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The result was redirect to 2015 Cricket World Cup. Jenks24 (talk) 03:36, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 Cricket World Cup knockout stage[edit]

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Fairly useless article until the actual tournament starts next year. Between now and then it's just basically an empty template. Very much falls into WP:CRYSTAL. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 21:16, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. It's really just a bad case of WP:NOTNOW. It could be an article later, though. EMachine03 (talk) 00:25, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per EMachine03: this article is useless until the World Cup gets underway and some content can be added Nick-D (talk) 05:09, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per WP:CRYSTAL and WP:NOTNOW. Contesting of Speedy Delete and Prod by article creator was without rationale and seems a case of "don't delete my article". DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 05:19, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (or redirect) Actually, it meets WP:CRYSTAL - "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place". Looking at the edit history of a similar article would suggest redirecting it to the main article for now. An even better example shows it was created about eight months before the tournament started without issue. I see no reason to delete this, esp. as it's only a few months away. If it was towards the end of next year (or later), then I might go down the delete route. I don't know why people are citing the guideline WP:NOTNOW either - have any of you actually read that page? It's to do with request for adminship! Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 08:58, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - "2011 Cricket World Cup knockout stage shows it was created about eight months before the tournament started without issue but the 2007 Cricket World Cup Super Eight stage was created on the day before it started. You see that WP:Other stuff exists, but we need to follow the guidelines rather than haggle over precedents pro or contra. People who cite NOTNOW probably confused it with WP:TOOSOON, which says "While there are topics that might arguably merit an article, sometimes it is simply too soon" Actually NOTNOW has a header that alerts users not to confuse the two, but... The special criteria listed at TOOSOON do not include sports events, though. IMO articles which describe stages of major sports events should only be branched out as soon as there is actually info available, before that the event with all its stages is covered by the parent article. Kraxler (talk) 19:52, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 2015 Cricket World Cup for now. Too early for an article on this, obviously, but we might as well keep the template around in the history until such time as the tournament starts. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 07:57, 27 July 2014 (UTC).[reply]
Delete clear case of WP:CRYSTAL. Jim Carter (from public cyber) 11:43, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could you point me to which bit of WP:CRYSTAL this warrants deletion? Surely you don't mean the part I've quoted above. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 13:48, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or, as a second choice, redirect. It is a notable, confirmed and scheduled event, so the terms of WP:CRYSTAL don't apply. And there's surely little harm in an article that demonstrates how the phase of the tournament will work, before it starts. Having said that, no great objection to a redirect either. While the article isn't doing any harm, nor is it doing much good. A redirect will at least keep the material there for future use. --Mkativerata (talk) 02:15, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect Once the knockout stage starts/teams are known it can be recreated. Kante4 (talk) 18:58, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - premature but it will be needed in due course so I see no reason to destroy work that can be built on when the time comes. The Whispering Wind (talk) 00:00, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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