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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:03, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fahmid-ur-Rahman[edit]

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Non notable writer. Fails every criteria listed on WP:AUTHOR, WP:GNG. Doesn't qualify for WP:ANYBIO also. None of author books is notable. All references listed in the article are primary or fails WP:RS. I did a web search but didn't found anything. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 19:40, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:42, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:42, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: As author-editor of the proposed article-for-deletion, I absolutely agree that all sources given in the article are primary; there is a dearth of published secondary sources. However, the fact that the author has published several books as listed in the bibliography is surely indicative of WP:GNG, and impetus for further research. --~Mohammad Hossain~ 21:37, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, GNG require "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" and publishing several books doesn’t pass GNG. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 23:46, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GNG looks a little less relevant here than WP:NAUTHOR. To show an WP:NAUTHOR pass, though, you'd generally need to find several reviews of the subject's books. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 11:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the observation regarding WP:NAUTHOR. I can look up for reviews on the subject of the said author's books.--~Mohammad Hossain~ 13:51, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have added two reviews and a link to a recent article of the writer in a popular journal, all in Bangla I am afraid, which list some biographical details, including names of some works. --~Mohammad Hossain~ 12:54, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will work on adding some more content in the page from some of the sources listed.--~Mohammad Hossain~ 12:56, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adding non-notable &/or non reliable sources like Punorpath.com, shoncharon.com, Pathchokro.com doesn't prove notability. You need source like prothom alo, daily star etc. also note one line, mention from those site won't consider notable. Whatever you consider WP:AUTHOR or WP:GNG, subject should be fulfill the basic criteria (received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources ... ... and independent of the subject) to be notable. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 20:47, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. I have not found any sources on the author from either of the newspapers you mention, Prothom Alo or Daily Star. Punorpath is a hardcopy popular journal with printed hard copies. The website link was given for more accessible reference. I will add further updates on secondary source material if and when I find them.--~Mohammad Hossain~ 17:04, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I was unable to find any reliable secondary sources that cover the subject significantly. Perhaps there are sources in Bangla? If so, I'm happy to review and re-consider my suggestion. Missvain (talk) 00:01, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Missvain:Having read his work, I was surprised that there is such a lack of coverage. The subject may have coverage in hard to come by print material, which is unavailable online. Most of his books were published in Bangladesh at a time when there is increasing government surveillance of the digital domain in Bangladesh, which may partially explain why such secondary material does not exist; he is critical of the established historiography on the region. Perhaps, and hopefully so, we shall not be having such a conversation on notability in a few years time. Thanks for your helpful feedback and valuable observation. Much love! --~Mohammad Hossain~ 05:59, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:GNG, WP:AUTHOR and WP:ACADEMIC.S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 04:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 15:49, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Inadequately sourced to demonstrate notability and Mohammad Hossain's admission that better sourcing does not exist seals it. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:54, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:35, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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