The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. It has been demonstrated that WP:CRYSTAL does not apply (see Lugnuts). Absent the application of that policy, the discussion resolves around a difference of editorial opinion as to whether it is presently appropriate to have an article on the subject. That opinion is evenly split. Mkativerata (talk) 05:44, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 UEFA European Under-19 Football Championship[edit]

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It's been a year and a half since the last afd, but the same rationale still applies. There is still insufficient information available for this article to be notable. It will be in the future, but not now. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:52, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:52, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:52, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:CRYSTAL & nominator; article can be recreated nearer to the time of the event & when more info is available. Giant Snowman 16:06, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. --Reckless182 (talk) 16:36, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, why nobody don't see anything wrong with 2013 UEFA European Under-17 Football Championship, while 2013 UEFA European Under-19 Football Championship need to be deleted? Plus, qualification article already was created, its kinda strange to have qualification article about event and do not have article about that event. --Bearas (talk) 16:44, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, 1 year to the finals.--Uishaki (talk) 14:48, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Be that as it may, there is still insufficient information available to merrit writing an article. Other stuff exists is an invalid claim to notability. The fact that qualification becomes notable before the main event, goes without saying. Qualification starts before the main event, therefore there it is covered sooner than the main event, making it notable earlier. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:54, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Can be restored nearer to the event's start. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:02, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, Can't see the issue here. The article is referenced and is part of the qualification articles that go with it. My feeling is that people who want to see the qualification articles will only want to see the actual championship aswell. If not referenced then it is WP:CRYSTAL, but referenced then it isn't, is it? Druryfire (talk) 15:36, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The issue here is that there is nothing to see. The last afd deleted the article, on the grounds that there was insufficient information available on the subject with a provision for recreation when it becomes available. However, this article is substantively the same as the one that was deleted fifteen months ago. At present the article is nothing more than a content fork from the article on the qualifying tournament. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:22, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{Let's talk}_{about my edits?} 16:59, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Per WP:CRYSTAL, which states "Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." Lugnuts (talk) 18:04, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.