The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. As always, I'll be happy to provide the deleted content for anyone who wants to transwiki it to a more appropriate project. --jonny-m t 04:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Totally in-universe trivial details about a game's elements. Any sign of real world notability? Ultra! 16:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per WP:GAMEGUIDE --T-rex 16:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — it's storyline material for a game, which has no reliable sources to establish it with any real notability. I'd say merging was probably an option, but I have no idea where or when and the sheer number of fair use images presents a serious obstacle. --Haemo (talk) 22:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Suikoden - The game information here can easily be reformatted and reinserted into the Suikoden series article. Since this article is basically a list of key in-universe story points and should be deleted, I'd need to say that other articles such as Characters of Final Fantasy V (and many other "Characters of Final Fantasy" articles or similar game universe lists) would fall under WP:GAMEGUIDE. As a side note, this page was created as per a cleanup suggestion. As for references, Suikosource may not be a major publication website, but it is in fact one of the few that cover and translate content from Konami's Japanese press releases and developer blogs. LanceHeart (talk) 23:07, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game related deletions. MrKIA11 (talk) 22:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Pure plot summary. This article does not establish notability in secondary sources. --Phirazo 01:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Suikoden With a bit of work the information can be rewritten to fit into the Suikoden article, and what LanceHeart said. --Noctrine (talk) 12:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: per WP:VGSCOPE's presumption against lists of game items, and per WP:GNG since this article does not assert notability through multiple independent reliable secondary sources. Randomran (talk) 22:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:NOT#GUIDE, WP:GAMECRUFT. Asserts no notability through non-trivial coverage by verifiable reliable sources independent of the topic. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 00:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Wikipedia:Five pillars (notability to a real-world audience, consistent with a “specialized encyclopedia” concerning verifiable fictional topics with importance in the real world), What Wikipedia is, Wikipedia:Lists (discriminate, encyclopedic, notable, unoriginal, and verifiable), and per WP:ITSCRUFT not being a valid reason for deletion. Also, thousands of people come here for it and there is clear editorial effort to improve it. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 00:53, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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