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The result was keep. Fenix down (talk) 21:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2009 African U-17 Championship squads[edit]

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Contested PROD. List of mainly non-notable youth players. Fails GNG JMHamo (talk) 20:07, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. JMHamo (talk) 20:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no evidence of notability; lists of youth players at tournaments are generally not notable. Giant Snowman 20:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:05, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 21:05, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Not sure how this is any different than 2009_FIFA_U-17_World_Cup_squads or 2009 UEFA European Under-17 Championship squads. This a continental competition that served as a qualifier for the World Cup, some of the players have gone on to play professionally and represent their country. The article just as notable as the other 2 above, number of notable or non-notable players is just some arbitrary measure that should not impact on the notability of the page. This is not a list, it's an article about a tournament. TonyStarks (talk) 03:36, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add, I've gone through the article and many of the players are indeed notable. Their names were either spelled incorrectly so it did not like to their articles or their articles have not been created, but many have gone on to become full internationals. TonyStarks (talk) 04:25, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. What makes this topic notable - where is the significant coverage? Notability is not inherited. Giant Snowman 11:21, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are plenty of sites and news sources that covered the tournament including CAF, BBC [1], DZFoot [2], AllAfrica [3], 11DesEtalos [4]. There's tons of sources that covered this tournament. TonyStarks (talk) 14:45, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is coverage about the tournament, which already has an article - not about the squads. Where is the significant coverage about the squads? Pinging !voters below to reconsider @BlameRuiner, Nehme1499, Ortizesp, REDMAN 2019, and Kante4:. Giant Snowman 15:45, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman: You could say the same about the 2009 UEFA European Under-17 Championship squads. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 15:50, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You absolutely could, and I'm sure there is consensus from a while back that youth tournament squads are not notable - hence why they don't have any navboxes. Only World Cup/AFCON/Euros etc. Giant Snowman 15:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You might not find that many people agree with you there. Hence why all the pages still exist. Also no one objected to it's undeletation. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 15:58, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman: Also what about this? REDMAN 2019 (talk) 16:03, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also likely non-notable as well! I don't understand what point you're trying to prove here? WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not an argument for keeping a non-notable article. Giant Snowman 16:04, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman: Sorry for the delay. Basically currently in this discussion there is a consensus to keep the page and there's not much to be done about it. You can't delete the page against what is currently a overwhelming vote in favour of keeping the page. And as the 2009 African U-17 Championship is currently considered notable I see no reason why it shouldn't have squad lists like all the other tournaments. If you feel that such youth tournaments aren't notable then that is discussion for another time. Also could you ping me next time? I'm not watching the page constantly and it may mean that I may not see any replies at first. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 16:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll ping you when you start pinging me *thumbs up* (pings only work when you sign). Giant Snowman 18:58, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, the real issue here isn't the fact that the article is inherently not notable in and of itself, rather the fact that only 2 out of 8 squads are sourced. If we can find sources for the other 6 squads, I don't see why the article shouldn't be kept. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 19:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Tony's arguments. --BlameRuiner (talk) 07:26, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per TonyStarks. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 19:52, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Tony.--Ortizesp (talk) 00:39, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per all above. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 11:20, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. Kante4 (talk) 11:40, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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