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The result was delete. NW (Talk) 03:45, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chechen Republic of Ichkeria national football team[edit]

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Lacking notability, fails WP:V, all the news coverage are NF-Board statistics. Has been previously deleted, but the article was restored under different name and with some sources, so it probably needs to be discussed one more time. Blacklake (talk) 10:08, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 12:54, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The sources are not "all NF Board statistics"; they have been taken from several different sources. In any case, why should statistics from the NF Board be discounted? The previous article made no attempt to differentiate between Chechnya and the Chechen diaspora. Also, why should some teams, who have played fewer games than this one, be allowed to retain their articles? I have tried to ensure that relevant information, properly sourced, is in this article, unlike other articles. Surely the point is not how "notable" people think the content is, but whether the content is referenced and accurate. Hammersfan, 24/09/09, 13.52 BST

First of all, NF-Board sources are not independent. They may be reliable, but they are still not independent. And independent media, who write about those competitionm do not seem to provide significant coverage for this very team. In other words NS-Board is notable, but some teams may be not. --Blacklake (talk) 15:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, no organisation can be called independent. The reason that there doesn't seem to be much coverage is that they haven't played since 2007. That does not negate the relevance of the article. If you want to talk about the coverage of the media as a whole on non-FIFA football competitions, then ALL of the non-FIFA teams should be deleted. Are you suggesting that? As regards your note below, I am aware that the teams WHO HAVE NOT PLAYED GAMES have been deleted, but there are others (West Papua and South Moluccas for example) who have played fewer games than Ichkeria but have not been deleted. If those articles are kept, then this one should be too. Hammersfan 25/09/09, 09.47 BST

• delete per nom, it does fail notability test. The content maybe referenced and accurate but it is hardly of interest that an amateur football team played four matches. New seeker (talk) 13:00, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

note: Then if that is the argument, the other similar articles should also be deleted. Why has no one put them up for deletion? Hammersfan 24/09/09, 14.07 BST

At least one has been deleted. --Blacklake (talk) 15:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably, the other teams should be deleted as well unless they deserve some notability (such as a famous person took part in a team). The umbrella article UNPO_Cup should stay, although it lacks references. It is more than sufficient for encyclopaedic aims New seeker (talk)

Stu.W UK (talk · contribs) had a little binge a few months ago and put a large number up for deletion, the vast majority of which were indeed deleted. You can find a record of the results here. GiantSnowman 09:19, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep Racepacket (talk) 13:10, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - non-notable, nothing has really changed since the first AfD. GiantSnowman 10:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. GiantSnowman 10:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - a non-notable "national football team" Spiderone 10:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete lacks of any sort of notability. Also, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not an argument to be used on AfDs. --Angelo (talk) 11:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • But do you not agree then that if this is "not notable", then the other examples I've listed must be equally non notable, and should also then be deleted? Or is there something about it being Chechnya that people find "non-notable" Hammersfan, 25/09/09, 13.41 BST
    • We aren't debating other articles, though, we're debating this one, and the decision to keep or delete is based solely on the merits of this article. Whether or not other similar articles are also non-notable can be debated separately but has no bearing on this debate, so there's no point repeatedly bringing it up -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.