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Happy editing! Jacona (talk) 20:48, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Jacona! I'm very glad to be part of the Wikipedia community. Thank you for your help! Ulisus (talk) 01:16, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Cerebellum (talk) 19:21, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ulisus, I saw you'd asked some questions at another user's talk page and not got an answer yet. I presume you were asking about Igor Krutogolov, which was accepted and moved to mainspace a week later? It's expected that others will edit your article; it's often a good sign and a good way of learning how to do things :-) The talk page stuff relates to the WikiProject banners, which you yourself actually created when you started the talk page; from the edit summary, this was an automatic function of the Articles for Creation software. When articles are still in draft space, they don't need to be rated by the WikiProjects, because they're still under construction. After the article is accepted and moved to mainspace, people who work with the WikiProjects often come by and assess them. I see that your article has since been assessed "start" class in 2 categories, which seems a bit low to me, but that's not one of the areas I work in. There's no need for you to do anything, unless one of the WikiProjects piques your interest and you decide to add yourself as a member and talk about issues on the project talk page; but WikiProjects in general are much less active now than they were 10 or 15 years ago, so you may not find any interesting discussions happening. They were always optional.

I don't really understand your last question, "I would also like to add two more languages two the article and would like to know when and how it is usually done." I see you also created Крутоголов, Игорь on Russian Wikipedia, so if you mean you would like to create articles on the same subject on other versions of Wikipedia, then I see you've already figured out how and started to do that :-) The different-language versions are all run independently, and their rules on things like whether new accounts can create articles directly in mainspace differ. However, two concerns that may be relevant are that many Wikipedias frown on machine translation because the results are so poor; and that copying text within Wikipedia, including in translated form, requires some sort of statement to satisfy attribution/copyright (even if you yourself wrote the English Wikipedia text you're translating). Different versions of Wikipedia do attribution differently. For example, on English Wikipedia we require a "translated page" template on the article's talk page, and also strongly prefer a statement in an edit summary including the name of the non-English article, along the lines of "Creating article by translating text from [[:LANGCODE:ARTICLETITLE]]"; German Wikipedia instead requires importing the foreign-language article with all its history, usually by asking an administrator to place it in your user space (so since I've been a Wikipedia editor for a number of years, my contributions history on de.wiki is greatly inflated by edits imported from en.wiki). (And I hope I don't need to point out that you must not copy text from somewhere else, online or off, including by translation.) Does that information help?

Everyone starts somewhere, and thank you for giving us that article! But since you appear to want to focus on Krutogolov for the time being, and to write about him in other languages, I have to ask whether you have any connection with him? It's strongly recommended that we not work on articles on topics to which we have a personal connection (such as being related to the person, and especially if it is in fact an autobiography), since neutral presentation is one of Wikipedia's fundamental principles and it's extremely hard to be neutral when one has a close connection. If there's a financial connection, such as employment, you need to read the rules on conflict of interest, and in particular, if you are being paid to edit Wikipedia, you must declare it. I have now given you the required notification about the rules; ignore it if it doesn't apply. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:42, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Yngvadottir, thank you for such a detailed answer, it was very helpful! Yes, I was asking about the Igor Krutogolov article before it was published trying to figure out how to post the same article in Russian and Hebrew so that the articles would be connected. Yes, I've already figured that out :-) and posted a Russian version of the article and connected it to the English one. Yes, I noticed that my article was rated "start class", which is somewhat low on the assessment scale I agree, but since it's my first Wikipedia article, I thought it was a pretty good achievement for a start and I was very excited to see it accepted in the first place :-) I would really appreciate any contributions to the article that could make its rating higher if that's how it works at Wikipedia.

As for the translation, I was writing the Russian version in line with the English one, so I had both of them ready at the same time. I'm also working on a Hebrew version for which I am using the Wikipedia translation tool, but I'm certainly editing the automated translation (to the best of my Hebrew language knowledge and translation expertise). I'm a professional translator, so I thought I should try to add as many translations to the article as I could.

As for your concern about my personal connection to Igor Krutogolov, I can absolutely assure you that he has no idea I've been writing a Wikipedia article about him. And I definitely don't get paid for it. It's my own initiative and a fixed idea since I got acquainted with Igor Krutogolov's music. I happened to visit his concert in Tel Aviv and was actually astounded by the performance. I had heard about him before but got really curious after that live performance. So, I started looking up and was surprised to find no Wikipedia article about him despite loads of sites and articles mentioning his name throughout the Internet. So, I did my research and got obsessed with the idea of publishing a Wikipedia article about him. That's how it started. So, everything I have written in the article is my own work based on my research. It wasn't an easy task at all since the information about him is scattered around the Internet in different languages and because he appeared to be involved in so many projects of completely different genres and art forms. So, it felt like writing a thesis, I can tell you :-)) Or fitting the pieces of a huge jigsaw puzzle together. I tried to be as neutral as possible to meet the neutral presentation requirements and tried to use only reliable sources. I'm very thrilled with the outcome and I'm very glad my article has been accepted and rated.

Thank you for your time and explanations. Ulisus (talk) 00:54, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Great! (This section should also serve to allay the fears of any other Wikipedians who might suspect a connection with the article subject). I'm particularly delighted that we have gained another multilingual editor. I am not a mentor, but feel free to ask me if you have further questions and I'll do my best to answer. You can either post to my user talk page or use the "ping" function: ((U|Yngvadottir)) generates a link to my user page and a notification to me (works with any registered editor, but sadly not with IPs). Yngvadottir (talk) 01:35, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for your help and appreciation! Ulisus (talk) 02:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]