- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) I'm closing this one as keep. Otherwise, it'll just be relisted, and the sources provided by the only interested editor seems to prove GNG. The article looks fairly well sourced. (non-admin closure) ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 12:31, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails WP:NMUSIC, not a particularly notable ensemble, only claim to fame is that the individual artists were named for winning non-major awards. Jon Kolbert (talk) 02:43, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 03:57, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ghana-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 03:57, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, DopeNation is well known music duo in the country. I do understand you by the non major award they currently have. But then my point is they are well known both individually and as a team (DopeNation). They’ve produced for big acts in Ghana’s music entertainment. Such as; Shatta Wale http://www.ghanamotion.com/shatta-wale-commander-bush-prod-b2/, Ebony Reigns http://www.pulse.com.gh/entertainment/music/music-video-ebony-poison-feat-gatdoe-id6095254.html, Pappy Kojo https://kubilive.com/meet-twistdopekidtwist-the-producer-behind-pappykojos-hit-song-nana-ama/, etc.
At the moment, the article is still being worked on. Kwamevaughan (talk) 13:24, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Article claims they had a single on a Ghana's national music chart and thus would meet notability for artists, but the sources used do not support that claim. Acebulf (talk) 16:14, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- I did a quick search for anything that supported that claim, but nothing was found. As noted below, the author of the page has since removed that claim from the article. Jon Kolbert (talk) 19:43, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have revisited the page, as much sources can't be pulled to back this up, I have removed the statement. Kindly re=check the article. Many thanks. Kwamevaughan (talk) 18:17, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Jon Kolbert: Hello, I managed to pull up a major award half of the duo was nominated for. “Ghana Music Honours 2017” with reference to support it. Thank you. Kwamevaughan (talk) 08:25, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Kwamevaughan: The article's references seem to be mostly trivial coverage of the group. Has any news done an article talking about their life or their music as a whole? There needs to be something like that for the article to be notable. Can you look at the criteria at WP:NMUSIC and see which ones the group qualifies for, so that sources can be pulled that confirm it? Acebulf (talk) 19:56, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Acebulf: I’m pulling sources on their music and personal life. I’m not connected to them so I think Inwill throw in for other Ghanaian wikipeians to contribute to this.
Also I will check on the guideline and get back to you ASAP. Kwamevaughan (talk) 08:25, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Jon Kolbert: *@Acebulf: In reference to WP:NMUSIC The ensemble "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself."
Links: http://livefmghana.com/2017/10/10/introduction-dopenation-twin-revolution-ghanaian-music/
http://eboxafrica.com/2018/02/26/get-familiar-dopenation/
2.Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.
Link: http://www.pulse.com.gh/entertainment/music/2017-ghana-music-honours-vvip-r2bees-lead-nominees-list-with-4-see-complete-list-id6260686.html
1adp0. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read WP:BLP1E and WP:BIO1E for further clarifications)
- They have produced for notable musicians; including Shatta Wale, E.L, Ebony Reigns, Pappy Kojo, Joey B, Flowking Stone, etc.
Links:
http://www.ghanamotion.com/flowking-stone-away-bus-prod-by-b2/
http://www.ghanamotion.com/tinny-bugatti-ft-zeal-prod-b2/
http://www.ghanamotion.com/pappy-kojo-nana-ama/
http://www.ghanamotion.com/shatta-wale-x-pope-skinny-shut-up-prod-by-b2/
http://www.ghanamotion.com/joey-b-wow-ft-e-l-prod-by-b2/
- Keep Hello, There has been no comment on the said article since it was tagged for deletion. I have proven the article meets WP:NMUSIC and thus be considered for inclusion on Wikipedia.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwamevaughan (talk • contribs) 16:44, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep Most of what I've seen above indicates the notability of B2, and not the notability of Twist, but as a group, judging notability is particularily difficult. The most probable claim for notability, in my view, is that the group seems to have been picked up by a couple websites as indicated by Kwamevaughan. I have my doubts on the reliability of those sources, and whether or not they are, or are based on, promotional material. What I'd recommend here, would be to move the article on B2, and mention Dopenation as part of that article. Acebulf (talk) 00:19, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 06:09, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I believe with the nomination of the group in Ghana’s biggest award, (VGMA) it proves how notable the group is and thus should be included in Wiki. Kwamevaughan (talk) 19:08, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes 14:12, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as a number of reliable sources have been found for the ensemble as detailed above so that WP:GNG is passed. Kwamevaughan (talk) 15:01, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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