The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Delete, but permit recreation AFTER the primary in May clarification: should she win or otherwise become notable DGG (talk) 22:31, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

clarification--can be userified, but not kept after that unless there's additional good material.DGG (talk) 17:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Carmen L. Robinson[edit]

Carmen L. Robinson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

An individual who is running in a mayoral primary fails to pass notability guidelines. Sources given are focused on other individuals with only brief, trivial mentions of the subject. Grsz11 19:17, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

She is not "considering" running for mayor. She has announced her candidacy, and will be partcipating in televised debates. This article was already deleted once, and I was told I could recreate it after she announced her candidacy. So that's what I did. Grundle2600 (talk) 21:08, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So she's running in a primary. Still not notable. See Mark DeSantis. Grsz11 21:17, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, you were not told you could put it in the mainspace simply because she announces. You were explicitly told the exact opposite. Grsz11 21:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I made absolutely no contributions to the content of this article—I only userfied it the first time around, and would have no objection to its being "restored to userspace" if the outcome is delete. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:01, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • You are correct that it would not be good to do an early closure as long as there is an objection. I believe you and possibly the original author are the only objections. If both of you consent to userfication before another person objects, then it would be okay. However, I'll understand if you stick to your guns. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 03:57, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'll withdraw my objection if and only if the original author does so explicitly. Otherwise, I feel s/he should have the full five days to make his/her case.—S Marshall Talk/Cont 08:39, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


S Marshall, you said, "This is a pretty clear case of someone using Wikipedia as a promotional tool." You are wrong. I don't know this person. I have never met this person. I just happen to live in the same city, and have read quite a few articles about her, and thought the subject was interesting. I'm not even in the same political party as her. She's a Democrat and I'm a Liberetarian. Grundle2600 (talk) 13:17, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • There are very few reasons why userfication would be denied (only for things like attack pages), but it should be on the original author's request.—S Marshall Talk/Cont 08:42, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I concur with not allowing this in article space without a review. We've been throught his twice, once at PROD, once here. Let's not go through this again. If she wins, it'll be a no-brainer. If she leads in the polls after the primary for a significant period of time, she will likely receive enough coverage to pass deletion review. If she wins the primary but trails or is neck-and-neck in the polls for the main election, she may receive enough significant coverage to be Wiki-notable. If she does not win the primary, it is unlikely she will reach Wiki-notability unless something else happens that generates significant press coverage. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 13:43, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.