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The result was speedy delete per WP:CSD#G3, blatant hoax. A7 and G10 were also plausible. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:42, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamin Good[edit]

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This page certainly doesn't belong here; however, there is a claim to notability. "HE is infomous for his heroic actions, many of which children's lives have been saved." And while I believe this is a hoax, it doesn't seem to be blatant. This is an almost certain delete as lacking notability (even if the lion event was true he would only be notable for one event). Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:06, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that this page has been repeatedly recreated so I would like to see this deleted and salted. Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:09, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete A7 as the article makes no credible claim of significance or importance. Giving CPR to a lion at the Houston Zoo and being "most likely the most influential teacher in Houston" are not credible, and those are the only two claims of significance in the article. A7 requires that an article make at least one credible claim of significance in order to avoid speedy deletion, and this article does not. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 19:20, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I considered nominating this for an A7 myself but I figure I'll let someone else chime in before being unnecessarily bold :). ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 19:22, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree because it states that it needs to make a credible claim of "significance" not a credible claim of "notability". The threshhold is different; however, I don't believe it is defined anywhere. Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:27, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) I think you're misreading the guideline. A "credible claim of significance or importance" would be precisely the foundation on which notability would rest, and that is what CSD A7 looks for. Things like: "He was voted Best Teacher in Houston by a jury of his peers" would be a credible claim of significance/importance, and would represent a foundation for establishing notability. Absent any such credible claim, CSD A7 applies. This article does not have any such claim. Its claims of significance are blatantly incredible. Either way, this will obviously be deleted, I'm just trying to save us 7 days, hehehe. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 19:38, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point; however, the guidelines specifically say

This is distinct from verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability.

AND

The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source or does not qualify on Wikipedia's notability guidelines

Although, it does say

The criterion does apply if the claim of significance or importance given is not credible.

This confuses me now as to the difference between a credible and uncredible claim of significance. Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:41, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:34, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Now, I believe the article can be speedy deleted as a more than obvious Hoax due to the addition of "Good led a race riot with his black side kick Martin Luther King Jr. and killed 394 orphans in the conflict. He went to jail for 13 years and came out with several tattoos and the nick name "King Cobra"." Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! Well, credit them for creativity. Would you like the honors? :) ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 19:39, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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