The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Move to Draft space.. While the article was felt to be unready for main space in its current form, the sourcing appears to exist to meet the football/soccer SNG. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 17:52, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1994-95 Persib Bandung season[edit]

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I feel like this article should be deleted because its from a second tier team in Indonesia that is isn't a professional league at the time. Not Homura (talk) 07:12, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 13:31, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, fails WP:NSEASONS. Giant Snowman 13:33, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify per below. Potentially notable, needs work. Giant Snowman 11:45, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. MrClog (talk) 21:48, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman: you may wish to re-visit as it has been clarified that this article is about a top-level professional team and the nominator's statement above seems to be misleading... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:03, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. MrClog (talk) 21:49, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify This is a really odd nomination. This is not a good article - it's an unsourced structure of the article - but a quick look shows Persib Bandung won the Indonesian championship that year and then went on to qualify for what was then the group stage of the AFC Champions League and haven't been relegated since they won this thing. I don't think the article fails WP:NSEASONS, but it fails some combination of WP:NOTSTATS, so I suggest draftifying this so it can be worked on. SportingFlyer T·C 07:21, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I do see where you are coming from as it's something that you would see in a draft. The thing is that the fact that the person who created the article @Teguhkrismanto: only edits have been these seasonal articles for this team with the last edits being three months ago on this article and before that it was 2016. Not Homura (talk) 00:17, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - although this is was a horrible article, the nominator seems to be a bit confused, as in 1994-95 Persib Bandung played at the highest level of football in Indonesia (not the second) and RSSSF says it was fully professional. I have removed all the badly formatted unsourced stuff and written some sourced prose that clarifies that this article relates to a season in which a pro team won the national league of its country..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:01, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The league they played in might have been the top-tier at that time but it is now known as Liga 2, which is not listed at WP:FPL...je suis confused. Giant Snowman 10:04, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the page linked above, RSSSF also says here "the Liga Sepakbola Utama (1979-1994) was a semi-professional, the Liga Indonesia (1994-2007) a professional league." -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:47, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, in my lifetime, in England, Division Four has become League Two. Very confusing. As an analogy, this season article is about them winning the first iteration of Division One, and with the Premiership being created later on. SportingFlyer T·C 18:24, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.