The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete the mean robots. Gwen Gale (talk) 20:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Enemy robots in Sonic the Hedgehog (series)[edit]

Game guide, non-notable. There is no encyclopedic reason to list this many enemies. Also, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate list of information. DurinsBane87 (talk) 16:21, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Actually there's too much info to be merged, so I'll just stick it in as a main article..Fairfieldfencer FFF 16:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game related deletions. MrKIA11 (talk) 20:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At the very least the name should be changed if kept. Using (series) in the article implies that there are two or more articles with the title Enemy robots in Sonic the Hedgehog which is not the case here. --76.66.186.203 (talk) 04:21, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Separate the in-game robots from the cartoon/comic robots. There's no reason to lump so many robots together.Roman619 (talk) 07:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or Delete. Agreeing with WP:IINFO. ZappyGun (talk) 20:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, it's too long to merge anywhere. It's an acceptable spinout of Sonic the Hedgehog (series). And Wikipedia is not paper. Does this article tell players how to beat these robots? No? Then it's not a game guide. --Pixelface (talk) 08:11, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is also not an indiscrimate collection of information. Also note that Gameguide info isn't exclusive to what-to-do; it is inclusive to any information not useful to anyone who has not or will not play the game. Zappy loves to hear your comments on what he has done for Wikipedia. 13:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this article turns Wikipedia into an indiscriminate collection of information. And this isn't a guide to a game, so it's not a game guide. This list doesn't appear to contain "strategy guide material" like the ((gameguide)) template says. If someone has not played any games in this series, this article gives them further information about the series. I really don't see how you can say this information is not useful to people who have never played the games. If someone has played the games, they probably already know most of this stuff. And you and the nominator seem to have ignored that this list also contains information on comic book characters. --Pixelface (talk) 07:37, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Trim and merge that which can be verified through reliable sources to List of characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (games). Failing that, delete per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Jakew (talk) 11:11, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strong delete: Violates WP:GAMETRIVIA. The enemy robots in Sonic the Hedgehog are not themselves notable by wikipedia standards, and cannot survive as an article of their own. WP:PLOT which states that we give concise overviews of a fictional world rather than going into comprehensive detail. Also violates WP:GAMEGUIDE, which is not just a guideline prohibiting "how to" gameguide information. To the extent that these robots are characters in the game, they might be worth summarizing and merging to list of characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (games). Randomran (talk) 15:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- How is Enemy robots in Sonic the Hedgehog (series) a "gameguide" but List of characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (games) not a "gameguide"? --Pixelface (talk) 01:51, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - As a subject, does not pass WP:Notability, and the vast bulk of material appears to be WP:Original research Curious example: They were likely used as Sonic Team wanted the game to be more "realistic" - if that could actually be attributed, it would switch from OR to being the kind of material needed per WP:WAF. Unfortunately the article largely has an in-universe context. Marasmusine (talk) 17:45, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fabrictramp | talk to me 16:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Wikipedia is not game guide. This article is suitable in some wikia, not here. Zero Kitsune (talk) 19:09, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or trim. I actually like this, but concise it ain't. If it could be cut down to certain 'iconic' robots that would be one thing, but I'm not sure many/any of them are. - Vianello (talk) 21:22, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, vote changed, see below: As much as I would like to merge some of this content, none of it seems very notable, and anything that is notable is already in the existing articles. Many of these are extremely minor "characters", and I use that word very loosely. --Nick Penguin_(contribs) 00:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Other characters in Sonic the Hedgehog (games) has some links at the top of the page, and it looks like some other Sonic character related lists could be cleaned up too. --NickPenguin_(contribs) 00:24, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- On second thought, Badniks redirects here. Instead of deleting, this article (and the other character related articles) should be brought to the attention of the relevant wikiprojects, and merge together to present a more concise description of the subject. --Nick Penguin_(contribs) 02:29, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no notability asserted for the subject. Fails WP:NOT#INFO, WP:NOR, WP:NOT#GUIDE, WP:FICT. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 01:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep or merge and redirect without deletion as it concerns verifiable elements of one of the all time most notable video game series. Easily passes all relevant guidelines and policies. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 02:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOT#INFO, WP:NOR, WP:NOT#GUIDE, WP:FICT or smerge. Too much original research, and too much of a game guide, too few reliable and independent sources. Edison (talk) 19:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - NO assertion of notability through reliable sources. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 00:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.