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The result was delete. —Darkwind (talk) 03:50, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Calcio Italia[edit]

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Appears to be a non-notable defunct magazine. The only coverage I've been able to find is around that it managed to publish 100 and 150 issues which is probably not enough to satisfy WP:GNG. The Dissident Aggressor 13:45, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - DissidentAggressor where did you get the info that it is defunct? The article also has a ref about it reaching 150 issues, which, for a monthly magazine, is 12+ years. The corresponding Italian wiki article also says nothing about it being defunct, and links to a subscriber login for digital issues. —Мандичка^YO 😜 14:00, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The official link that was in the article was dead. The domain http://www.calcioitalia.com/ is now a sports gear shop. The article Anthem Publishing lists it as a former publication (without a source). Maybe it is not defunct, or maybe it is defunct as a magazine, converting to a paywalled website. then we just need to satisfy GNG and change the article to be about the website. Note that the login for digital issues is published by Exact Editions Ltd which is not the publisher of the magazine according to the article. Anniversary announcements for the magazine probably don't meet GNG but we can keep looking. The Dissident Aggressor 14:04, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note that I have amended my original nom to include the 150 number. The Dissident Aggressor 14:08, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Calcio Italia" literally means Italian Football, and the article on the 150th issue says the original title of the magazine was "Football Italia." Italian Wiki has this website in external links: http://www.football-italia.net/ - —Мандичка^YO 😜 14:21, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure that's the same entity? http://www.football-italia.net/ makes no mention to subscriptions or magazines and is published by yet another company, Tiro Media Ltd 2015. Based on that, it appears to be a website unconnected to the magazine. Either way, the point isn't whether they're defunct or not, rather whether the magazine is notable. The Dissident Aggressor 14:25, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh it looks like it is defunct but back issues still available. It could still meet GNG though.[1] I don't know why the Italian version of the article links to football-italia.net. —Мандичка^YO 😜 14:28, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, this is pretty twisted. So far we have two articles a couple years apart saying the magazine is not dead yet, and one a bit later saying it is dead. That's probably not GNG material yet but I'll add that ref to the article. The Dissident Aggressor 14:31, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 16:33, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 16:16, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No evidence of notability. Ashbeckjonathan (talk) 01:30, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Even if the magazine is dead, notability is not temporary and this magazine was on sale for a good few years and had a pretty wide circulation. They even sold it in Australia for a bit. – Pee Jay 10:09, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How does being on sale for any length of time satisfy WP:GNG? The Dissident Aggressor 18:09, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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