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The result was DELETE. Hoax, or fork of Delhi United FC. Morwen - Talk 21:54, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DFC Delhi Football Club[edit]

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Article is a recreation of Delhi United FC and I dont want a merge because there is nothing useful on this page that would do anything to the Delhi United FC article. The article also fails WP:V.--Arsenalkid700 (talk) 16:59, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 16:59, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, you make a point but it is weird because it seems that the original creator was talking about a different club because Delhi United has never played in the National Football League or I-League 2nd Division. Unless of course that is all false information. Anyway I would prefer not to merge the Delhi United article to the DFC page as that would also transfer the page history etc. I guess that would mean that I need to change the reason for deletion. Cheers. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 20:54, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, let's work out this out. Are they in fact the same club? The only thing that they appear to have in common is that they are both located in New Delhi or Delhi. However, DFC Delhi Football Club has been unsourced since it was created so will fail WP:V if no sources can be found. What is also concerning is that the very first entry appears to be have content that is copied and pasted from another Wikipedia article - I haven't figured which one[1]. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. I actually only assumed they were about the same club due to many similarities like Delhi United being the heading on both articles, both articles say that Atul Anand is captain (he was captain of Delhi United in 2011), they are both sponsored by Adidas (Delhi United is the only club other than New Delhi Heros to be sponsored by Adidas), and looking at the squad I recognize many players who play for Delhi United and follow the same path (example being Goutam Debnath who moved from Mohammedan to Delhi United). Also I am guessing that the original creator probably copied and pasted from another article and then cut and pasted. Its a normal thing for editors who are just starting. That is really the only thing I can find for a reason. Anyway yes the article will probably in the end fail V so I shall add that to the opening. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 21:29, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK, well, I have struggled so far to find good sources for the name "DFC Delhi Football Club" (supposing that is the name). The club apparently plays (or played) in the NFL Premier Division but when I follow the link in the article to National Football League (India), I find no mention of DFC Delhi Football Club in the text there or in the external links (I particularly looked at the rediff one, which has some season archives linked). Has Wikiproject Football been notified? Members could helpfully weigh in here. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:58, 15 September 2012 (UTC) P.S. Ah, yes, I see they have. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:59, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I would check here for every table of every season of the National Football League (Template:National Football League seasons (India)). There is no mention of DFC Delhi Football Club. Also I am the one that created that section which states the former clubs from every season. They have not played. No I have not notified WikiProject Football on the talk page of WPF but I did add this AfD to WPF. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 22:19, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Just noting that User:Alok614 created this article and another article, Alok Erik Kujur, on the same day 24 August 2009, minutes apart (Alok Erik Kujur was created at 16:14 and DFC Delhi Football Club at 16:26). Alok Erik Kujur was speedy deleted as a blatant hoax in which he is described as playing for Delhi FC and Delhi Football Club, among others. I suggest that this article was a hoax too. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:04, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, weird. There is a facebook page for Alok Erik Kujur and it is quite obvious that he is a football fan and he is from Delhi. This is only a guess but I am guessing that he played for some random Delhi State League club called Delhi FC and he decided to create an article for himself and his team and he did a copy and paste and made some things up in the hope that no one could tell.--Arsenalkid700 (talk) 23:29, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OMG IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW! Air India FC!!!!!! Look here. This is a version of the Air India article from 6 August 2009 and look at the original version of the DFC Delhi Football Club article from 24 August 2009. Notice the huge chunks from each article that are exactly the same. I think this case is just about almost over. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 23:36, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well done! I'll make a !vote shortly. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:07, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers mate, good job by you looking at the OC's history. Also I noticed that it said they won the 1990-2000 NFL 2nd Division which I remember was Air India. Plus a few players were the same etc. Either way, good job to you as well! --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 01:53, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as a likely WP:HOAX, certainly failing WP:V and WP:GNG with WP:COPYWITHIN issues. Per the discussion above, this article began life as a substantial copy and paste of the Air India article at the time without attribution. It was created by User:Alok614 minutes after he created the hoax article Alok Erik Kujur, which references Delhi FC / Delhi Football Club / DF Club (created in the same way as a copy and paste of the Christiano Ronaldo article and then altered). I can find no credible sources to show that a club by this name exists so it fails WP:V and WP:GNG and I conclude it is likely to be one of a pair of hoaxes created by Alok614. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 12:36, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - possible hoax, certainly non-notable. GiantSnowman 09:46, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - possible hoax per the discussion above between Malcolm and Arsenalkid. Though I think it's sad that a hoak could survive on Wikipedia for 3 years. Mentoz86 (talk) 11:41, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If you think this is surprising then go scower the football wiki pages (mainly for countries like India, Indonesia etc) and you will find many more like these. Cheers. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 15:18, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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