The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete without prejudice. If this article were about a Pokemon I would have closed it as "no consensus" but it's an unsourced biography of a living person. I looked through the entire history and no version of this article ever had sources. It has been suggested that a sourced article could be written so if somebody wishes to do so then be my guest. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:30, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

David Moritz[edit]

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According to WP:BIO footnote #6 (Wikipedia:BIO#cite_note-note5-5) just being listed on IMDB isn't enough to meet notability requirements for a BLP. I can't find any 3rd party sources for this person, and those would be necessary for inclusion? Hes listed as an editor for most(all?) of these films, I can't find any 3rd party source discussing him in context of his editing carrier or anything else. This page has been around for quite some time, but I don't see any reason for inclusion? Speedy was declined so we'll proceed with AfD to decide. — raeky t 18:37, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - sources are available through Google (ex [1]). Nikkimaria (talk) 21:33, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I looked but couldn't really find any, I found a picture of him at some award show in a big group of pictures of people who attended, but that was it. Not sure a press release about him being a speaker at some event is really enough to establish notability though.. It says hes award winning but I can't find what awards? Maybe that would be enough if a source could be found but it also could just be an exaggeration and hes not a winner of a notable award? — raeky t 01:31, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Pictures was in this set: [2] but I have no way of knowing if this is the same guy? And the website for that organization does not list him as staff anymore [3] nor is he mentioned at GLAAD... Only place a David Moritz is mentioned on glaad.org is in a press release [4] which says hes of "Society Awards" and the website for Society Awards does not give a bio of him so how are we to know this is the same guy? The name David Moritz isn't THAT uncommon. There is a list of press articles about the company though, several mention a David Moritz [5]. So I suspect by the picture in the article you listed which does sound like him is NOT the same guy that is pictured as being part of Society Awards, so we can assume none of those are sources for him. — raeky t 01:40, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Um, what? The information included in the source I gave matches that given in the article, so it would seem to be the same guy. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:51, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Yes but my point is there's not much else out there, a press release for him being a speaker I don't think meets the basic requirements for inclusion... which is all that "article" is. — raeky t 02:11, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:48, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 21:04, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - though the article could obviously use improvement, the subject appears to be notable. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.