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1. 00:22, 19 November 2023
2. 04:45, 19 November 2023

Please self revert the most recent. BilledMammal (talk) 04:47, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@BilledMammal: the second one is not a revert. I didn't remove anything. I moved the material into a new paragraph and I added new material that had never been in the article before. Can you clarify which edit I reverted and how I reverted it? VR _talk 04:49, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For example, you changed "Hamas had repeatedly called for the destruction of the state of Israel" to "other sources state that it had repeatedly called for the destruction of the state of Israel". Please self-revert. BilledMammal (talk) 04:51, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for self reverting; however, given your edit summary it seems you intend to repeat your edits, just in smaller pieces; please discuss here before you do so. BilledMammal (talk) 04:56, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just saw your message. Do my latest two edits (after my self-revert) constitute reverts? It should be pretty clear that they do not.VR _talk 04:58, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes; for example, my above example is still part of your edits, where you undid in part edits that said that Hamas has repeatedly called for the destruction of the state of Israel. BilledMammal (talk) 05:03, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How did I undo "that Hamas has repeatedly called for the destruction of the state of Israel" when I haven't removed a single letter! I only added new material that has never been added before. Can you point to a single letter or word that I removed? VR _talk 05:04, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You don't need to remove material to result in a revert; can you revert by changing the meaning of existing material. For example, see this clarification from ScottishFinnishRadish. BilledMammal (talk) 05:07, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That comment says "If you add clarification without removing them you're not reverting." Isn't that what I did - added context without removing?VR _talk 05:10, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You're not adding clarification, by reducing the statement from one of fact to one attributed to "other sources" you're adding a qualifier (One person believed it did not need the qualifier, but another did, so they partially reverted the edit.) BilledMammal (talk) 05:12, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ok, how about now? I've removed the qualifier. All that remains are sentences I added without disrupting your sentence. VR _talk 05:16, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you; I think it's fine, I'll look again later. Removing the year wasn't necessary; the qualifier is "founding charter", adding the year is merely adding context. BilledMammal (talk) 05:26, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Alright.VR _talk 05:27, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That is absurd, you cant say adding material that conflicts with the narrative you would like to include is a revert just because it gives information you dont want included. This is wikilawyering, and it is tendentious in its own right. nableezy - 17:48, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A revert is undoing the actions of another editor. For example, if an editor adds "X happened" to the article, and another editor changes that to "Y said X happened", then that is a revert, because the article no longer says that "X happened" and thus the actions of the first editor have been partially undone. BilledMammal (talk) 05:51, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Adding material is never a revert unless it is adding material back in that has been taken out as part of an edit recently. The example you specifically give is not a revert. Where you quote @ScottishFinnishRadish above, I went back and read his words that you linked to and they were pretty specifically talking about when someone takes wording from one section and moves it to another, that is a revert. Using some of SFR specific word's what counts is when "You're changing what someone else has added". Merely adding new material is not "changing what someone else has added", unless you're re-adding material that has been recently removed. TarnishedPath^talk 09:40, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Maybe ScottishFinnishRadish can shed some light on the above whenever they have time.VR _talk 05:27, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Without seeing the actual edits I can't really weigh in too precisely. When it comes to changing context there's a lot of grey area based on the exact edit, what was removed, and what was adjusted. It's really better to just discuss issues first, since on small changes it's normally not too difficult to come up with something that has reasonable consensus. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:35, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You have reverted 3 of my edits:

1. [1] original edits [2],[3]
2. [4] original edit [5]

There is currently a 1RR restriction at 2023 Hamas attack on Israel. I suggest you self-revert but I am going to report this as you've previously been warned. WCM_email 09:20, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Those are consecutive edits which make it one revert. nableezy - 18:03, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Dear Vice, I have reverted your recent edit to the article Hamas. This change for the lead paragraph was reached after a long discussion. You are welcome to read through the thread here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hamas/Archive_23#%22Do_not_change_this_to_%22terrorist%22_without_gaining_consensus_on_the_talkpage_first%22

If you want to move the section "Hamas has waged an armed campaign against the state of Israel, which has included suicide bombings against civilian targets and indiscriminate rocket attacks, the former of which have been described by academics as acts of terrorism and has led many countries to designate Hamas a terrorist organization. A 2018 attempt to condemn Hamas for "acts of terror" at the United Nations failed." to another place in the article, I'd appreciate it if you firs start a discussion in the talk page, and tag me, so we could discuss it there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hamas

Thanks upfront. Tal Galili (talk) 16:17, 24 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey Tal, you seem to be edit-warring while discussion is ongoing and I merely restored the long-standing version. Lets continue this on the article's talk page. VR _talk 20:44, 24 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hello Vice regent. Regarding this discussion, do you know if Hamas has denied this massacre or not? Ghazaalch (talk) 04:24, 28 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Seems it has lots of incorrect information. Please update the appropriate detail 2409:40F2:9:FC34:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 09:49, 6 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What are you referring to? VR _talk 17:37, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Actually, lets leave the ANI report open. I think what you're doing is against policy and I want more eyes on it. VR _talk 12:27, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi, your edits on 1988 Hamas charter violate 1RR, please revert immediately. Thanks. Drsmoo (talk) 19:50, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Drsmoo: How so? I can't see this. Diffs please. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:55, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Specifically changing the section heading twice

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Special:MobileDiff/1193044910 Drsmoo (talk) 19:58, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The first edit was a new edit. The second edit was a revert. Which edit did the first edit revert? VR _talk 20:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Both edits were removing the existing heading, ie removing someone’s work. Both are reverts. Drsmoo (talk) 20:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I had always thought any subtractive change was a revert. It seems that’s not the case so all good. Drsmoo (talk) 21:36, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey VR, I see you did two removals of info here. I imagine it's by mistake, can you self rv? [6],[7] Homerethegreat (talk) 18:13, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sure, hold on, doing something important atm. VR _talk 18:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC) By important, I meant see this. VR _talk 18:31, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I saw you removed that he is on the US list of terrorists, I think it is lead worthy and important to restore. Homerethegreat (talk) 18:22, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Would you consider this edit a sufficient self-revert? VR _talk 18:27, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think it's best you simply rv to how it was previously. (him being designated a terrorist in the first paragraph, and the second sentence on 5 million dollar bounty in second paragraph). Homerethegreat (talk) 18:43, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

But the first revert, even you agree was a good revert, right? Like do you agree that a weak source making a claim contradicted by NYT was undue for the lead let alone the first sentence? Not to mention its not mentioned anywhere in the body of the article, so its inclusion in the lead violates WP:LEAD. VR _talk 18:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The first edit is fine of course, no matter my opinion :). Just rv the second edit you did and that's that. I hope you have a pleasant day and I hope all is well with the important thing (real life is more important of course than wiki). Homerethegreat (talk) 18:51, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ok, so I self-reverted[8] restoring it to the first paragraph.

Then I made a second edit moving it to the second paragraph. I don't see this edit being a "revert" of anyone else's edit. If it is, please point me to the edit. VR _talk 18:56, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Homerethegreat: can you indicate which edit I reverted? I'm having a hard time finding that.VR _talk 18:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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