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The result was keep. Consensus is that GNG is met, if only just. Fenix down (talk) 15:58, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Despite passing WP:NFOOTY as he played for 70 minutes in the Greek Second Division + 14 minutes in Segunda Division, a search on Google gives barely any results for the player in question. HawkAussie (talk) 06:33, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep A sole Google search is not a functional WP:BEFORE search. Articles on Serrano [1] [2] (and a list of all articles where he's mentioned in that publication here - don't think he was the perp, though) [3] [4]. Other articles as well which probably aren't primary/independent, and I didn't search in Greek. SportingFlyer T·C 08:15, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 08:27, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - meets WP:NFOOTBALL and likely meets WP:GNG from a very quick Google News search. Has nominator (again) even bothered with WP:BEFORE??? GiantSnowman 08:29, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep passes WP:NFOOTY and subject is only 24 years and is currently playing.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:31, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - NFOOTY passed, career ongoing. Plus GNG potential as noted above. R96Skinner (talk) 11:01, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteKeep - Article about professional footballer who has made 5 substitutes appearances (totaling less than 100 minutes of play) in fully-pro leagues. All of the online Spanish- and Greek-language coverage I can find is passing mentions (e.g., he was injured, he scored a goal, he signed a contract) or database entries. The Greek-language coverage is typical (dozens of brief mentions of his signing, but nothing coverage his play for the club - which consisted of a few second half cameos). Moreover, I have no clue where he is playing now, if at all. I don't think NFOOTBALL's presumption of notability should hold here. Updated due to SportingFlyer's note below about L'Esportiu. I hadn't searched Catalan-language sources other than the ones identified above (oops!), and this newspaper has a few articles (e.g., [5] and [6], ) that go into enough depth to get us to GNG-compliance. Jogurney (talk) 16:50, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, according to Soccerway he is back in Spain with fourth-tier Sant Andreu. I've updated the infobox. Jogurney (talk) 16:53, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete – I agree with Jogurney. This is a game report that discusses Serrano scoring a goal; it's not WP:SIGCOV of Serrano as a player or as a person; there's more information about the goal and the game than there is about Serrano. This is about the team struggling with injuries, in which Serrano's injury is mentioned; also not SIGCOV of Serrano. This is a two-paragraph signing announcement. Plenty of brief mentions like [7] but I'm not finding any GNG sources. – Levivich 03:40, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Disagree with the delete !voters on the sigcov - more than enough sources to write an article on him. There's more out there as well - found [8] very quickly. SportingFlyer T·C 08:15, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Unless I'm mistaken, the entirety of that article translates to:
Chosen last Saturday to complete the call against Oviedo, David Serrano returns to work with the first team in Girona, as he did last season, when he made his debut in the second A before being transferred to Badalona. "I'm very happy because I wanted to go back to the first team. Working with humility is how things come about," said Serrano. "It's a second chance. Now is my time and I have to take it as much as I can." With a profile that adapts well to the lane, Serrano admits that the transfer to Badalona was not entirely productive (371 minutes in seven games) and is very pleased with Peralada's performance: "The team is very good and we are all surprised at the work of the team and the technical body. We're really looking forward to continuing on top." Serrano participated in yesterday's training along with Marc Carbó.
Two sentences in the journalist's own voice (the first and the last); six sentences that are quotes from the article subject; one sentence that is a statement attributed to the article subject. l can't see that as SIGCOV. – Levivich 18:20, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- We clearly focus on different things when assessing WP:SIGCOV. This article lends notability since what seems to be a decent news rag is writing an article specifically on him, and can be used to flesh out the Wikipedia article. It's not really an interview-style article in the "let's profile this random athlete." Plus, it's not as if it's the only article we're using to establish notability. SportingFlyer T·C 04:12, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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