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The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 01:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dustin Lee Hiles[edit]

This person does not meet the nobility requirements for wikipedia. An extensive search has turned up no independent references. Nrswanson (talk) 12:21, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been notified to WikiProject Canadian music and WikiProject Opera - Voceditenore (talk) 16:02, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Why didn't you speedy him? Anyway, only 60 results came up on google when searched. Definitely WP:NN Dengero (talk) 12:27, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Because the entry makes the claim he performed in several operas, something that doesn't neccesarily have to be recorded in electrons. I'd check newspaper sources, before forming an opinion. The web sources (mainly facebook) are not independent. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:07, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I checked some of the cast lists at the opera house websites and he wasn't listed. I think he was probably just in the opera chorus.Nrswanson (talk) 13:38, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It's pretty obvious the 'resume' is padded, otherwise he would have specified the roles sung. I've checked the cast lists for the performances listed in the article and there's no mention of him. If he was in them at all he was in the chorus. Note that virtually all the productions mentioned are with semi-professional companies, youth programs, opera workshops, or student productions. Filumena at the Banff Centre is just one example. When I edited the article to remove the hype, I edited out the statement: "At twenty years old, Dustin has been hailed as "Canada's next great opera star" by Canadian Idol judge, Sass Jordan" If he's only twenty years old and already singing leading roles with leading companies, and widely considered to be "Canada's next great opera star" he'd be in the press somewhere, and these are all I found [1] [2]. I've searched under both Dustin Hiles and Dustin Lee Hiles both with and without quotes and Google News all dates. I also have access to specialist opera publications - nothing. Incidentally there is no mention of him on the Canadian Idol web site either. If he was in it, it must have been a local heat. I also left this message on the creator's talk page [3], alerting him/her to the problems with the article but nothing has been done to address the issues. I wish Hiles well in his chosen career, but he doesn't really have one yet, and certainly not a notable one.Voceditenore (talk) 14:59, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete based on Voceditenore's excellent research. - Mgm|^(talk) 15:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for now. Probably someday when he has made his profesional debut (leading role), the article starter can recreate again. Btw, his voice is not bad, tho. - Jay (talk) 17:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete there is nothing more to say than Voceditenore allready said. abf /talk to me/ 18:15, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - For all reasons listed above BritishWatcher (talk) 18:53, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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