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The result was redirect‎ to Appanoose Township, Franklin County, Kansas. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:11, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appanoose, Kansas[edit]

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This is plainly a larger locale, now represented perhaps by Appanoose Township; the various things named "Appanoose"— a creek, a school/museum, a church, a cemetery, and the supposed location of the post office— are spread out over a area some three miles north to south. It's been deleted from GNIS, and the spot, near the school, has nothing there. This review of the museum states that "Appanoose was never a town, but rather a rural community," and that's pretty much what I see; but a vague "community" about which we have pretty much no information is NN. I contemplated merger to the township, but the problem with that is that I have essentially no information as to the importance of these in the overall state governmental structure. If they are just administrative districts within the counties then the township articles should just point to a map/list in the county article. Mangoe (talk) 23:27, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Kansas. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:23, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Here's a description of what townships in Kansas do. It's not much, but probably best to just merge the unincorporated communities to the appropriate township. In many rural areas they're basically the same thing. Reywas92^Talk 02:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Appanoose Township, Franklin County, Kansas. Nothing can be said about the hamlet of Appanoose other than it was in Appanoose Township, briefly had a population of 13 (1890), later 15 (1900), there was a post office from 1857-1902, and there is an Appanoose cemetery there. The Appanoose Cemetery is near the Appanoose settlement; the school/museum and church are several miles away, elsewhere in the township. Most references to Appanoose are clearly talking about the township, not the village in the township. A stand-alone article cannot be supported. This is a good example, IMO, of where a merge up to a higher level can work very well. Firsfron of Ronchester 05:56, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • … Or where there was never any support for the subject at all in the first place. Gannett, which you have hyperlinked there, does not even support the claim of "hamlet". And the "douglas county" search term in your hyperlink is the wrong county.

    Appanoose; post village in Douglas County.

    Appanoose; township in Franklin County; area, 30 square miles; population, 630.

    — Gannett 1898, p. 28

    Andreas 1883, p. 602 and Blackmar 1912a, p. 681 have Pomona, Kansas as the first village in Franklin County in 1870, and Appanoose Township not even existing in 1857, as it "was organized May 17, 1871". The settlers, according to the relatively contemporary History by Andreas were settling "on the west branch of Appanoose Creek, and on the middle branch".

    Which makes Gannett's very next entry somewhat ironic.

    Appanoose; creek, a left-hand branch of Osage River in Franklin and Douglas counties

    — Gannett 1898, p. 28

    The USGS was making gazetteer errors even then, it seems. Contemporary Kansas State sources, such as Sims 1885, p. 147, clearly state Appanoose Creek to be a branch of the Marais des Cygnes River.

    I don't think that there's actually any evidence for a village. "Appanoose" was all either the Township after it was organized, or the Creek before. The actual hamlets in Franklin were, also ironically, Pansy, Kansas (AfD discussion) and Pleasant Hill, Kansas (AfD discussion), both in the Appanoose Creek valley according to Blackmar 1912b, pp. 441, 482; as I pointed out in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bowling Green, Kansas.

    The hamlet in Douglas County, per your search term, is in Blackmar 1912a, p. 90, by the way.

    Uncle G (talk) 10:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Here is a good newsclip that establishes that this is a township https://www.newspapers.com/image/323799441/?terms=Appanoose&match=1&clipping_id=110219208. Also it's been well established that these franklin county postoffices courthouses aren't always in towns. EG the Coburn post office that may have been in Pomona.James.folsom (talk) 00:22, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Another good article on the history of Apanoose township. https://www.newspapers.com/image/367052048/?terms=Appanoose&match=1&clipping_id=107747588 It never mentions a town called apanoose. It does mention that FD Coburn has a farm there, which all but proves that the Coburn post office was in Pamona. Further proving these post offices can be named anything and located anywhere.
• Redirect viable (and very likely) search term. Djflem (talk) 18:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Appanoose Township, Franklin County, Kansas per my comment above.James.folsom (talk) 00:22, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Appanoose Township, Franklin County, Kansas per the above discussion. I've created a history section in that article and copied over the single sentence about the post office that is the basis of this article.Jbt89 (talk) 02:05, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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