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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 07:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ChessDB[edit]

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a google search of ChessDB [1] returns not more then 500 pages. Further more this project was started on 13 dec 2006 which makes me think that the guy uses wikipedia to advertise his product. KaiFei 12:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete unsourced WilyD 13:52, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - non notable. -- Cate | _Talk 14:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, fails WP:V. Recury 15:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete According to nominated user. see WP:NOTE. to that, It lacks its better sources. so this article should be deleted. -- Korean alpha for knowledge (Talk / Contributions) 15:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete unsourced advert-like article with way too many external links (encyclopedia articles should not link to join mailing lists).¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 18:29, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of software deletions. -- John Vandenberg 23:38, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete just another NN chess program --Steve _(Slf67) ^talk 23:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete fails WP:V - non notable. SkierRMH 04:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Reanme not delete I'm the orignal author of this. First I would like it renamed to 'ChessDB - a free open-source chess database'. Of the 500+ Google entries, few have anything to do with this open-source project. There is a domain chessdb.com, which is not related to this at all. The comment about 'advertising a project' is a bit inaccurate, as this is totally free and open-source. As for it being just another chess program, there are very few open-source chess databases. This is a fork from Scid, on which development stops years ago. Yes there are thosands of chess programs, but this is not typical at all. It is not designed to play chess with for a start. As for it not being verifiable, the source code can be downloaded free or a windows installer can be downloaded free. I thought the external links were useful, but take the point particlaurly about the mailing list one. Could it be renamed as I request and give me a few days to get it into shape before revisiting this deleltion process? Drkirkby 08:10, 10 January 2007 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drkirkby (talk • contribs) 08:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC).Drkirkby 08:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Please see the deletion guide for guidelines on renaming and editing while this runs. Basically, feel free to get it into shape, don't rename without reading the guide. This will probably run for 5 days (unless the result is clear earlier). Improving the article may have an impact here, but your modifications may be deleted if the result is negative. As a scid user, I am aware of ChessDB. I don't know if it meets WP:SOFTWARE - is ChessDB (not scid) included in major distributions such as Debian, Fedora, or NetBSD? Are there non-trivial reviews, guides, etc in publications written by independent parties (chess magazines, etc)? It is essential that independent sources write about the program. The fork is really quite recent, so it is possible that it has not yet achieved sufficient notability. I am neutral. skip (t / c) 08:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • A random comment: "ChessDB - a free open-source chess database" is an inappropriate article title; we don't put content-based specifiers in the title unless they're necessary for disambiguation (see Naming conventions). You'll note we have Blender (software), not "Blender 3D - the free open-source 3D modelling, rendering, compositing and video editing package". Would be a bit tiring to write, don't you think? And let's not even go into what the proper name of Emacs should be... "the miraculous do-it-all package that also seems to have a text editor somewhere"? --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 12:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, and ask Drkirkby to remember that ad articles don't have to be selling something for-profit. It is entirely possible to "promote" open-source programs and charities, and those violate WP:NOT a soapbox just like corporate spam ads do. Seraphimblade 09:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I'm pretty certain I've seen this on speedy deletion before, I was just too coffeed to make a decision at the time. Jaranda appears to have speedy deleted this before without specifying a reason (I suspect the slightly promotional approach). --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 12:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete apt-cache search chessdb on Debian comes up empty. No distro inclusion and the project was started in December... Not really famous enough now, but welcome back when the project is famous enough. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 12:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• You might as well delete it now Clearly this is not going to be in a Debian release yet, which a couple seems to think sets some level of acceptance, since it under a month old. It might as well be deleted now. I'm sure it will make it into Debian at some point, as one of my other projects atlc has made it into both Debian and NetBSD dostros without any input from me. That package is far more specialist and technical in nature, but have been around a long time. ChessDB has had over 800 downloads in under a month, so I believe it proabably will get there. But given the criteria, it might as well be deleted now to save wear on anyones keyboards. Drkirkby 18:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• • Comment. You can place the ((db-author)) tag on the article if you'd like it to be deleted before the end of the discussion, that will bring to an admin's attention that the article's creator requests deletion. The article can still be recreated once this program does reach the WP:SOFTWARE guidelines-just remember that it still has to be neutral and all information must be sourced! Seraphimblade 18:40, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• • Comment A site dedicated to Free Chess Programs says on its frontpage "ChessDB knocks off Playchess from Pick of the Best" then has quite a nice review. I have nothing to do with that site. I'm sure it will get there, even if it does not meet the criteria at the minute. Drkirkby 15:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.