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The result was delete. Davewild (talk) 17:23, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Emeka Darlington[edit]
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Player, fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG.
In the previous AfD, there was suggestion that sources indicated full professionalism in the Bangladesh top league. However, additional discussion took place here and no consensus was reached.
Bangladesh remains absent from the WP:FPL listing, so the original concerns still stand. Fenix down (talk) 12:03, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 17:59, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - As nominator of the original AfD. As is spelled out in the nomination, my concerns from a year ago still stand. The claim that he has played in a fully professional league remains unverified, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT, and he has still not received significant coverage, meaning the article still fails WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:06, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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- Please support that claim with reliable sources. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
* Keep, Reason and Sources : Run By Bangladesh Football Federation with codified rules involving transaction, doping etc. "The Bangladesh Football Federation (Bengali: বাংলাদেশ ফুটবল ফেডারেশন) is the governing body of football in Bangladesh, controlling the Bangladesh national football team. It was founded in 1972, and has been a member of FIFA and the Asian Football Confederation since 1974." Source: History BFF BANGLADESH FOOTBALL FEDERATION Bangladesh Premier League (football) matches take place in National Stadiums, have foreign coaches. In the news:"Bangladesh Football Federation (BFF), in its bid to increase the number of matches in the professional football league, has proposed a third phase for the Bangladesh Premier League in the upcoming season." and "The recommendations of the BFF’s Emergency Committee will be passed on to the Professional League Committee and if it is approved there, it will be sent to the executive committee to make it a rule." Members of the national team participate in the League including the captain of the National Team. 70000$ sponsorship deal. Is placed in the Bangladesh National league category by FIFA. Clubs have played in the International Club Matches such as the AFC Cup.source Described in the news as "professional football league" and "country's top league" with underperforming clubs facing demotions. Source Has 11 teams and about 25000$ to each club as as appearance fee.SourceVinegarymass911 (talk) 13:36, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Not really sure what is attempting to be achieved here, none of the sources presented above add any weight to the notion of a "fully" professional league:
- Source 1 - Can't see anything in the regulations regaridng full professionalism,nothing in section four of the regulations makes any comment about a minimum salary for example.
- Source 2 - Makes no mention of professioanlism at all, therefore not relevant to this discussion.
- Source 3 - This is jusy the national associations FIFA page. Makes no mention of professionalism at all, therefore not relevant to this discussion.
- Source 4 - The presence of foreign coaches does not indicate full professionalism and there is no reason why it should. Makes no mention of professionalism at all, therefore not relevant to this discussion.
- Source 5 - Mentions professionalism, and no one here on in earlier conversations is doubting there is at least a degree of professionalism, but nothing to support fullprofessionalism. Comments such as After plenty of discussion, the BFF stuck to its previous plans of keeping the BPL a ten team affair – rejecting discussion over the last few days to increase the number to 14. The decision was based largely on the assessment that 14 teams would not be able to maintain the basic standard, due to a scarcity of quality players suggest the league is not fully pro as a league which was would be more likely to attract players of sufficient quality.
- Sourcre 6 - A routine match report. Makes no mention of professionalism at all, therefore not relevant to this discussion.
- Source 7 - Unclear how a $70000 sponsorship deal is meant to confirm full professionalism for the league. Almost every countries' top league will have some level of sponsorship and some cash prize available which makes them professional to a degree. This does not mean they are fully professional.
- Source 8 - This is just the league's page on FIFA's website. Makes no mention of professionalism at all, therefore not relevant to this discussion. All leagues, regardless of their level of professionalism have these pages.
- Source 9 - Makes no mention of professionalism at all, therefore not relevant to this discussion. There is no "full professionalism" requirement of the AFC Cup.
- Source 10 - Makes no mention of professioanlism at all, therefore not relevant to this discussion. Promotion and relegation exists at all levels of football, amateur or professional.
- Source 11 - Mentions payment of sponsorship money to clubs, but makes no mention of professionalism at all, therefore not relevant to this discussion. Unclear how such a small payment could support the whole of a playing squad (excluding non-playing staff). Fenix down (talk) 08:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete The Bangladesh Premier League is not listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. A single AfD is not the place to discuss inclusion of any league, that should be done at the project page. In the meanwhile, this player fails WP:NFOOTY, and coverage is rather WP:ROUTINE (match reports with trivial mentions), so he fails also WP:GNG. In case the Bangladesh Premier League is added to the list of FPL, the article may be re-created, but in the meanwhile we should abide by the guideline. Guidelines are intended to save time and effort, and represent current consensus. It's not helpful to try to squeeze one's favorite subject's into Wikipedia by refusing to accept the guidelines and trying to bury one's opponents under WP:WALLS. Kraxler (talk) 15:35, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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