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The result was keep‎. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:29, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Basile High School[edit]

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This high school lacks notability. I could not find significant coverage in secondary, reliable sources, just trivial mentions in local newspapers. Per SCHOOLOUTCOMES, the general consensus is that high schools are not inherently notable. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools, and Louisiana. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete it then, and I'll stop wasting my time creating pages. EddieDean19 (talk) 00:18, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Comment: I originally BLARed this article, so I propose redirecting it back to Evangeline Parish Public Schools. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:20, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - I think this one could have been left a little longer before nomination, per WP:DEMOLISH, and already there is a WP:HEY case for keeping it. However, it is important to note that the sources on the page are largely local press. News reports and articles like these are primary sources, and so we don't currently have the multiple reliable independent secondary sources required for this to pass GNG, and the nom mentions SCHOOLOUTCOMES so notability is not presumed. However the school is 99 years old, and coverage is sustained over that period. Per WP:SUSTAINED Brief bursts of news coverage may not sufficiently demonstrate notability. However, sustained coverage is an indicator of notability. An indicator of notability is not a clear GNG pass, but it is what it says: a good indicator that this is notable. In addition to local press, I found mentions in books (but beware the Italian school of the same name). The book mentions were largely directories, local plans etc, or in some cases newspaper collections, e.g. [1]. Again, nothing for GNG but plenty for SUSTAINED. It aso gets included in the study in this paper [2] although that is because of the district rather than the school. Thus, all in all, I think there is good indication of notability here, even though it is not a clear GNG pass. It may be weak support, but it is still a keep for me. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 21:18, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Fair enough regarding demolish;  Self-trout. That said, as you've noted, I don't think this is a HEY case because, as you've noted, all of the sources are primary. SUSTAINED does not displace the GNG; like the GNG, it offers another presumption (an "indicator") that something (usually an event) may be notable. There might be an "indication" of notability here, but we still need SIGCOV in secondary sources to get past GNG. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:39, 28 January 2024 (UTC), struck 23:06, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. While breaking news is indeed considered primary, newspaper articles in general are not considered WP:PRIMARY as they are subject to editorial review, etc. The purpose of this is stated: Breaking-news reports often contain serious inaccuracies. As an electronic publication, Wikipedia can and should be up to date, but Wikipedia is not a newspaper and it does not need to go into all details of a current event in real time. That makes a lot of sense. What we are dealing with here is definitely not breaking news. Newspaper sources should not be dismissed wholesale as PRIMARY sources. Jacona (talk) 14:04, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Enough coverage to meet WP:GNG, as with pretty much any other secondary school in the western world. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. The connection to Newspapers.com from the Wikipedia Library has been restored after a short blip...and there are over 14,000 matches for "Basile High School". While it will take some time to go through these, it appears there is WP:SUSTAINED coverage from around the beginning of the 20th century to the present. While some of these are WP:ROUTINE, some are good sources that will count as significant coverage. This article will pass the general notability guideline.Jacona (talk) 12:16, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I've taken a look at a random sampling of newspaper articles from Newspapers.com, most of which appears to be WP:MILL coverage in the Basile Weekly; it seems that the Weekly has regular updates about the goings-on in the schools, largely what student clubs are doing and awards/achievements of students. Here's my analysis of some sources from the sampling:

  • MILL coverage of commencement
  • Primary source (proceedings of local school board meeting published in newspaper)
  • MILL coverage of student clubs
  • MILL coverage of student clubs
  • MILL coverage of school board refusing to pay bills and brief mention that the school should hire more janitors
  • MILL coverage of student clubs

  voorts (talk/contributions) 23:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Passes GNG. Bring back the SNG for schools so we can end this sort of time-draining nomination. Carrite (talk) 22:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

amen.Jacona (talk) 00:22, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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