The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Kurykh 02:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Celeryville Christian School[edit]

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Previously speedy-tagged under WP:CSD#A7 (non-notable). Speedy deletion disputed on talk page. Deletion of school articles is rarely uncontroversial, which suggests AFD-path should be taken rather than CSD-path. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:00, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Neutrality^talk 01:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. CSD contest shows no sign of notability, just WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS arguments. Giggy _U^CP 01:31, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete No assertion of notability, reads like a directory entry. Rackabello 01:44, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment You're right Ceyockey, I've been told by several admins that articles on schools are inherently not CSD criteria. I haven't been able to find an actual Wikipedia policy supporting this, but this seems to be the predominant practice. I've attempted to speedy several articles on schools that said little more than ____________ is a school or were blatantly promotional and their CSD's were all declined. Its interesting as I've nominated articles on organizations other than schools with the exact same problems (i.e. ___________ is a club or were clearly promotional) and these were speedily deleted without discussion. Rackabello 01:44, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment WP:CSD is quite specific on what articles may be deleted using the process, and quite clear that controversial deletions should go to AFD. Schools are not listed under A7 as one of the things subject to speedy, and as the nom has noted they are rarely uncontroversially deleted. --Dhartung | Talk 06:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:NOT#DIRECTORY - Not the place to keep schools that have no established notability Corpx 02:59, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete due to lack of notability attributed using independent sources. --Dhartung | Talk 06:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• comment I am not normally a fan of any article on elementary and junior high articles on their face, but I believe a 77 year old school will have some notability somewhere, and am glad this was not speedied. In the case of schools, I just think speedying is way too hasty. Good night all. Chris 06:47, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• comment One of the things I am, really, actually, and will update soon, is the extensive and rich history of Celeryville Christian School. A lot can, and has, happened in 77 years to this school. I do realize all these arguments for keeping it an encyclopedia and not a directory, and if you really want to, I have no power to stop you. But does simply having notable alumni or being the scene of a majors news story give it notability? Peace. - Xexeter Talk 01:09 24 July 2007

Question Why does this article have the school's address and phone number on it? --ROGER ^TALK 09:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• reply, many school articles do, it's even a function of the school infobox. Oddly enough, this seems to be the one instance it's okay with Wikipedia. Chris 15:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, mainly because other high schools appear to automatically qualify (yeah, it's a K-12 school and I know about WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS), and 77 years is a pretty long time for this type of Christian school to be around. Most Christian schools are of fairly recent vintage, with the exception of Catholic schools. Longevity might be an argument for notability here. Realkyhick 18:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• This is a K-8 school :) Corpx 18:37, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete no assertion or verification of notability in independent sources. VanTucky ^(talk) 22:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete unless expanded and sourced I agree it is possible that a school this old may be notable, and look forward to seeing the expanded article. DGG (talk) 02:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete per DGG, my words exactly. Bearian 19:10, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. —Chris 07:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete No assertion of notability. Another run of the mill school. Eusebeus 21:12, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge and redirect to Celeryville, Ohio. The whole "WP:NOT#DIRECTORY" argument is blatantly false. We host directory listings of albums, films, television shows, and even what time television shows have aired. Burntsauce 22:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Directories are designed to be comprehensive, regardless of the notability of the items being listed. For instance, the telephone directory doesn't exclude people because they are not well known or have not made significant contributions to a field of study. That matter of inclusion criteria is one of the principles behind the "Wikipedia is not a directory" policy. That's not to say that there aren't a lot of cases that are borderline or blatent violations of WP:NOT that have survived here for a long time; every article is to be taken on its own merits. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 17:00, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.