase, then we can quote it, if appropriate, but we certainly cannot pepper the encyclopedia with 'pilot error' whenever the report says that the crew did or did not do something that they were or were not supposed to do (but we do mention what the crew did or did not do, of course).
As for accident summaries, the causes of an accident are almost invariably numerous. Cherry-picking the ones that feel more appropriate (especially pilot error) and putting them in the summary breaks the neutral point of view, therefore they are best left out entirely, which is also how accident reports summarise the event in their titles (e.g. 'Accident Report – Boieng 737 Nxxxx, Controlled flight into terrain, Springfield, 27 July 2019'). Say what happened in less than ten words, and don't try to cram in why it happened. --Deeday-UK (talk) 13:17, 27 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes I know that. The same apply applies to the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and other investigation boards. To quote from from the US NTSB The NTSB does not assign fault or blame for an accident or incident; rather, as specified by NTSB regulation, “accident/incident investigations are fact-finding proceedings with no formal issues and no adverse parties … and are not conducted for the purpose of determining the rights or liabilities of any person.” 49 C.F.R. § 831.4. In fact what you said is actually part of Annex 13 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation. All aircraft accidents are designed to prevent accidents in the future and nothing else. They are not meant to blame or make anyone responsible. Do you want me to make a fictional report on that 'Accident Report – Boeing 737 Nxxxx, Controlled flight into terrain, Springfield, 27 July 2019'? We both have different views. I view pilot error is a neutral term that is worth noting maybe because I'm autistic (even though that's highly unlikely) , but it's the only reason I could find. You say it breaks said neutrality. Let me describe a summary in less then ten words if that 737 Nxxxx became a reality: "Controlled flight into terrain due to pilot error." "Tigerdude9 (talk) 22:16, 27 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Don't put online citations on a sentence they when don't corroborate what the sentence says. I'm talking about Royal Air Maroc Flight 630 and the co-pilot sending a Mayday call. Two of the four references (the only two I checked) said no such thing so I reverted....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 09:45, 4 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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I do not know the reasons for which you have moved most of the referenes from the
template into the mainspace. Doing so makes the article and editing nightmare since every time you need to move anything you have to do it both with the text and with the entire list of supporting references. I suggest to move the references back into the
template. mostly considering you did this without prior discussion at the article's talk.--JetstreamerTalk 12:27, 8 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I just wanted to make the article be easier for everyone to edit in visual mode. Still I've taken your advice and I've moved the references back to the ((Reflist)) template. Tigerdude9 (talk) 15:21, 8 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Can you please stop moving the citations out of the ((Reflist)) template across many airline-related articles? Doing so makes articles harder to edit because of the presence of such citations in the editable text. Thank you.--JetstreamerTalk 00:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes I can stop. I thought it only applied when there were comments on the article saying so, or it is brought up in the talk page, but I was wrong. Tigerdude9 (talk) 21:14, 28 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Keep the article. We've got little information at the moment, but more info will emerge as events unfold. Tigerdude9 (talk) 20:24, 24 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi Tigerdude9. Thanks for your contribution. I have listed some sources on the AfD which may be of assistance. Kind regards, Mar4d (talk) 07:11, 26 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I really appreciate you adding the Air India Express Flight 812 report link. That led me to find additional reports that I had not realized were publicly posted.
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1- You added not 1 but 3 references to a sentence and not one of the 3 references corroborated what the sentence said. This is a pet peeve[3] of mine (and others) around WP.
2- Those references used to be in the article as long ago as 2013[4]. They were part of a paragraph about a separate investigation. I cleaned up[5] the article, which at the time blamed the crash partly on cell phone use, and alternative hypothesis section was deleted. Here[6] was a brief talk page discussion.
References are good but only if they corroborate what is said in the article. If they don't, the references have no place in it....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:03, 26 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, I re-added those references because they were in the Finnish version of the article, which is also rated as a good class article and could one day upgrade the class of this article. Tigerdude9 (talk) 19:13, 28 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And how the hell are they related to something quoted right out of accident report? They aren't and therefore they don't belong there. I'm finding other similar edits done by you. You're still doing this. I may have to consult an administrator or start a discussion....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:43, 28 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's mentioned in the accident report on pages 24, 57–58, and 78. Tigerdude9 (talk) 21:32, 28 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi I’ve just reviewed Cheick Oumar Diarra. Thanks for creating this. Ideally it needs more references to support it. Mccapra (talk) 05:32, 3 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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It didn't specify which variant of English to use. Tigerdude9 (talk) 18:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Hello Tigerdude9! I am from the Portuguese Wikipedia but i'm here to request something. So, I translated some bits of Pulkovo Aviation Enterprise Flight 612 and published to the Portuguese Wikipedia. You may have noticed that i'm not that good on translating articles from Russian to English, but I try my best to correct. The Russian article of this accident has more details than the English one and more references, so my question is: are you able to convince some Russian translators to translate this article? Because if the English article is translated, I can translate to the Portuguese Wikipedia. Thanks!--Fernandokaiserbr (talk) 23:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Hello, Tigerdude9. I've just realized that you had added a note regarding section expansion in Kenya Airways Flight 431. I would like to know what other things that may be added to the section and how can I help to improve it? Thanks. PaPa PaPaRoony (talk) 16:15, 22 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Uhh.. well I thought you wanted to discuss about it, but I guess I was wrong since you deleted the template immediately. Thanks for your time anyway, appreciated it! PaPa PaPaRoony (talk) 05:54, 23 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yeah I thought it was too short but then I changed my mind. Tigerdude9 (talk) 14:25, 23 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Hi, you recently updated a cit in the article Air Algérie Flight 702P. I think you archived the source (the AAIB accident report) or something like that, but I'm curious about the date you put into the citation of 7 December 1995. How did you find that date? The AAIB report says only that it was first published in 1996. Many AAIB reports have only the year next to the Crown copyright notice, and others have the month and the year. I've spent a fair amount of time scanning AAIB reports for dates and not found anything more specific than the Crown copyright notice. I'd like to enter the complete and correct date when I cite AAIB reports.
BTW, if you're interested, I uploaded that report + appendices and a few others to the Wikimedia Commons, Category:AAIB aircraft accident PDF files - this one is found here with appendices here. I only recently learned they collected these reports at Wikimedia. Dcs002 (talk) 07:26, 11 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Hi Tigerdude9, regarding your edit here, you essentially called me a copyright violator. But you neglected to check when/where that text originated, and if you search both WP history and ASN history (on Wayback for the latter), you'll notice that the copyvio is in reverse. Thanks, Crum375 (talk) 19:35, 26 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For clarification, this issue of ASN lifting wp's text verbatim came up years ago, and I felt it set a bad precedent for them to do that, since we frequently rely on them for various factual tidbits. I recall sending them an email complaining about it at the time, but got no reply, so I ended up ignoring it. It was only when you removed big chunks from the article and called it copyvio, which led to the article's GA needing reassessment, that I realized the irony of this situation. I am sure you did it innocently, so no big deal, and it's good for a laugh, I guess. Crum375 (talk) 22:50, 26 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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September 11 attacks featured article nomination[edit]
Can you explain why you created a non-starter FA nomination back in 2018 for September 11 attacks? You would have to be a significant contributor to do that. See the FA criteria GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 20:26, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You are asking someone why they did something when their account was less than a year old. Given how you've been making a lot of questionable edits lately (with an account that is also less than a year old), I don't believe you are in any position to question what others did in their younger days. Just stop it, already.GSK (talk • edits) 05:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, sorry for this message. It is indeed from the past. and We all are not perfect. GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 13:36, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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