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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 11:44, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Bartlett[edit]

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Contested PROD. This individual fails WP:GNG as he has not been featured in any reliable third-party media. He also fails WP:NFOOTY as he has not played in a competitive first-team match for a fully professional club, nor has he been the head coach for such a team in such a match. – Pee Jay 21:18, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. – Pee Jay 21:21, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:16, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Added an article published in Soccer Coach International, which is a globally distributed Soccer Coaching Publication, http://soccercoachinginternational.com/sci_en/. Ben has been twice published here and this is an independent journal. The 2nd article proposes a previously unpublished concept of the soccer player as the syllabus, a shift in youth coaching from the previous approach of the syllabus being the same for all. The following educational articles support such an approach:

http://www.postgradolinguistica.ucv.cl/dev/documentos/0,680,Syllabus%20Design.pdf http://www.tdx.cat/bitstream/handle/10803/1662/03.CHAPTER_3.pdf;jsessionid=60AF46566C80BEFA3D039C003D998B0C.tdx2?sequence=4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georg3Hartman (talk • contribs) 07:25, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

- These are not an indicator of notability. There are a great many academically published writers who do not have articles on Wikipedia, and with good reason. – PeeJay 07:30, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - It was proposed as evidence of reliable third party media with a concept that is articulated, within other education environments, as having value. Appreciate that not all published writers have a wikipedia article. User:Georg3Hartman —Preceding undated comment added 22:02, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - It's not third-party media if it's written by himself. Plus, any articles he's written won't be about him, which is what we require to satisfy the requirements of WP:GNG. If others have written about Bartlett and his work, that's fine, but not until then. – PeeJay 23:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      - The first article was written about Ben by an educationalist - http://www.integritysoccer.co.uk/uploads/3/0/6/0/3060532/coaching_behaviours.pdf - this was published in Soccer Coaching International - http://soccercoachinginternational.com/sci_en/ - a formally published soccer coaching journal.User:Georg3Hartman —Preceding undated comment added 09:07, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        A small article in a niche football coaching magazine doesn't really count, tbh. – Pee Jay 15:04, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Coach fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 15:15, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article is 14 pages in length and achieved the requirements suggested around articles written about Ben. In respect of being niche; the publication covers all areas of coaching the game of soccer and has global distribution. User:Georg3Hartman User talk:Georg3Hartman 18:25, 26th March 2013 (UTC)

He has also managed in The FA Women's Premier League (Chelsea FC & Colchester United FC); which, whilst not fully professional is within the Wikipedia Top Level Leagues proposed as required for notability. User:Georg3Hartman User talk: Georg3Hartman 18:32, 26th March 2013 (UTC)
Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 18:35, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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