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The result was keep. All the delete votes are mere citations of notability guidelines; but since the keep voters have provided evidence that Umar has played in a professional football league that deletion argument no longer applies. I am closing this accordingly. Sjakkalle (Check!) 20:39, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Aminu Umar[edit]

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. This remains valid. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:01, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:02, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Does not meet WP:NFOOTY. ///EuroCarGT 00:36, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete - Has not played in a fully professional league nor played senior international football, so fails WP:NFOOTY. No indication of any other achievements garnering sufficient coverage to pass GNG. Fenix down (talk) 10:15, 30 January 2014 (UTC) Keep - Player passes NFOOTY having played at least once in a professional league. Fenix down (talk) 08:46, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 13:20, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment:TFF First League is a fully professional league.

→http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/spor/futbol/23544328.asp

→http://www.fanatik.com.tr/tff-ligleri-tescilledi_3_Detail_88_314854.htm

→http://www.tff.org/Resources/TFF/Documents/0000014/TFF/STATULER/ST3L-Statu.pdf (TFF Third League is also professional)--Lglukgl (talk) 03:34, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 17:04, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - it appears this article passes both NFOOTBALL (TFF First League is likely fully-pro) and the GNG (I added one detailed article about his signing with Samsunspor in July 2013). Jogurney (talk) 16:40, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The article does not establish the notability of this subject. Folgertat (talk) 16:04, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - TFF First League is a fully professional according to sources [1] [2][3][4] so meets WP:GNG Nfitz (talk) 01:36, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Has not played in a fully pro league, so fails WP:NFOOTBALL. JMHamo (talk) 01:40, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - for all those voting !delete, please review the 3 references I've added to the article (there are several others online if you search) to see if you really think it fails GNG. I don't think the coverage is routine. Jogurney (talk) 15:34, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I don't speak Turkish, so the burden is on you to prove he meets GNG. JMHamo (talk) 15:38, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - For the ones in English, they are very short, in my mind not what is required for substantial coverage. Fenix down (talk) 16:04, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I wouldn't have thought the English language articles were "routine" coverage (the online Turkish-language sources are similar - reporting on his signing with Samsunspor and goal-scoring in 1. Lig). Fair enough, but I've seen far, far less pass muster at AfD before. Jogurney (talk) 16:46, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:: Aminu Umar has scored one league goal for Wikki Tourists in the Nigeria Premier League the top league of Nigerian football.→http://westafricanfootball.com/2012/05/27/the-nigeria-u-20-national-football-team

Nigeria Premier League is a fully professional league→Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues /--Lglukgl (talk) 20:02, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - you are absolutely correct; Umar played at least once in the WP:FPL because he scored a goal in the league for Wikki Tourists (see this). It just shows how silly NFOOTBALL is, but the people !voting no based on NFOOTBALL probably should explain why they didn't factor in the NPL appearances. Jogurney (talk) 21:58, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:23, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above comment. Played in a fully professional league so passes WP:NFOOTY. --JamesMoose (talk) 20:03, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.