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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 06:13, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Albania national football team campaign at the UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying[edit]

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I think that this topic should be covered in the UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying Group I article, no need for separate article. We do not have other articles of this kind, and I do not see why this one would be special. Vanjagenije (talk) 01:00, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:26, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:26, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete/Redirect as stated by nominator. There is really no reason for this. United States Man (talk) 03:28, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - unnecessary fork, contravening WP:NOTSTATS, essentially says nothing that is not covered in the qualifying group article. Fenix down (talk) 06:35, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as completely unnecessary. Giant Snowman 12:30, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Completely unnecessary article Seasider91 (talk) 13:22, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per everyone above - Simply not needed. –Davey2010 • (talk) 14:42, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as they already said. Article is not needed. Jim Carter (from public cyber) 18:11, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The same author wrote another similar article, Albania national football team campaign at the 2014 FIFA World Cup qualification. Should I put that one to discussion too? Vanjagenije (talk) 21:50, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It has already been prodded. Fenix down (talk) 07:13, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm the creator of the page Albania national football team campaign at the UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying and I saw your message for delete the page. I don't understand where is the problem with my page, as I've started creating by basing on an national team football season, then I found this template: Infobox national football team season which is more than correctly. Also I saw that some national teams have also an season but only as a calendaric year, these are such : Australia, South Korea, etc. Atleast you must say that page should move/rename or something similar but not to delete as an unecessary.Thank you. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 22:22, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, as noted above, there are several problems with the page: firstly, there is no consensus that articles covering qualifying comeptitions for individual nations are required. Secondly, there are major issues with WP:NOTSTATS, there is no sourced prose in the article and finally, as a result of the lack of sourced prose, the article is essentially just a fork of the relevant qualifying group article which has all the matches, standings and results in it. Fenix down (talk) 07:13, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - if by any chance the article is kept, the title will need to be changed into grammatically correct English..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:49, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the problem with the sources, I've used the Soccerway.com, a source which used for almost every football team or football players article on wikipedia, since Transfermarkt.co.uk was called as a non-reliable source. Also I totally agree with ChrisTheDude comment that page should rename/move at least and not to delete completelly. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 20:47, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The issue with the sources is that they are merely routine match reporting. To avoid WP:NOTSTATS issues you need to use much more than this and provide sources that allow the composition of sourced prose beyond simple match reporting. This however would not address the issue that this is simply an unnecessary fork from the European championship qualifying article as there fundamentally was nothing special about Albania's campaign. Fenix down (talk) 21:34, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What about players of the full squad, which used to called up and played during this campaign. What about individual records showed in infobox?! Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 23:11, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They're all stats. Where is the sourced prose showing that this campaign received significant, reliable coverage to meet GNG outside of routine match reporting? Fenix down (talk) 06:38, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok tell me for which sources you talking about, what kind of them and give me an example. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 20:21, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Really not needed. Just stats and results that can be found elsewhere. Kante4 (talk) 19:00, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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