The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I'm seeing legitimate greivances about move-warring and premature creation of articles about films that are announced but not really notable. Anyone move-warring may consider this a warning against doing so. But we cannot judge this specific case based on anything besides notability, and there's consensus here that the topic is now notable. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:26, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Diary of a Wimpy Kid (2021 film)[edit]

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Diary of a Wimpy Kid (2021 film) (3d nomination)

This article is being move-warred into article space after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diary of a Wimpy Kid (2021 film) (2nd nomination). Admins User:Vanamonde93 and User:Liz have both moved it back to draft space and said not to move it back into article space until it is released. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:09, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:09, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:09, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:09, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Then shouldn't this be dealt through WP:RFPP? It sounds like the last WP:AFD from a month ago is nothing different here. – The Grid (talk) 23:30, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• I just don't understand why you want this article to be deleted for the third time. I understand why it was deleted the second time because there was not a lot of information about Diary of a Wimpy Kid (2021), but since that deletion, there have been multiple reliable sources plus a trailer of the film. Besides, I don't remember Turning Red's article getting deleted because the movie hasn't come out yet. Also, more clips and other promotional material could surface before the film premiers on December 3, 2021. So, in conclusion, deleting Diary of a Wimpy Kid (2021 film)'s Wikipedia article would not really help. - ZX2006XZ (talk) 0:16, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

• It looks like you're not understanding the Wikipedia article guidelines through the WP:AfC process. The process has been to draftify (note: this is also my vote) the article until there are sufficient resources. A new trailer doesn't suffice this requirement - please read WP:NFILMS – The Grid (talk) 00:26, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Draftify - as per earlier discussions. Then prevent creation in mainspace unless approved by an admin. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 08:57, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: The article has improved since its last deletion including some more references. SoyokoAnis - talk 15:15, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep not really seeing any grounds for deletion outside of wikidrama, which should always be ignored. Artw (talk) 16:33, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify until it is ready. There is so many films and series that futured. The worst I saw was late(ish) 2023. There needs to be conversation. All you hear is aw they did. so I'll do it argument. Its really getting out of hand. scope_creep^Talk 17:25, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep this article has plenty of reliable sources, and with WP:NFF updated, I believe it meets the criteria required. Iamnoahflores (talk) 18:28, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep There's now enough coverage from independent, reliable sources that justify keeping the article. Waddles 🗩 🖉 22:33, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The movie is coming out next month and it's part of a major franchise. Why delete it? Voicebox64 (talk) 22:49, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The film is less than a month away from release by a major company and has gotten coverage from multiple sources. It isn't WP:TOOSOON at this point. Feels like the nomination was just about the edit war which should be handled elsewhere. DonaldD23 talk to me 01:04, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I won't evaluate the current state of this article but it has been moved around so much, it makes me dizzy. I haven't seen this happen so much with an upcoming film before and I hope this doesn't become the new normal. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:35, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I'm amazed of the many kept votes due to fear of deletion. The issue: is the article ready for mainspace? If not, it will go back to the draftspace. – The Grid (talk) 03:12, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment to User:Liz - Yes, I think that this is the new normal, although there is discussion at the film notability talk page about whether to revise the guidelines for upcoming films. In particular, this is the new normal for large-budget animated films. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:06, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment to User:The Grid - Yes, but some editors think that move-warring is the way to get upcoming films in article space. Robert McClenon (talk) 06:06, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  It's just weird seeing the votes come in that don't address the issue of why it's at AfD. I want to assume good faith but looking at ZX2006XZ's talk page, they have been warned previously about moving articles from draft to main space. They actually have been warned about it on the admin noticeboard on September 23. Liz even warned the user when they moved the article back to mainspace on October 28. Competence is required here and this demonstrates the opposite. – The Grid (talk) 12:47, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep The film is set for release less than a month away now. Keeping it in article space is beneifical as it's easier for readers to find and thus more likely the article will be improved. NemesisAT (talk) 11:57, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep As everyone else has stated, the film isn’t even that far away from being released, and like NemesisAT pointed out, we also might as keep it as it is so that way the page is easier to find for editors who are looking to get the page readily completed in preparation of when the film finally comes out. I don’t really see a good reason to draftify it as the page has received more reliable sources and obviously will meet the requirements of covering a notable topic. Bombastic Brody (talk) 12:20, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I personally don't see why this article should be deleted. The movie's coming out in a month anyway, and we'll probably get more information about it later this month. (shrug) Sameristic42 (talk) 17:06, 5 November 2021 (UTC) — Sameristic42 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
• Keep Like I said, there have been multiple reliable sources, and more information in the form of marketing has yet to come. ZX2006XZ (talk) 21:47, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep — There seems to be an abundance of reliable sources used in the article. Celestina007 (talk) 22:35, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep — I think that article is ready to mainspace and the movie is going to release next month. Gellerman (talk) 10:43, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Because I believe the article has been improved and it has also received coverage in multiple sources. As mentioned above as well, since it's going to be released next month so I think it's better to keep it in the main space because I'm sure a lot of people will be searching about the movie and editors can also improve it more if it's available in the main space. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by IamJayYas (talk • contribs) 05:12, 7 November 2021 (UTC) — IamJayYas (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
• Comment Bringing this to AfD again was a mistake, consensus was already established 3 months ago and all that was needed was a page rotection. Avilich (talk) 14:57, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Yeah, I agree. I did mention WP:RFPP with the first comment on here as it seems to be an issue with one editor with when articles should be moved to mainspace. – The Grid (talk) 16:26, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Coming at this from a third party view (as I am not familiar with the wikidrama and move-warring associated with this article), to me it seems that this article is well-sourced and the film is definitely notable enough to have its own article due to its (again) well-sourced nature and popularity of the franchise. It could still use a bit of improving, but what article doesn't? ArojamDharkon (talk) 18:24, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• The Most Obvious Keep in Cheese Touch History.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 16:59, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.