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The result was redirect to Nanabhai Bhatt. SoWhy 07:27, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Aadhi Raat Ke Baad[edit]

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I found no significant coverage per WP:NF. SL93 (talk) 17:28, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. SL93 (talk) 17:29, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 21:50, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment This film had Ashok Kumar playing the lead role. The Times of India's archived editions can be accessed using Proquest. Someone with access to Proquest's Historical Newspapers Archive might help here. I'm sure TOI must have reviewed this feature. --Skr15081997 (talk) 10:34, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:INDAFD anyone? Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 06:03, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing on Wikipedia should get an automatic pass. Any sources? SL93 (talk) 07:09, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I found no electronic coverage, but for a 1965 film that is not that unusual. Currently, I do not have access to ProQuest. However, important films are discussed in published books, coverage I also did not find, except for a mention in Screen World Publication presents National film award winners: 1953-1997, of which I am unable to obtain a copy to determine if it won awards or if it is just meentioned in passing. The snippet appears to be a passing mention, but who knows? I also found coverage of a song with that title (not from the film), and an essay that seems to be widely cited by S. Rashid Naim, “Aadhi Raat ke Baad [After Midnight],” in Nuclear Proliferation in South Asia. I note that while Ashok Kumar is notable, that does not make notable every film in which he starred. Notability is not inherited. --Bejnar (talk) 20:14, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Question Can someone check the Encyclopaedia of Hindi Cinema? --Bejnar (talk) 20:20, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - answered question I am informed that Aadhi Raat Ke Baad is not mentioned in the Encyclopaedia of Hindi Cinema. Also, a Google book search of Encyclopaedia of Hindi Cinema did not find any reference. I note that the filmographies of actors in that encyclopaedia are selective. I think that clenches the question of the possible notability of Aadhi Raat Ke Baad, unless someone finds more elsewhere. --Bejnar (talk) 13:49, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment It is always difficult assessing the notability of old foreign language films, namely because there is very little English electronic coverage unless they are internationally renowned works. Its director seems to have had a long career and its lead actor seems to have won a string of awards. On those grounds I suspect it is probably a notable film so in terms of notability I would give it a pass, but I don't have much confidence it will ever be anything more than a stub. It might be worth dropping a notice at Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force because they are better placed to assess its viability. Betty Logan (talk) 14:27, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - A few movie books have mentioned this film.[1][2][3] In any case, there maybe issues with the scarcity of English sources, but film could be notable. Capitals00 (talk) 16:38, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Directory listings and passing mention do not count toward notability. --Bejnar (talk) 18:30, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Bejnar: Can you change your vote to redirect? I am supporting redirect to List of Bollywood films of 1965, because there is existence of the movie for sure, but we have not enough sources. We have to reach to some consensus here. Capitals00 (talk) 06:19, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that redirects are cheap, but they also encourage inexperienced editors to recreate articles. This is particularly true in the topic Bollywood films. I still think that delete is appropriate, and that there is relative consensus. It is not the number of sources, but what is said (or not said) in independent reliable sources. Existing blue links from the director and cast member can easily be piped to List of Bollywood films of 1965. --Bejnar (talk) 12:41, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Non-notable. - TheMagnificentist 20:07, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Still no reliable, verifiable references present in the article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:21, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to its notable director Nanabhai Bhatt. Until someone comes up with the likely reviews from 52-years go to show WP:NTEMP as met. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 09:04, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Support redirect to Nanabhai Bhatt. Per my comments above. Capitals00 (talk) 17:31, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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