The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 17:45, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anna Anthropy[edit]

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I am nominating this on behalf of User:Filibusti, who has requested me to assist him in nominating it. I do not endorse the nomination or vote Delete.

Filibusti's argument, if I understand it correctly, is that the article topic is not notable per our notability policies, and additionally that the article does not meet WP:BIO. I have invited him to further explain his argument through a formal delete vote. DustFormsWords (talk) 06:57, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. A clearcut failure of meeting WP:BIO. There is coverage of her but it does not hold up to RS scrutiny (as is a requirement for inclusion, as outlined in WP:GNG). None of the sources given are reliable sources, but seem more like personal blogs. I was at first uncertain whether Indiegames.com might be an RS or not, but the interviewer uses a handle ("timw") and his real/full name isn't listed anywhere on the site. Filibusti (talk) 07:06, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  Indiegames.com is run by the same organization that runs the Independent Games Festival (the most important event in the field) and Gamasutra (one of the biggest sites in the world of professional game design). How can this not be a reliable source? By this logic almost all notable indie games would have to be deleted from Wikipedia because the most important sites aren't counted. --IndieGamesGermany (talk) 14:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. I added some info about the ipad game she helped develop that was launched in 2010, and some more references, including one from MacWorld that indicates she did develop that game, which is called Pong Vaders. I've tried to address the notability/orphan/refimprove tags, added an info box and generally tried to improve the article. She seems to be a notable freeware game developer. Nihola (talk) 18:01, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. It may be under-developed, but it has several references, some of them certainly fulfilling WP:RS. Mighty Jill Off has several interviews with her from reliable sources that are not covered on this article. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 18:51, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Which of the references that go into non-trivial detail of her person would you say is an RS? I can't see any. Also, I looked through the refs on Mighty Jill Off but I didn't see any interview not already included on her page (and as I've said, they're not RS). Filibusti (talk) 08:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Everything checks out, so I don't know any good reason to delete this one. It seems to have been improved somewhat since nomination. Bearian (talk) 23:12, 1 March 2011 (UTC) P.S. Mac World is a good a source as any. Bearian (talk) 23:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 13:33, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:34, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. The fact that her games are notable does not mean that she is automatically notable. The references that do qualify as WP:RS (MacWorld) may or may not go into detail of her games, but none goes into non-trivial detail of her. (The non-RS ones do, but yeah, they are not RS so it's irrelevant) Filibusti (talk) 08:21, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  Anthropy was featured as a host of the Indie Gamemaker Rant, a part of GDC's Games Summit; Game Set Watch interviewed her; Gamasutra interviewed her; 1UP.com's indie blog covers her presentation at the Indie Gamemaker Rant; Heavenly Symphony featured one of her games. Yet again, with minimal effort, I've found more than enough non-trivial demonstrations of her notability. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 09:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  Please check out the Rock, Paper, Shotgun (reliable source) links that I added, they clearly show Anthropy to be a well-known individual. --IndieGamesGermany (talk) 23:23, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.