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The result was delete. Nja²⁴⁷ 08:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ben White[edit]

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Non-notable rugby league player. Absolutely no effort seems to have happened to establish notability, and that violates the WikiProject Rugby league notability essay rule 9 when it presumes he is notable based upon the team he plays for. Also no references, the first page of Google search "Ben White rugby league" is some dodgy pages, while a Google News search the exact same sees a result for a rugby league player for Cardiff in England, not AMNRL (America).  The Windler talk  06:20, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. I disagree with the nominator's reasons, as, however much emphasis is used on the word "guidelines", and however legalistically the document is written, this is an essay, not a guideline, so can't be claimed to overrule WP:ATHLETE. Also the very first non-Wikipedia Google hit using the obvious search terms is a non-dodgy site confirming that the subject plays for this team. I do, however, think that this should be deleted as failing WP:ATHLETE, the AMNRL not being fully professional, and the general notability guideline, with no evidence of substantial coverage in independent reliable sources. I removed the WP:PROD tag from this article last year because a similar case had just been kept at AfD, but I don't believe that that "keep" reflects current consensus. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't mean to use guidelines, I forgot that the WP:ATHLETE is a guideline and not rules which then I presumed guidelines was under that, I meant essay, as in not a guideline but consensus reached by the WikiProject. I was trying to emphasise that you could discredit the essay in the AFD if necessary, but just to help put a rugby league persepective on WP:ATHLETE where WP:RL judges that not playing in a first-grade competition is equivalent to not playing in a professional league as in WP:ATHLETE.  The Windler talk  10:19, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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